Trump ordered US drone strike that killed Iran general Qassem Suleimani

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  1. thoughtprocess

    thoughtprocess Well-Known Member

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    You hit the core of the dysfunction America is going through because of republicans and establishment dems. We use to be able to go to war unjustly to spread democracy, to display democracy. It’s not looking so good anymore. The people follow and don’t think or are manipulated to think they are winning or other people who have no ability to attack us here are evil threats. Every king in history that thought his god, his way, his people are the best his life ended abruptly and horribly. That is what democracy looks like now a king with nothing but an army. Except war now doesn’t kill a king it kills the countries people.
     
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    No war. Iran is a land of deprivation, destitution, and despair—They couldn’t beat a cockroach with Raid—they cant afford the price.

    So, one blood thirsty monster blown to smithereens, a few meaningless buildings blow up. I’d say that’s very cost efficient.
     
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  4. thoughtprocess

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    Lol I can’t believe people. The people who brought you suicide bombers are afraid, the people who survived the crusaders are afraid. That you can call humans roaches without understanding the functions of roaches they don’t feed off of us we sanction them you do know that right? They are human with families please don’t lack humanity. You deem them incapable but they have allies. You deem them incapable but we are in the Middle East for no reason other than money. Democracy hasn’t and won’t spread further because democracy brought us Vietnam, the Iraq war, and uncontrollable drone strikes. It just won’t happen. We have operated in the region under the guise of democracy yet democracy has gained nothing for Muslims only death. Say bye to Iraq (what a waist of resources). Democracy to me is value every country has it but our value every man and women capable and with a voice being able to contribute to growth. You my equal are going the other way. It’s my way or the highway.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would love to say, "Never has one mind been so wrong about so many things, willingly", except, there are so many minds like yours, that they have infected American politics and turned the government into gang warfare and foreign policy and turn America into the Great Appeaser--and it is the reason the evil of Iranian Islamic Totalitarianism continues to infect our lives 40 years after they declared war on us.

    And yes, they are afraid...of life, not death. Death they worship, that's not bravery, that's cowardice. (BTW: Democracy guarantees that the rights of the individual will be violated on a daily basis, and therefore will always decay by corruption into a dictatorship.)
     
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    Says you but they are people not defined by anything you learned fully. They are afraid?those who fully embrace a god are afraid of nothing. And if you ever feel afraid than god is not the answer. And cowardice isn’t striking back with a methodology that says the bAll is in your court. They made a choice for their people how can a country who we deem evil actually care about people and country you are far from the mark.
     
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    Those who embrace God fully, be they Jews, Muslims, or Christians, have surrendered their reason to faith, reality to mysticism, and the love of their life to the worship of death. I'd rather not, thank you very much.

    BTW: It is not caring about others that makes one moral, it's living one's life to one's fullest potential as a rational, creative being.
     
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    I just have to say you are wrong. I never flat out said that to anyone because I value opinions. We are a democracy a place where free thinkers are welcome you my friend have dictated no one should think and do for themselves. And that’s not America that’s mob rule.
     
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    Oh, they can think for themselves all they want, I encourage it. What they can't do is attack free men, for any reason, ever. Unless you consider Iran to be a free nation protecting freedom of thought, instead of an Islamic dictatorship where the law of the land is "bow before Allah, or bow before the executioner's sword. "
     
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    I’m a Christian I believe in God, I love God. I hate and love people of my own choosing. Death whether an afterlife or nothingness is true. Either way I value life. I value the progression of humanity. I want to see life lived more than just loss. For you to be able to classify everyone so clearly says hey there is right and wrong. The belief in right and wrong is a higher power than consciousness. You can’t define me because you have yet to define right and wrong the only thing I see that is of An abundance Of hypocrisy. You want for Democracy peace but others they are insects.
     
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    Isn’t war a direct Attack on free men. Whether they have to fight and die or become innocent victims of it?
     
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    Can be. The only time war is justified is self-defense. This qualifies.
     
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    You're lying to yourself--you can not value the joy of living if happiness is only available to you in the afterlife. What is right? The rational. What is wrong? The irrational. What is morality? A set of principles to live by to have a happy and prosperous life. What is immoral? Human sacrifice. What provides knowledge? Reason. What requires force? Faith.

    There, now you know.
     
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    The world is full of rivers of blood provided by those who love humanity, including that wretch, Mother Theresa.

    You can not love God and love Man at the same time, it's a contradiction in terms--a delusion vs a reality--though you can hide your hatred of Man in the flotsam of humanity.
     
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    Always fight, never cower. Take it to them. Whoever them are.
     
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    But it wasn’t self defense. It was a preemptive strike. I agree in self defense. But to create a scenario whereas your people in a region that has nothing to do with us other than resources and business interests and Americans die because of it isn’t valid. Muslims are a people and is war justified just because we believe in different things?
     
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    God made man so therefore man is my brothers and sisters enough said.
     
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    You know, just as there is no argument about the chemical formula, H2O in science, there is no argument about the evil of tyranny and goodness of liberty in politics. BTW: How is an independent mind a mob? As I mentioned earlier...well you know, too many squishy minds.
     
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    It makes me frown, a remnant of the Dark Ages, or a return. Time will tell.
     
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    Oh, I see, 11/4/1979 never occurred. Okay. That must be that faith of yours working. Faith is like that, overrides reality every time.

    None of this happened, either, did they, Mr. Humanity?

    "For almost four decades, Iran and its terrorist proxies have targeted American civilians and military personnel. From the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut to more than a decade of attacks against U.S. military personnel in Iraq, Iran’s terrorist proxies have killed more Americans than any terrorist group other than al-Qaida. These attacks underscore Iran’s malign activities in the region and beyond. Congress and the administration must continue to confront Iran’s regional aggression and support for terrorism."-- https://www.aipac.org/-/media/publi...a-history-of-iranian-attacks-on-americans.pdf


    Fear the altruists, there are never enough humans to satisfy their lust for sacrifices.
     
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    This post of yours contains false information. The world leader in state sponsored terrorism is not Iran. That 'honor' goes to Israel and the US. Those 2 states have delivered many more terrorist attacks, much more terrorism, than anything delivered by Iran.
     
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    Your going by what we think but not understanding why. We went to their region we killed their people. We called them roaches and animals. State where we were attacked in our country or in Mexico and Canada where they came here and disrupt our way of life. God gave man authority over ourselves so never once is God to blame only our own personal choices. You say they deserve it and I say they will progress in life in love all by themselves. And we with homelessness mass incarceration, mass migration from our neighbors have yet to be solved. So why are we arguing killing Muslims for nothing more than we are better and we are right.
     
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    Hmm. Another Tull.



    Go to Iran, practice Christianity. If you're still alive after 1 month, return to America, practice Islam. Let's see where you fare better.
     
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    The US is a land of censorship, deception and approval of torture and extrajudicial assassinations.

    Which is better as a country?
     
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    BS, if the US or Israel attacked civilians in order to kill them like the other side does you will notice the difference.
     

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