Poll: Is Iran A Natural Ally In The Fight Against Wahhabi Terror?

I hope you're right, but listening to your President the other day I doubt you are...

 

He's a goof. Mattis will arrest him before he can do something crazy. Pence, Tillerson, McMaster, and Flynn will support Mattis. They will take Trump's phone and lock him in the bathroom until the danger passes.

 

Do you have any idea what Iran has done to Israel and the U.S.?

Bombing the Marines barracks in Beirut in 1983 with about 250 dead (killed in their sleep) is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

Depraved 'news' presenter sets up Neocon terrorist mastermind by stating that Iran is looking to buy nuclear weapons from North Korea.

What kind of world are we living in where these savages get to lie like this in front of millions of people in order to achieve their common goal of the murder of millions of innocent Iranians.... I despair...

 

They learned from Trump, maxflinn.

 

You're thinking of the old Iran when they overthrew a brutal US placed tyrant. If you were to listen to the speech to the UN posted by "maxflinn", you would be amazed. (yes, I know 23 minutes seems like a long time in Forum-World).

As I noted earlier, the only "terrorism" Iran is supporting is Hezbollah which is opposing US - Israel supported ISIS / Syrian rebels.

Meanwhile:
"Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/

AND, the US economy is suffering while the rest of the world benefits from trade with Iran:

"Foreign Investors Flock to Iran as U.S. Firms Watch on the Sidelines"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/foreig...s-u-s-firms-watch-on-the-sidelines-1490607002

EXCERPT "After years shunning Iran, Western businesses are bursting through the country’s doors—but U.S. companies are noticeably absent."CONTINUED

 

Grau, none of that matters.

Overrun Israel, and the ME disappears.

 

I can't think of any other country that pays people to post propaganda(1) for their country or so badly needs to.
Meanwhile, be careful to recognize that Hasbara Trolls also infect Wikipedia(2) and are lost without their "Hasbara Handbook"(3)



(1) “Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook”

https://electronicintifada.net/blog...ts-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook”

EXCERPT “The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.

NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”

The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.

This active recruitment of Israeli students is part of Israel’s orchestrated effort to suppress the Palestinian solidarity movement under the guise of combating “delegitimization” of Israel and anti-Semitism.”CONTINUED


(2) "Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

EXCERPT "Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in "Zionist editing" for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site."CONTINUED


(3) "The Israel Project’s Secret Hasbara Handbook Exposed"
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2009/07/10/the-israel-projects-secret-hasbara-handbook-exposed/

EXCERPT Douglas Bloomfield and Newsweek have done pretty close to that against the Israel lobby. Specifically, they’ve exposed a secret hasbara handbook written for The Israel Project by star Republican marketer, Frank Luntz. The oddly-named Global Language Dictionary (pdf) is a veritable goldmine of arguments, strategy, tactics. At 116 pages, it’s not for the faint of heart. But anyone who wants to get inside the head of the Israel lobby must read this document.
The first thing we learn is that this passage, as with everything else printed in the handbook, is empty meaningless drivel. It’s a perfect example of political three-card monty in which there appears to be a card which isn’t there at all. It’s all a sham. There is no substance. The rhetoric here is even worse than that offered by spokespeople like Mark Regev on behalf of the Israeli government."CONTINUED

 

Then, Grau, if all that ^^^ is so, ignore it.

 

You do know that the bombing of the Marine Barracks was retaliation for the Sabra and Shatilla massacres.

 

Tough. Overrun Israel and the ME disappears.

 

Iran hasn't attacked anyone in over 300 years. Neither Iran, Hezbollah, nor any other country/entity has any intention of overrunning Israel however the reverse is not necessarily true as Israel prepares to invade S. Lebanon in keeping with its Oded Yinon Plan(1) to create a "Greater Israel" and balkanized Syria & Iraq.

M.E. conflicts will remain at the proxy war level with Iran's proxies (Hezbollah) fighting Israel's proxy (ISIS & the Syrian Rebels.
Meanwhile the popular Assad(2) remains in power & Israel's proxies are losing to him, the Russians & Hezbollah(3)

Thanks


(1) “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East"
The Infamous "Oded Yinon Plan".

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

EXCERPT “The latter consists in weakening and eventually fracturing neighboring Arab states as part of an Israeli expansionist project.

“Greater Israel” consists in an area extending from the Nile Valley to the Euphrates. According to Stephen Lendman, “A near-century ago, the World Zionist Organization’s plan for a Jewish state included:

• historic Palestine;

• South Lebanon up to Sidon and the Litani River;

• Syria’s Golan Heights, Hauran Plain and Deraa; and

• control of the Hijaz Railway from Deraa to Amman, Jordan as well as the Gulf of Aqaba.

