Is there any reason why we should believe anything Trump says?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We are not going to get that as long as Trump is President. Trump requested that his meeting with Putin be held in secret, no advisors. That is unprecedented and very dangerous. What did the President agree to? No one has any idea, not his DNI, not his SecState, not his SecDef, not his chief of staff, no one.

    Why did he do that? There are a few reasons, but one of them is that he can put his own interpretation on the meeting and we are supposed to believe him. There is no possibility of other viewpoints of what was discussed, only his viewpoint.

    The idea that Trump thinks Americans will accept that situation is, perhaps, most dangerous of all. He is being misled by his base. He honestly all Americans are as gullible as his base is. That is not good.
     
  2. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump is a Russian sympathizer. His base remains solidly in support of him. Trump can do no wrong.

    Logically, it follows his base consists of Russian sympathizers as well.

    A quarter of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (25%) said they had a favorable view of Putin, compared with just 9% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.
     
  3. Chuck711

    Chuck711 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2017
    Messages:
    3,761
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    All Politicians bend the truth.

    Trump Lies all the time.

    Sadly we're getting used to it..........it's beginning to be OK for our President to Lie all the time.

    America has lost what it once stood for !
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You believe all that the resistance says. I pay no attention to your wild claims.
     
    PrincipleInvestment likes this.
  5. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Absolutely true.
     
  6. Xtremenerd

    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Democrats have been lying non stop for the last 2 years. They have been consistently and deliberately misleading the public just as much as Trump.
     
  7. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,248
    Likes Received:
    3,012
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Actually, I don't care whether you believe Trump or not. Trump just drives you people crazy, and that alone is worth voting for Trump.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I figured Obama got Democrats completely used to lying.
     
  9. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    accusing all Democrats of being liars, is a form of bigotry.
     
  10. Chuck711

    Chuck711 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2017
    Messages:
    3,761
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No..... President Obama pretty much was on the straight and narrow.

    Yeah we heard about the " Keep your Doctor " thing. Most kept their Dr....... I did as most.

    Trump changed what America stands for.

    Trump has devalued the office of President and dishonored America.
     
    The Bear likes this.
  11. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2018
    Messages:
    5,864
    Likes Received:
    4,631
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Of course you have facts to back this up.
     
  12. Xtremenerd

    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I didn't call all Democrats liars, I said I don't trust them because of their clear propensity to lie when it benefits them. And I'm not making this comment because of the Democrats beliefs.
     
  13. Xtremenerd

    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    63
    You will find I never say anything without facts to back my statements up.
    Look up any comment about the GOP tax bill, where every Democrat who had something to say called it a disaster for the middle class that has simply turned out to not be the case. We can look at the pictures of people in cages, from 2014, that Democrats claim was a product of Trump's immigration policy.
     
  14. Chuck711

    Chuck711 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2017
    Messages:
    3,761
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Wealth Shift Legislation has only helped the rich on the backs of the poor. Especially the old and young. Corporations made out great.

    They eliminated deductions that affected hundreds millions of Americans. Especially the medical deduction we Lost.

    Now we are borrowing this year a Trillion Dollars because of the Loss of revenue. Yeah Trumps a great business person.......... 4 bankruptcies ??

    Noiw Trump is bankrupting America.

    Trump removing children from their parents was inhumane.
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2018
    The Bear likes this.
  15. Xtremenerd

    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    63
    What you have said is not relevant to what you originally posted, you asked me to give you lies, here they are. EVEN IF the new tax code advantages the rich it hasn't destroyed the middle class. And the photos were from Obama' Administration not Trump. You are trying to shift the paradigm of this conversation to the merit of those issues, not the fact that the Democrat's lied about them.
     
  16. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) is a communist party in the United States. Originally a group in the Communist Party USA that supported Leon Trotsky against Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, it places a priority on "solidarity work" to aid factory workers.

    Trump’s imposed steep tariffs on imported steel and aluminum. That delighted the factory workers he had championed. “Enthusiastic and gratified are probably understatements,” said Michael A. Bless, the president of Century Aluminum.

    Today, Fox News interrupted its scheduled programing to accommodate President Trump's "Pledge to America's Workers Event."
     
  17. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump wants another summit with Putin this fall in New York. Dan Coats, Trump's DNI, heard about it while he was being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell. They both had a good laugh.

    “We have some breaking news, the White House has announced on Twitter that Vladimir Putin is coming to the White House in the fall,” Mitchell said during an event with Coats at the Aspen Security Forum.

    “Say that again?” Coats replied, before laughing.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...a-mitchell-breaks-news-to-us-intel-chief-that

    You had to see it live. It was so cherry.
     
  18. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Then it ought to be a simple matter to set the record straight and provide us with "reality, facts, and truth."

    But you don't do that. You totally ignore the message and tear into the messenger. That is a very strong indication you have no idea what you are talking about.

    It is a very strong indication you can't question the reality I described and the facts to support that reality.
     
  19. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Truth doesnt hurt me. Have any?
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2018
    Gatewood likes this.
  20. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you ever provide more than just B.S.?

    Now you are dwelling on an election that took place 21 months ago. Jeez!

    Of course, Trump does the same thing. He still talks about poor Hillary, servers, the election itself, and 30,000 emails.

    One thing I have noticed is that Trump's fans are smart enough to know not to use Trump's statements and tweets to defend Trump. Isn't that interesting?

    That's my loss. I would love it if they did. Unfortunately, the only one using Trump's actual statements and tweets is me.

    That says something, I think.
     
  21. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Good, then you don't mind this truth. After all, you never questioned it.

    Trump is a Russian sympathizer. His base remains solidly in support of him. Trump can do no wrong.

    Logically, it follows his base consists of Russian sympathizers as well.

    A quarter of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (25%) said they had a favorable view of Putin, compared with just 9% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.
     
  22. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,671
    Likes Received:
    27,205
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nope. Trump lies constantly and is always claiming that the truth is "fake" and that respectable news media are "fake news." **** the stupid kook. He is unfit to manage a daycare, let alone be president of the country.

    Only Trump could have convinced me to vote Democrat. I'm going to do it. I'm voting for impeachment come November, if that's what it's going to take.
     
    The Bear and Margot2 like this.
  23. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Aw, let him troll. He is not very good at it. :rock_slayer:
     
  24. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump is a russian sympathizer? ok. what was obama? We caught that mother ****er on tape actually colluding...not the pretend colluding you guys make up. Tell us.. Let us see your honesty.
     
    Stevew and Gatewood like this.
  25. BarleyPopGuy

    BarleyPopGuy Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,566
    Likes Received:
    1,040
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    OT: You should believe Trump! He is a genius! He tweets in the morning about (whatever will send the media into a frenzy) and then goes on about his business of winning. The left buys into it and it becomes an all day news story. I love it! Meeting with Putin showed Trump how low the media will go, for all to see, so what does Trump do? Invite Putin to D.C. Brilliant! What is funny is you wont catch on until your grandchild comes home from school with his/her history reading assignment.
     
    Robert likes this.

Share This Page