Maybe the media really is the enemy

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Patriot Radio yesterday cited a great comment regarding Baier.
    That it is very unclear what Political Persuation Brett Baier truly is.
    He is that Professional and balanced.Of course we didn't learn how
    Liberal Walter Cronkite truly was until it was too late.We knew about
    his replacement { Dan Rather } all along.Even though Rather did attempt
    to hide it.Keep in mind how sneaky O'Reilly became about his true
    Voting block.The last few years of his Perch at Fox he stressed how
    Independent he was.Kept reminding his viewers that he was an Independent.
    O'Reilly said it for one reason only.To keep his enemies at bay.By Insisting
    he was an Independent,he wouldn't be The Guy on the block to pin
    the tail on,even though he started acting more and more like a Jackass.
    O'Reilly was very touchy about his Reign as King of Cable Outlet.
    Then when the debate took place when O'Reilly kept bragging how he
    was a true Reporter who actually covered Real Wars in person.
    Guys like David Corn made a big stink about that " supposed O'Reilly
    Reporting from an actual war zone " fact.
     
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    Only if we leave it up to media to do our thinking for us. To blame it on the media suggests we are either lazy or not too smart.
     
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    The 50's was a good place to cite for context.In the 50's,a majority
    of Blacks were Republicans.At least those who made an effort to vote.
    Plus Blacks rarely went out in public w/o looking their Sunday best.
    It was President Eisenhower,a Republican who had his 1957 civil
    rights bill.The Senate that year was a majority of Democrats with
    L.B.J. being the Senate Majority leader.L.B.J. wasn't interested
    in any civil rights bill.Nor was J.F.K. It wasn't until 10 years later that
    L.B.J. swore he'd have them Blacks votin' Democrats for the next 200 years.
    By starting his Great Society Project { Welfare }.This same savior of Blacks
    did everything he could to stop and stall Eisenhowers '57 civil rights bill.
    BTW ... George Reeves { Superman TV series } committed suicide by
    gunshot.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that so.It's like going to the Newstand and all there is are comic books.
    Or Going to a Video store and nothing but porn.
    Going to a Hot dog stand and just Tacos.
    If a far majority of the MSM,think,write and display one-sided bias
    then what Should the result be.
    People need just put on their thinking caps and think for themselves.
    That ain't how Life operates.We are Creatures of our Environment.
    Take away ALL Fast food and we are more like a North Korea.
    That is partly why Pelosi and Schumer act the way they do.
    They actually feel they have a majority of America On Their Side.
    That when it comes to Shutdowns the Republican Party is
    always blamed.Or considered The Obstructionists'.
    You really need to pay closer attention.
     
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    Comedy Central, Colbert is the major source of news for progressives. They quote him every day.
     
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    How is that different from the one sided bias from the non-msm? This is not a whataboutism kind of comment, but about critical thinking and our role in supporting biased media. People are suggesting that the media is to blame. I see it differently.
    Which is what I've been saying. How can we think for ourselves if we only accept information from sources that fit our biases?
    Lost me on that one...
    How do you actually know what the majority of America thinks?
     
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    He literally said the reports were inaccurate. Given what the reports were over, that means your theory is either incorrect or Mueller was lying.
     
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    You're gonna get mail, LOL.
     
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    There is a strong scent of naivety in this thread, both on behalf of the OP and fellow conservative posters.

    Let's follow fifth grader logic here, to test whether conservative posters here are being naïve or simply are more dense than a block of ice.

    We are given the right to a free press, that is how the media is addressed. When you begin saying the media is a bad guy, you start gnawing away at the framework of this country that everyone learned in fifth grade civics. The right to a free press, regardless of bias or subjective individual distaste, is granted by the constitution. The people who don't want to hear or read what the media says are the enemy, not the media itself. Forget this fake news bullshit that runs rampant in the right wing section of the country today, newspapers and tv stations have ran and retracted stories for decades.

    The OP is more of an enemy than the press he or she is asserting is.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    " media really is the enemy"...Mussolini thought so....


    Yup, after turning ALL other "media" into the enemy. Of course he had his own "media"...that was the POINT of making other media the "enemy' ….so only HIS ideas were printed.
     
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    You are going to find out. :roflol:
     
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    What ever they are at FOX- they are head and shoulders above CNN and their kind when it comes to reporting truth, both negative and positive.
    CNN has no idea what that means.

    But it doesn't matter, according to Ocasio-Cortez, Bimbo liberal from NYC... the world is coming to an end in 12 years anyway. Of course, CNN didn't mention that. Just never mind.
     
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    Your error is the non sequitur that removal of basic press protections under the 1A necessarily follows from understanding the fact that media is the enemy of the people.
     
