This much is clear: The left values illegal immigrants over American citizens

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    please read your own link

    Under Senate interpretations of the Congressional Budget Act, the Senate can consider the three basic subjects of reconciliation — spending, revenues, and debt limit — in a single bill or multiple bills, but it can consider each of these three in only one bill per year (unless Congress passes a second budget resolution). Consequently, in the Senate there can be a maximum of three reconciliation bills in a year, one for each of the basic subjects of reconciliation.

    This rule is most significant if the first reconciliation bill that the Senate takes up affects both spending and revenues. Even if that bill is overwhelmingly devoted to only one of those subjects, no subsequent reconciliation bill can affect either revenues or spending because the first bill already addressed them.
     
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    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

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    So who in the communist party USA wants all this third world immigration, and to what end ?

    Who are these people, other that Chuckie Schumer ?
     
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    You make too much sense. You are therefore banished to the past. ;-)
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So who in the fascist party of the USA want's only white immigration if any, other than trump?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does anyone spouting their characterization of legal immigrants even have a clue what the current VETTING system covers? What obligations landed immigrants have, including the financial ones?

    Nope I didn't think so.
     
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    sure they do.
     
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    Why don't you provide a public service and educate them?
     
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    Is that the new parable of the Loaves and fishes?
     
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    Actually the polls being used don't even mention DACA.

    Also those using the polls like Nancy Pelosi aren't being honest and not mentioning what were the actual questions that were asked during the polling.

    Then there's the huge lie that the Democrats keep telling that the dreamers are children. Just another lie from the left.

    Only .5% (1/2 of 1 %) of the illegal alien dreamers are children or are under the age of 16. But I listen to Chuck Shumer again this morning calling the illegal alien dreamers as children..

    I suppose the low information eat up Democrat lies.

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    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...out-unauthorized-immigrants-enrolled-in-daca/
     
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    Here's a summary of the entire current policy:

    https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/how-united-states-immigration-system-works

    Here's how to figure out if you qualify BEFORE application submission.

    https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/Citizenship & Naturalization Based Resources/A Guide to Naturalization/PDFs/M-480.pdf

    Both sites offer all the facts one requires to formulate an informed opinion. It'll only take an hour or so to become conversant with the basic outlines and facts. Seems a cheap price for your valuable opinion, no?

    And a quick perusal of the various forms that are required quickly uncovers the fact that tens of millions of americans would not qualify to immigrate to america if they handn't been born there in the first place. What's the "cost" to taxpayers of their citizenship?
     
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    LM, your main error is that you think the Alt Right neo-fascists are the American party USA.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Huge lie? Were they children when they arrived illegally? Are they guilty of the crimes of their parents? THAT is a dispicable lie you seem to be propagating. Who knew children who grow up in america aren't actually american in every way except a piece of paper.
     
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    because todays cons were yesteryears dems. Dems today are enemies to our constitution. There stance on allowing illegal aliens to free run our nation and thumb their noses at our constitutional law pretty much sums up these sniveling filthy little smarmy smug traitors. We ought to begin executing traitors who wage war on our constitution.
     
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    do you support stopping illegals from entering the U.S.A. or not?
     
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    Bernie is pretty much a socialist, but even though I never agreed with his solutions, he did always vote with us against the stuff. Well, he often voted the same as Ron, so that's what I mean by us.
     
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    Hmm. The corporate loving, "profit before people", inclinations of the R's have been noted. But you are talking about the Alt-Right ?

    This is a rather amorphous term. Can you clarify ?
     
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    The Alt Right is far more than "group of outspoken young conservatives, who have a wide range of views".

    The Alt Right is a combination of white ethno state enthusiasts, racialists, nativists, uber nationalists, who are violently anti democracy.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you start with people who think like you, I'm all for it. I think that would solve the problem expeditiously and efficiently. Seig baby Seig.
     
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    essentially the scum of the earth.
     
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    you mean people who support the constitution? Seig? Thats your call, being against the U.S. constitution and all.
     
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    No I mean fascist idiots who think that other americans who don't think like they do deserve to be executed. That kinda Seig.

    And against the US constitution? If you were a muslim you'd sound EXACTLY like an ISIS member talking about the qu'ran and its teachings. Perversion wrapped up in a cloak of false patriotism with your position. Perversion wrapped up in a cloak of false piety in theirs.
     
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    Americans dont violate our constitution. Ill ask again do you support illegals violating our constitution or not?
     
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    Yeah, this modern era is a bitch.
     
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    Ironic you just exhorted execution of fellow americans for their opinions on immigration and you whine about others violating the constitution.

    Too bad you have no clue what the damn thing says in the first place, just like ISIS members have no clue what Islam is really all about.

    Perversion of principles wrapped up in a cloak of false patriothood. Works great with both the like- and weak-minded hateful fascists and the other radical right wing fringes (not to mention fanatics of all other political leanings).

    I don't support anyone violating the constitution. Especially not beirsgarten constitutional lawyers like you.
     
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    More and more Schumer and the democrats are looking like fools over this because they are causing the unneeded government shut down.
     

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