Some Zionists wanted more – land from the Nile in the West to the Euphrates in the East, comprising Palestine, Lebanon, Western Syria and Southern Turkey.”CONTINUED


(2) “The Inconvenient Truth: Bashar al Assad’s Popularity Confounds NATO Propagandists”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-in...pularity-confounds-nato-propagandists/5532844


(3)"Syrian rebels are losing Aleppo and perhaps also the war"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6591104bb19_story.html?utm_term=.6a4be5fe2437

EXCERPT "The loss of Aleppo, Syria’s largest city and the most significant urban center to fall, at least partially, under rebel control, would represent a potentially decisive blow to the nearly five-year-old rebellion against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The intervention by the Russian air force, ostensibly intended to battle the Islamic State, has mostly targeted moderate rebels, tilting the military balance in favor of Assad and enabling the government’s spurt of gains in recent weeks."CONTINUED

 

Iran is safe as long as it does not engage Israel in war.

 

Are you sure?
Israel started using False Flag Ops to dupe the US into attacking other countries starting with the Lavon Affair in the 1950s, additionally, the US government is infested with Zionist pro War politicians, "Think Tanks" & bureaucrats

"Netanyahu Is Meeting Trump To Push For War With Iran"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/netanyahu-trump-war-with-iran_us_59bfc6e6e4b086432b089840

EXCERPT "Today, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will meet with Donald Trump at the White House and push the U.S. to withdraw from the nuclear accord with Iran.

…both the IAEA and the U.S. intelligence services have consistently reported that Tehran is living up to its obligations),"CONTINUED


Israel's near omnipotent lobbies in DC have dragged / duped the US into a war for Israel before:

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

AND:

"Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED

 

Of course I am sure. As long as Iran does not engage in helping the Arabs try to overrun Israel, Iran is safe.

 

Please don't overlook the building up of that Russian Naval Base at Tartus and their recent treaty with Syria:

"How Russia Is Turning Syria into a Major Naval Base for Nuclear Warships (and Israel Is Worried)"
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...syria-major-naval-base-nuclear-warships-19813

EXCERPT "The specification allowing nuclear-powered warships means that Russia wants to be able to base in Syria large surface ships, namely Kirov-class nuclear-powered battle cruisers, as well as nuclear submarines.

In addition, the treaty allows “Russia is allowed to bring in and out any kind of ‘weaponry, ammunition, devices and materials’ to provide security for the facility staff, crew, and their families throughout the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic ‘without any duties or levies,’” according to RT.

The Tartus deal is significant on several levels. For starters, the explicit mention of Tartus servicing nuclear-powered ships suggests that Russia may operate its biggest ships in the eastern Mediterranean, such as the nuclear battle cruiser Peter the Great. At the least, it indicates that nuclear submarines could be based at Tartus."CONTINUED

 

I would not go as far as to say that Iran may never pose a threat to the West, but their sponsorship of terrorism is greatly exaggerated.

In fact, none of the major terrorist attacks in the West can be traced to Iran.

One thing is certain, though.

If the Clown Prince decides to back out of the multilateral Iran deal, Iran will resume development of nuclear weapons, and this time they won't quit until they have them.

Trump can't handle the Hermit Kingdom. Just imagine him dealing with a nuclear Iran.

 

I'll bow you your knowledge of the subject. But I has always believed the KSA was still a major source for the sort of low sulphur oil needed for gasoline.

 

The history of Arabia means nothing.

If it wants to survive, it wants to make sure that Israel survives.

 

Tartus is tiny.. I think its four berths.. and the Russians have been there since 1971. Its not important.

 

It would be like Israel to attack Saudi Arabia for no reason.

Do you expect KSA to fight for Israel?

Have you read Martin Van Cleveld? He says Israel is prepared t nuke several European capitals if they are attacked by anyone..

 

It would be like Israel to attack Saudi Arabia for no reason.

Do you expect KSA to fight for Israel?

Have you read Martin Van Cleveld? He says Israel is prepared t nuke several European capitals if they are attacked by anyone..

 

Martin is crazy. Simply stop the terror against Israel, guarantee its existence, and all will quiet down.

 

He' not the least bit crazy.. He's Israel's foremost military historian... and brave enough to tell the truth about the West Bank not serving as any sort of defense for Israel.. If someone shoots a missile is will cross in 15 seconds.. It won't be foot soldiers.

Israel just wants the rest of the land.. They have refused peace and spit in the eye of every US president since Eisenhower... excuse me... since Truman.

 

Not true at all. Now the Israelis SHOULD keep all land west of Jordan. If the Arabs overrun Israel, they will nuke the entire ME, Arabia to Iran.