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    Because that is 90% of them...
     
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    I don't mean conspiracy where commies gather in some seedy coffee shop to bring down the government. I do mean a hive mind. It's well established that reporters and commentators are Democrats. Yes, I know there are Republucan sympathizers at Fox. So that's one network. ONE! And I challenged liberals above to show bias on several Fox shows. They can't, because there isn't.
     
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    No, let's use 4th grade logic and test how dumb you are.

    [Actually, I stopped reading your post when you got insulting and personal.]
     
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    Trump needs Russia and China's help if he is to get N. Korea to denuke. What is wrong in trying to lessen tensions with your enemy? Reagan did.
    Reagan was his rival, friend, Gorbachev says - Baltimore Sun

    www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-te.soviet07jun07-story.html

    Do you think Trump can win Russia's help over by calling Putin a liar to his face? That is basically the position the news people put him in when they held a news conference after the meeting and they asked Trump about Russian interference. Of course he asked him and of course Putin would have said no. I think he's smart if he can win over both China and Russia. Tensions were getting high in Syria and ISIS was wiped out as a fighting Army. It will be hit and run with them now. You have Turkey, Kurds, Syria, Russia and Iran hunting them down Why do we need to be there. See what happened before we pulled out. A number of our soldiers killed by a suicide bomber. A run in with Russian mercenaries where we killed over a 100 of them. We don't need to be there and have tensions escalate between us. We aren't going to drive Russia or Iran out. Syria is their biggest Allie in the Middle East. I don't even know why Obama and Hillary were dumb enough to think they would stand by and do nothing to stop them taking out Assad.

    If you remember Trump said last year he wouldn't sign another budget without money for the wall. He felt it was that important for the safety of the country. He did what he promised to do. The Democrats are just refusing to give him anything. They left him no choice but shut it down. But he stayed there and asked them to come back and bargain with him. They refused and went on vacation for a week instead and Hillary was going to load the plan down with Democrats and take another week off and you want to blame Trump for this long fight and our Federal employees not getting paid?
     
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    Because the Left and MSM don't miss a single weekday telling us.
    Precisely what America thinks.Thru Polling.
    Like the way Hillary was almost guaranteed to win the Presidency
    in 2016.And that Trump assuredly Colluded with Russia to influence
    a General Election.
    That Brett Kavanaugh was a serial high school masher and womanizer.
    A drunk and a rowdy and a guy obviously itching to do Trump's bidding.
    And on and on and on until even cows forget to fart.
     
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    If what you claim is true then YOU have the responsibility to point it out
    with specifics.Which is precisely why the MSM uses Pile-on Groupthink.
    Most of Fox has hosts that do exactly that.They make their case based on
    specifics ... Not MSM Democrat Talking pts. and areas like Virtue Shaming
    and Identity Politics.Those are the Lazy Man's vehicle.
    How Obama got Elected and Re-elected and to this day is held
    in esteem by his peer.Because he help cultivate the environment we are now
    stuck in.Obama is by and far ... The Most Divisive American President in
    History.Surpassing even Woodrow Wilson.
     
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    Some above obviously do not understand the dif between opinion polls and predictive polls.

    The Alt Right and Trumpers gang stalk and try to overwhelm their opponents, and they have been failing lately.

    Trump is by far the most divisive President since Lincoln. The dif between the two is that Trump is no patriot.
     
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    Sure he's patriot, lol.

    But who do you think could bring the country together in this environment?

    Personally, I voted for Johnson because I didn't think too many would hate his guts as much as hate Trump and Hillary. It's hard to hate Bernie Sanders, but he's such a commie, my god.
     
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    I don't disagree with this at all. Presumably GEICO, Pfeizer, Jenny Craig, T-Mobile, Sleep Number and the rest place their ads after deciding whether their target audience is liberal or conservative. They do focus groups and check the orientation of the people who like and dislike the ads. And we know they watch the shows because they pull ads if anything controversial happens.

    Can't offend the customers!

    Good post
     
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    I think it best that all you guys stop watching TV altogether. I will continue watching as a monitor, as I am not moved by propaganda, and report in from time to time.

    That's a pal.
     
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    Some above obviously do not understand the dif between opinion polls and predictive polls.

    The Alt Right and Trumpers gang stalk and try to overwhelm their opponents, and they have been failing lately.

    Trump is by far the most divisive President since Lincoln. The dif between the two is that Trump is no patriot.
    I voted for the Conservative: there was no other choice for me morally, ethically, etc. I do not know who can make the Right subside and think.
     
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    About a decade ago it was admitted that George Soros routinely donates heavily to various schools of journalism and then the information vanished.
     

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