Another Putin assassination

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  1. ArchStanton

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    Germany must be a "you are guilty until you prove your innocence" country. Two pages of bullshit without any proof. Rule of law, eh? Wasn't that how Germany treated people in the late 1930's?
     
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    MAGA is fact resistant.
     
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    You need to inform yourself about this case
    Before spouting.
     
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    Lefties used to laugh when I suggested they would support a Fascist
    Russia if their beloved Communism failed in that country. Appears to
    happening. How I wish I could find those people now.

    In cyber-attacks, drug cheating and assassinations of dissidents,
    Russia acts outside the law. I think the Left supports this Fascist and
    oligarchic state simply on the basis of "My enemy's enemy is my friend."

    If Russia had a legal issue with some dissident they could have gone to
    the German govt and sought an extradition, just as America would do.
    Germany operates under the rule of law. If Russia was after a dissident
    hiding out in a war zone, like northern Syria, then there would be less
    anger if he was taken out by military means.
     
  5. Jeannette

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    Uhhh! Didn't Russia offer to be part of the Skripal investigation and didn't Britain refuse? And didn't Russia offer to be part of the shoot down of the airliner in Ukraine, and didn't the Netherlands refuse? Also wasn't Russia falsely accused of interfering in our last election?

    Seems like Russia's fed up with Western lies, idiocies and false accusations, and doesn't give a damn what Germany, the US or the rest of Europe thinks. Good for them, enough is enough!



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    when listening to the reverie
    of lands a-far. For what I know,
    it's but a show and soon they'll go.

    But not before they suffer dear
    for having poked the Russian bear - Jeannette

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those voices, those voices
    they keep telling me:
    "Fear Putin they say
    for what you can't see".

    Is that him up there!
    Oh no he's down here.

    My God I think he's everywhere. Aghhh! - Jeannette

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    I suspect, without doing the hard yards here - that this argument is disingenuous.
    Holland is still waiting, so too is Britain. And now it's Germany's turn.


    1 Russians.jpg
    Still waiting...
     
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    I'll hazard a guess that those 4 will end up dead somewhere/somehow. They know too much.....Kremlin doesn't like loose ends.
     
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    Look, having a chechen here is not in our interest. This was most elegant solution to get rid of him. I would not doubt that our secret service was involved. Our halfassed reaction indicates that.
     
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    So why didn't Russia go through the channels and get this guy extradited?
    Is Merkel playing a double game in acting angry?
    How does this murder fit into all the other murders you can easily find on Google?
     
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    And all those Syrian and African refugees? Are they going to
    be killed too?
     
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    How coincidental that Vladimir Putin is being demonized all over again, just when Bill Browder's Magnitsky fables were being brought to light. I guess it's upsetting our 'war party'.

    Because of Bill Browder's lies to Congress, in December 2012, the United States passed the Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act, which imposes visa sanctions and asset freezes on those involved in Sergei’s arrest, torture and death, as well as other gross human rights abusers.

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    A recent ruling in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) supports findings in a Norwegian documentary and points to a falsification of the central premise in the Magnitsky case as told by Bill Browder.

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    A major Danish newspaper, Finans has taken a thorough and conscientious look into Bill Browder, his background, the gaping inconsistencies of his Magnitsky fable and the censorship attacks aimed at those who dare challenging him. Now the paper is under attack for just doing their job.

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    https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-inconsistencies-of-bill-browder-and-the-magnitsky-act_2642783.html
     
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    Maybe they are under attack for taking a Left wing, pro-Russian POV
    on the topic? Just like the Left did during the Vietnam War - parroting
    every statement which came out of Hanoi as received truth.
    You might get away with defending one dead Russian dissident, but
    these men and women's bodies keep piling up.
    There's usually an element in truth in most statements - it's just the
    great majority of thinking Westerners don't believe a thing Russia says,
    anything from their drug cheats to nibbling away at the sovereignty of
    other nations.
     
  14. Jeannette

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    Uhhh, we're talking about Russia here, not Ukraine which seems to specialize in assassinations. So tell me, has Kiev added anymore bodies to the Russian reporters, diplomats, and Donbas heroes Motorola, Givi, and Zacharchenko that they killed?
     
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    Merkel is not acting angry and according our law he could not have been extradicted. This was the most elegant solution to get rid of him.

    Look what fuss the UK made when Russia killed one there. Merkel holds it low profile. A few unpleasent words and extradiction of 2 diplomats. The gas deal meanwhile runs smoothly.
     
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    Great example of projection. Thanks.
     
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    And Malaysia is still waiting for proof and not lies from the 'propagandists' on what happened to their plane. They will accept none of the western garbage, nor does anyone else in the free world - and by free, I mean the nations who will not do Washington's bidding.

    Of course I realize this is all beyond you, so keep dreaming on.



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    Sobo, Putin never killed Skripal. Let's look at reality.
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    Skripal's daughter had a boy friend in Moscow who was a member of Russian Intelligence, and both he and his mother disappeared when they were poisoned. It seems that she was being used by Moscow to get information from her father, so what would Russia have to gain in killing them?

    Britain on the other hand couldn't risk having them live so they devised a way to kill them and put the blame on Putin.
     
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    Look, Russian sympathizers can explain away a murder here, a murder there.
    (Why ?????)
    But the PATTERN over many years now, both within Russia and abroad, is that
    these murders involve enemies of Putin.
     
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    This is truly funny.
     
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    No collateral damage compared with a surgical strike,
    something fishy what he is doing in Germany?
     
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    Germans welcome all terrorists though. Why would that offend you?
     
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    *LOL*
     
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    Look at the Big Picture.
    The journalists murdered in Russia - doing something fishy?
    The business people jailed and their companies seized - doing something fishy?
    Former spies under prison exchange - doing something fishy?
    Protestors and rivals who disappear or get sick in jail - doing something fishy?
    All the nations complaining about Russian interference - doing something fishy?

    I think the Russian government and its Western Sympathizers are the fishy ones.
     
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