Russia retaliates after pilot is killed in rebel-held Syria. (Comments on YouTube)

After the tragic incident with the Russian Su-25 attack aircraft in the Syrian Arab Republic, news of a downed military aircraft flew around the world. Leading Western news agencies: the Associated Press, FoxNews, DW, Euronews and many others, did not avoid this topic, however, all of them, as one described the event, in the worst possible frameworks of blackened propaganda



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Such dastardly hypocrisy is all the more disgusting, given that the terrorists attacking the attack aircraft did not hide their identity, but openly declared that they were members of the terrorist organization of An - Nusra (the Syrian branch of al - Qaeda). And besides that, they posted photos of the Russian pilot's things, from which it clearly follows that the Russian military was not only "destroyed after the catapult", but heroically died in an unequal battle with terrorists.



About how to behave those whom the West calls "rebels", after they have access to the body, it is not necessary to speak. Attention deserves only that the Russian pilot took an unequal battle, and using pistol, grenades, and other available means led him to the end. The photo clearly shows that one store of personal weapons is completely empty, the other two are consumed more than half. A soldier of the Russian Air Force entered into a fight and took the fight.

When it became clear that he was in full surroundings, and the militants came literally close, the soldier shouted: "This is for you from the guys!" and blew up with a grenade, wanting to take as many enemy lives as possible.

Video of the last seconds of the battle, the terrorists themselves laid out



Later, was launched with cruise missiles on terrorists. All persons will soon be identified and acquainted with the retaliation of Russian special forces, and personally the Sheikh of the organization, "Abdullah al-Mukhaisisni" (who visited the site of the downed Russian aircraft and sneered at the symbols of Russia), will not live long.
Experts of the Russian army, will kill everyone who was present at numerous photos and video of terrorists.

What do you think about it?

 

Any war is a big mess, I'm not sure "all persons will soon be identified and acquainted with the retaliation". I think it's not always possible.

 

I feel for Russia, losing their pilot but what they and Assad are doing in Syria is sick... Russia is turning a blind eye while Assad drops Chlorine gas on children and 55 people dead just yesterday... for one guy. Russia criticise America constantly for being self serving, but killing hundreds of people in a matter of days because terrorists shot down and killed ONE of their pilots... it's wrong...You avenge him with mass murder... there's no honour in this

 

Yeah, the guy winning the war decides, for no good reason, to drop chlorine on a bunch of kids. Uh-huh .... right.

A public relations move??

 

Russia's reaction whenever Assad uses chemical weapons

 

Russia .... Russia .... Russia

 

of course you love to think it's all about you bet you Russians masturbate when you say that ^^^....

....oh Russia..... yes... that's it... (out of breath panting) ....oh yes... Russia....Russia!!!

 

Was it good for you??

Actually, I was thinking of The Brady Bunch (Marcia, Marcia, Marcia) but run wild with it if you want.

 

I wouldn't know... only the superpowers get to screw an entire country

 

Russia helped to destroy Syrian chemical weapons. MD-weapons are not efficient for Assad side. They are good to put all those westerners who has got memory like a golden fish into this position... With one little change. There should be a flag somewhere on the top saying: "Russians did it!"

 

In 'barrel bombs' of course! But how could it have been Assad when the Syrian stockpile was confiscated and removed from the country 2 years ago. Maybe Al Nasra?

 

Shortly before his death, journalist Robert Parry addressed the facts of the Sarin attack on 4 April 2017, that was blamed on Assad and condemned around the world. Parry did what few media journalists could be bothered to do. He reviewed the annexe of of the UN Report on that incident:

My bolding
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/06/did-al-qaeda-dupe-trump-on-syrian-attack-2/

Moreover, extensive media speculation that Syria was responsible for that Sarin incident had already been convincingly debunked by Dr. Theordore Postol (HERE & HERE).

And an earlier Sarin attack blamed on Syria in 2013, Pulitzer prize winning journalist, Seymour Hersh, revealed that the Sarin attack was by Turkey, not Syria (HERE).

The question, therefore, is why should anyone believe the latest media finger pointing at Assad? Isn't it just more of the same blame-gaming aimed at justifying continued or expanded US involvement in Syria?

