Mass Shooting in Vegas

Ah. If he modified them to be truly full-auto then they are indeed illegal. Do you have a credible source for this information, or is it speculation? My point has been: If it's just speculation, it's premature to be calling these illegal.

 

According to his brother he was not a gun nut. HE had no known history of owning or using guns and no military background.

the key word in your stupid statement is SINGLE.

Explain your self with some logic. How is ANYONE else responsible?

 

only 1 FFL is required, and that is the one on the receiving end of the transaction. You can sell your firearm to someone out of state, but you must ship it to an FFL in that persons home state. You do not have to ship it FROM a FFL in your state.

 

what makes you think he was left, his brother said he did not think this was over politics, race or religion as his brother was not fanatical in any of those areas

I could say the only mass shooter we have had on this board was a republican, does that mean all republicans here bad... of course not..... these people are crazy regardless of party and only represent themselves

 

I saw it on Fox News a while ago. Let me see if I can find the link. It was on Dana Perrino's show earlier today. Something about him accessing a machine shop to do what he did.

I never said the guns he had were illegal.

 

The gun laws did not change in the USA, but there is more killing now.
Why?
The culture has changed, Hollywood promotes the culture of violence.
To reduce the killing rate, Americans have to control their culture and school system, so that there are not so many crazy people that can kill others with cars, knives, guns, etc.

 

I don't need to please you, I posted actual side by side firings of machine guns. Those videos confirmed I am correct. The gun used by the LV killer fired at maybe 500 rounds per minute.

 

no license is required to own a full auto, or any other class III weapon. You simply pay a $200 tax stamp, and fill out a form 4. If you can legally own a handgun, you can legally own a class III weapon. No special license required. Only exception is for full autos manufactured after 1986. You need to be a class III dealer, or a manufacturer to own one (outside of law enforcement or military)

 

Clean police record but probably another Bernie supporter.

 

Here's more:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...athy-for-vegas-vics-probably-republicans.html

CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'
By Brian Flood, Fox News
CBS has parted ways with one of the company’s top lawyers after she said she is “not even sympathetic” to victims of the Las Vegas shooting because “country music fans often are Republican,” when discussing the tragic mass shooting that occurred in Las Vegas late Sunday night.
“This individual, who was with us for approximately one year, violated the standards of our company and is no longer an employee of CBS. Her views as expressed on social media are deeply unacceptable to all of us at CBS. Our hearts go out to the victims in Las Vegas and their families,” a CBS spokeswoman told Fox News.

Hayley Geftman-Gold, the network's now-former vice president and senior counsel, took to Facebook after a gunman opened fire at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas, killing at least 58 people and sending more than 500 others to hospitals.

“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs [sic] will ever do the right thing,” Geftman-Gold wrote in a now-deleted message that was first reported and captured by The Daily Caller.

Geftman-Gold continued: “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc [sic] country music fans often are Republican gun toters [sic].”

Brandon Morse ✔@TheBrandonMorse
A @CBS legal exec thought the Las Vegas victims had it coming.
9:12 AM - Oct 2, 2017
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Geftman-Gold is presumably referring to Sandy Hook, which occurred in Newtown, Conn. back in 2012. A 20-year-old gunman, Adam Lanza, killed 20 children and six adults during the tragic event that sparked intense political debates regarding gun control.

Geftman-Gold did not work directly with the network’s news division. According to her LinkedIn bio, Geftman-Gold worked at CBS since September 2016 and graduated from the prestigious Columbia University law school in 2000.

 

He said his brother was "not an avid gun guy". He said he didn't know his brother had that kind of weaponry. I didn't hear any interviews with him saying he had no history of owning guns. He apparently had owned guns for quite some time.

 

Absolutely.

And among the victims, there was certainly gun lovers.

Their family are surely relieved that there were killed by an object they loved.

 

An AK-47 is completely capable of this. There is a cell phone video of the muzzle flashes. This was a light weapon like an AR, or an AK, or possibly something like a M249.

A .50, by contrast, would have made much larger muzzle flashes, and would have been cracking concrete and pavement. There would not have been nearly as many gunshot "woundings", and would have been many more deaths.

 

gun laws only apply to people that follow the laws, so not much we can do there as people that follow the law are not the problem

it was a crime to modify his gun, he obviously did not follow the law

 

Me too. Sounds like something bigger with more capacity.

 

Here's more:

 

I knew that this was going to get down in the cesspool of political crap throwing. I would not discount him being a liberal but usually liberals are afraid of guns and do not understand guns so for him to have that many just does not compute. I am sure there are Gaboomkas here who are hoping that he is a hillary or bernie supporter so that they can tie him to Chicago violence and then to Obama.

 

If you want me to blame you, let me know and I will accommodate you instantly.

 

I agree with him that the utilitarian argument is satiating, but the fixation on scary assault weapons is an emotional deviation from utilitarian principle.

It doesn't matter if 50 people commit 50 homicides or if 1 person commits 50 homicides. Not to those people anyway. The vast majority of gun homicides are committed with handguns.

Magazine capacity and fire rate are overrated in terms of the actual gun homicide rate. Concealability is much more desirable and useful to criminals, because theft and personal disputes are much more common motives than random mass murder.

This is why NFA licensed weapons have such a ridiculously low use rate in homicides. Their prohibition doesn't even attack the core of the problem.

 

Holy crap! If the woman the pink NASA man was standing next to in the hipster hat was Paddock's companion who recently left the country (I wonder why) then we have a match!

And we know why he specifically chose to rain bullets down on a gathering of country music fans...because they were likely to be Trump supporters!

And we have proof positive then that the sociopathic hatred of anti Trump people is not just sick but deadly to others.

 

Great.

Then anyone can become a mass shooter.

And it's an argument to make guns more accessible...

More logical for you now ?

Hum... difficult one.

The Second amendment and the gun culture in America ?

 

My dad was a strict Democrat loyalist voter. Dad had a lot of guns.

 

How much effort does it take to be so stupid?

 

Exellent argument!
The gun control will not reduce crime rates, it will only reduce the freedom of people and increase the despitism of the Establishment.

 

Yes, but we're also supposed to stay on topic so again: ""Why not just have an "argue back and forth endlessly" thread on guns???"""