This much is clear: The left values illegal immigrants over American citizens

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  1. Pred

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    Was watching VICE news during an immigration segment and they interviewed an illegal who was arrested. Over 15 years he was here. STILL couldn't speak English. Obviously no interest in assimilating. What a winner. We need more of those.
     
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    The title of this thread is absolutely corrrect.
     
  3. Lesh

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    How does anyone who claims to be an FDR progressive run cover for Trump and sound so much like a modern day right wing Republican.

    I call BS.
     
  4. Lesh

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    Which has absolutely nothing to do with DACA
     
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    Unfortunately the GOP DOES focus on one group...the rich
     
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    LOL, which page on the worn out dem playbook is that on?
     
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    Sort of. But It is has to do with the parents who brought them over. It’s all related. Illegals not embracing this country. They just embrace the stuff. If you live here for decades and can’t bother to learn the language you have no investment here. You just don’t care.

    I don’t know where you live Lesh but I live around lots of immigrants and plenty of illegals. It’s very easy to see which ones want to be Americans and which ones just want the handouts. When you see teens speaking Spanish in public instead of English it speaks volumes. These are the dreamers or legitimate citizens. If you’re more comfortable speaking Spanish over English in public, what else can you say.
     
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    I would rather see leaders focus on the American rich than focus on the illegal immigrants.
     
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    You are making statements you cannot support. Tis what is.
     
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    You are entitled to all of your opinions, but they mean nothing if you can't support them, which you don't.
     
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    Clearly you have not clue what an FDR democrat believed in, once upon a time. We would never support slave labor globalism, because we represented working americans and the poor. What did clinton sign in regards to welfare reform? What did he do to insure we became deindustrialized, a low wage service sector, welfare drawing economy. We have believed in single payer since at least since truman. We would have already removed the caps on SSI. We would have controlled the damned borders due to what it does to working people's wages, and loss of jobs in fields like construction. I know construction, and have seen what illegal labor has done, as well as what it has done in factories, like meat packing. And you wonder why I would support SOME of what trump ran on, which was some of the same as what a real FDR kinda guy, Sanders, ran on? SO, sir, I call bullsh*t on you and your crowd, as I see nothing but corporate/banking democrats who also perhaps want to make it criminal if one does not use one of the 78 new gender personal pronouns.

    The only reason I ever defend trump is because of the utter idiocy I see coming from you guys. The lack of rationality driven by pure emotions, while your party does not have jack sh*t to offer working americans, the very people you once defended, supported and represented. I don't see your crowd doing this, in fact, quite the contrary. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, but you are not. So, again, I call bullcrap. And I wish I could really tell you what I think of you, and your kind, but I might get banned. And then who would call you out? For being sellouts?

    And your crowd are now war mongers, and agree with the GOP on taking away rights and a right to privacy. I do not see democrats, I see treasonous people against working people. I remember when democrats were not so trusting of our CIA. lol Your group is as plastic as a cheap slave labor made picnic spoon. Faux liberals, faux progressives who offer nothing to the working and middle class americans, unless of course, you are upper middle class, who along with our elites, are the only people your party really represents.
     
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    What would the Framers say about our dems who refuse to complete a budget for the country because they side 100% with illegal foreigners. Now you know why I changed from a dem to a repub after what I witnessed with the Carter agenda. Those who support the democratic party need to ask themselves if they truly support that party's agenda. Forget the propaganda put out by the MSM. Research for yourself and don't let anyone think for you. If you support the dems agenda that is certainly your choice, but make sure you truly understand the agenda of each party.
     
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    I'm going to smoke weed with an illegal immigrant and marry him and there's nothing you can do about it
     
  14. JakeStarkey

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    Anyone who supports Trump supports Russia.
     
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    Anyone who says that is clueless, and conditioned so much by propaganda, that the brain has died. IMO

    Anyways, I only support what trump ran on, since sanders ran on the same thing, when it comes to working people. I think trump duped his voters, but only time will tell. I do not support all that trump ran on, only these issues. FDR issues. Old democratic issues. Which of course you would never recognize, obviously. I see you and your party as a traitor to the principles and ideals of the FDR democrats. SO, IMO, you are more of a GOPher than a dem. A GOPher lite, when it comes to our working people.

    If the hispanic working people and the black working people, ever figure out what the dems have done in their identity politics, and they join in with ALL working people, including white working people, your party is toast, relegated to the dustbin of history, unless you have some people in that party who have some decency about them and return your party, to my party. The party of FDR, the party of the common man. Which obviously you must not consider yourself to be. Go on, run off and leave this FDR democrat alone. Go piss on someone else's leg.
     
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    I would rather support Russia than support the dems who place illegal foreigners ahead of U.S tax-paying citizens. The dems are practicing non-violent insurrection by shutting down our government in favor of illegal foreigners. What do you call that? Do you favor that? It's an issue that demands we take sides. Pick your side, amigo.
     
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    You offer a false comparison argument as justification for your preference to be a traitor than support a fellow citizen with a different political perspective.

    Yes choose sides. Seems your make america great again REQUIRES foreign support because the dems are opposed to trumpism.
    Er, isn't that one of the things currently under investigation by the FBI?
     
  18. Robert

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    If you check, a lot of the lawmakers are Mexicans. It had to happen over time.
     
  19. Jonsa

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    Yeah they aren't americans because true americans all support your dear leader and his odious attitudes and incompetence.
    BTW, there is not such thing as an "american" fascist. There are only fascists, all full of xenophobia, hatred, intolerance and ignorance.

    you have a screwy perspective of american values and freedoms. Gee wonder why?
     
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    Virtually all politicians are scum.

    They pander where the crucial voting blocs are or will be, and to their Deep State masters.

    Enter illegals.

    By the millions, I might add.
     
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    One Mind is not a national populist. He supports Trump and Russia only.
     
  22. Just A Man

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    To law abiding citizens the law is not political. You are supporting a party that suspends our military personnel pay because your party wants to protect illegal foreigners. I guess you have no loyalty to our country.
     
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  23. JakeStarkey

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    Criminal libel laws will have to be seriously strengthened when we can sane legislators and presidents in office again. The Alt Right will have to pay for their fake news agendas.
     
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    Nope no loyalty at all. My national loyalty is given to Canada, My ideological loyalty is to the American Values that America has championed throughout the world and are shared by most democratic countries on the planet. I have no partisan political loyalty at all although many of my perspectives could be described as classic liberalism. Which is far removed from the right's definition of the term liberal.


    It seems simple minds can only process such simplistic fallacious conflation that falsely claims opposition to issues that everyone agrees with (military funding) with the immigration issue and specifically with support of the right thing - DACA. Works for those without critical thinking skills.

    Want a CR - propose a clean one. Propose a clean DACA bill. No worries, no shutdown and america does the right thing.

    Naaah, that's way to hard. NOtice what's happening on the streets of America today?
     
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    There are no "criminal libel laws" in the USA, so what are you talking about?
     

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