 

Did he tell you about the chemical weapons of Assad?

 

We will see. At least those terrorists who carried out mortar shelling of the Russian airfield in Syria were completely destroyed. All to one. http://www.interfax.ru/world/595210

 

I think it was not the “tragic incident” as you labeled it

The pilot was just a causality of war

 

Interesting stuff. "Why would Assad do it" is still the main doubt I face when these histories resurfaces.

 

I agree. It would be counter-productive. Makes no sense.

 

They said Milosevic was responsible invading Bosnia and Croatia.
They said Saddam had WMD's
Should I continue?

What happened after the bombings?
No WMD's
Milosevic was exonerated
Serbia was not sued for aggression on those countries.

And you people still believe the hype over "ooooooh bad dictators."
For Assad to gas his own people when the whole world is watching him is neither logical or sane. If he really was a bad dictator Russia would have put their own man in position to rule Syria.
Assad is the only guarantee that Christians live in harmony with muslims over there.

 

Life is many shades of grey, don't project your childlike ideas onto me. Good and Bad are simplistic labels... everyone has good and bad in different measures. Let me be clear I don't give a **** if Assad is considered good or bad... I'm interested in what he does and what he does is drop Sarin and Chlorine gas on children... while Russia looks the other way.

 

Re chemical weapons used by Assad I'll post a link from Arms Control association with a timeline of chemical weapon use in Syria (up to November last year so do not include the 6 chemical weapons attacks of the past month.)

Timeline of Syrian Chemical Weapons Activity, 2012-2017
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Timeline-of-Syrian-Chemical-Weapons-Activity

Since this thread is about Russia's retaliation for the death of their pilot, I will add this

I get it... you need revenge... but what is happening have gone past it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-left-hide-say-syrians-war-enters-deadly-new/

One of it's bloodiest weeks in nearly seven years of war.... and they've been fighting ISIS... Assad saves his worst for the rebels...

The only thing Russia is doing in Syria atm is aiding Assad's genocide of those who rebelled against him. Sochi peace process was a failure and Russia have no answers on what to do while Assad butchers his people and Russia is busy with revenge... it's time to reign him in. It's time for Russia to give us some sort of indication that they are in fact in control of this situation. This is exactly what the international community feared when Russia entered this war. Help Assad the butcher back on his feet.

 

Don't we all look the other way when USA is dropping bombs on other countries? And invading on false pretext? Should "the world" maybe do something about it? Don't be silly. It's so easy with live by those crocodile tear arguments you have. Russia has done more for Syria than the west have ever done for a country in the middle east.

 

Russian pilot died in an unequal battle like a hero.

In 1968 American pilot McCain surrendered to the Vietcong like a perfect chickensh@t.

That's what I think.

 

ok so obviously you're not one of those people who ramble on with nothing to say (thank you for that btw) there's a bit more in your post than at first glance,

Well yes and no... we whinge, protest and carry on but no one so far have been able to do anything about the US ... not even themselves and especially not us here in Australia. Do we want to... no we don't because Australia need the US in an increasingly hostile world, our societies are similar and I like my free and comfy lifestyle and intend to keep it. Does it make me a hypocrite... yes it does. Is that enough for me to change my mind... (sitting here with my feet up, a nice glass of ice water and a bowl of cherries) no it's not.

You're assuming I'm complaining about Assads treatment of the Syrian rebels (from my comfortable chair with my feet up ice water and bowl of cherries) unaware that ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al-Nusra are embedded with civilians. One... yes it is easy because I'm very comfortable... two. I am however aware of extremists embedded among civilians but unlike you I am not ignoring the civilians who are currently dying in their hundreds every day and sometimes by horrific means (referring to chemical weapons used by Assad)

Russia has done more for Assad than the west have ever done.... Syria... not so much

 

Look at the source.

These guys get the money from different western funds. They work for the money. Their job is to interprete the official information to the public. Do you really see it as a reliable source?
Now let's have a look at references:
'December 23, 2012: The first allegation of chemical weapons use was reported.'
0 reference.
'A secret State Department cable from the U.S. consul general in Istanbul said there was compelling evidence that'
0 reference.
'Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said that'
Not a source. This is a job of national security council to justify illegal presence of American troops in Syria.
'The Assad regime claimed that Syrian opposition forces used chemical weapons in the fighting there.'
Official reference. But it witnesses that Assad regime doesn't take the responsibility and is worried about use of chemical weapons. Terrorists act otherwise. First they blackmail, then they take the responsibility hoping to terrorize the people and push the officials to act their way. It's stupid to perform a terror attack pretending it's not you. It wouldn't work. It has no sense. If you read timeline you will clearly (and perhaps surprisingly) see the side performing terrorizing activity around chemical weaponry.
'The Syrian government requested the United Nations conduct an investigation of the March 19 attack on Aleppo'
Official reference. But again it shows that Assad didn't have anything to conceal. You never have a murderer who calls police after the killing from the place of murder reporting it to police and starting the investigation. Never.
'UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced the United Nations will conduct an investigation on the possible use of chemical weapons in Syria, in conjunction with the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).'
Official reference. Good one. But it proves nothing. It just gives a hint to 2 official organizations who should have the information on their official web-sites about the issue. From this point it makes all the sense to doublecheck the information of your non-official source with official information.
'Syrian opposition activists reported that Syrian forces used chemical weapons from multiple rocket launchers at the town of Adra, northeast of Damascus'
Non-official reference. There is no 'Syrian opposition'. And if we mean the opposition in the civil war we again need to understand that the report of one side about the other side activity needs to be checked and investigated. They cannot see the actual rockets with a certain weapon loaded on a launcher and fired anywhere. They are not able to see if it was Assad himself, his family, his soldiers, his secret services. They can report about the result - 'multiple rockets came', '2 people dead', 'dozens' felt dizzy. And if we are attentive we would notice that something is wrong at this point. Because if you fire an ordinary rocket from let's say American drone and two civilians get killed with dozens injured - there is no such a fuss in western propaganda... But in this case there was a 'red-line' crossed. Think why it could happen.

And so on. You need to analyze the source and its reference before you throw a load information into your opponents face as a fact

1. The article tells about a completely different region of Syria. The plane was downed in the north. And Damascus is located to the south of the region. It's good to notice that the article creates a feeling that there is a connection between two different episodes. This is how propaganda works. Information looks differently. It gives facts (with reference), opinions (with reference) and analytics in case it is an analytical essay.
2. 'The white helmets' is an organization whose primary task is to provide photos of bleeding kids badly ripped off to western consumers of the information. It's a market. When there is a demand there will be supply. These helmets will provide you with photos until you want to have a look at them.
3. If you tell me more 100% episodes of these guys in Ghuta fighting with ISIS than me giving the same quantity of episodes of their collaboration with ISIS I would seriously take this argument. But even in this case the guys have a way out. There currently are going several negotiations between all the numerous Syrian parties and sides of conflict. If these guys don't want to be killed they can participate, cease fire and look for a peaceful way out. Assad does participate. He IS looking for peace.
4. The most severe bombings by Russian aircraft happened much earlier. At the moment the most of Russian aircraft is back to Russia as long as the strongest parts of ISIS have been defeated. The peak has been passed. But at the moment there are illegal invaders from western countries in Syria with some weaker support of local 'rebels'. The article spreads lies to the favour of invaders telling about 'the bloodiest week'.

If Assad leaves Syria will turn to another Libya without any opportunity to restore any peace for decades. Like it happened already in Afghanistan or Iraq. In these circumstances the countries can be run from abroad (a delivery of some old weaponry to one of the warlords can lead to everything possible to demand from Syrian people), but the quality of life and the very possibility of life would be the same as in the countries where NATO butchers supported by all those 'kind-hearted' people who like to watch kids bleeding to death on-line. It would have been much better if instead of running around carrying blood on their hands and blaming Putin and Assad the people would stop for a minute and think about what is actually happening and if the 'Assad must go' has at least some sense to restore any control and peace in Syria.

 

It's all hearsay 'evidence' gathered from the so-called White Helmets, many of whom I'd bet very big odds are jihadists, and the West is gullible and dumb enough to believe them. Indeed, the West wants to believe them!

('Assad the butcher' )