Trump wants to delay the election? Really?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He does not have the authority to do that.
     
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    The left hates Trump so much that when he Tweeted the idea, the Party of Hate instantly went the opposite direction. This puts them in favor of allowing public voting, and if they can do that they cannot oppose opening schools or other public places.
     
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    I voted for Trump and will do it again if he's on the ticket. But I think it was dumb for the person in office to suggest the election be delayed.
     
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    Let's say he postpones the elections somehow. Maybe by declaring martial law, sending troops into the streets with orders to shoot anybody who comes out. And shutting down the Postal Service so mail-in ballots can't be delivered... Something like that.

    If he accomplished that, the Constitution is clear: at noon on January 20 Trump will cease to be President* of the United States.

    And in the absence of an elected President, guess who becomes President according to the Constitution....

    Hail to the Chief, President Pelossi!
     
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    Precisement !
     
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    The article I linked to was written by the co - founder of the Federalist Society, a straight ahead right wing group, and he stated that if Trump doesn't relent, he should be impeached for this. I can't argue with that man's integrity.
     
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    Impeach!!! There you go again!!! Gosh, can't Trump have an opinion like the rest of us. Only Congress can change when we vote.
     
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    Recommending unconstitutional proposals, at the presidential level, reflects incompetence. If a president has opinions, he, if he were competent, would run them by his constitutional experts first.
     
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    LOL -- And during a Q&A the president could have a constitutional expert beside him to whisper in his ear the answer to all questions. Biden could benefit from such an arrangement -- if he ever engages in a Q&A session.
     
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    Quote him saying he wants to delay it.

    Quote him saying HE would do it if it were done.

    As one option he posed it. It COULD be done but only by Congress and it would not be practicable because it could only be delayed for a couple of weeks before it would run into Constitutional requirements.

    So it's a moot point anyway.
     
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    I never said he said it. I stated that he doesn't have the power to do it. As President, he has no such authority. As you stated, only Congress has to be involved.
     
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    He never claimed he did as is trying to be made out like in the title saying he said he wants to do it. Glad you agree that is not what he said.
     
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    I don't really use social media so I don't know if this is legitimate.


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    Note he did not say he was going to do it or it should be done.
     
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    Noted.
     
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    No! A President cannot have the opinion that the Constitution can be ignored. His job is to defend it.

    It's as if the CEO of Ford stated publicly that, in his opinion, Chrysler's trucks are better.
     
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    Play closer attention to the title of the OP, it's a question. Note the wording in the Tweet linked to.

    Note the wording in the following line in the OP

    "Anyway, if that's how he feels, the Lincoln Project has a message":
    Note the essay linked to written by the co-founder of the Federalist society, which is consistent with the tweet.

    You're rebuttal, therefore, is moot and/or nonsequitur. If you can't understand that fact, then you are not reading what is written.
    Moot and/or nonsequitur, per above.
    That fact has been established, but, given what we've seen from Trump, there is no telling what he might do, he's capable of trying to do just about anything, which is why the article linked to was written.
     
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    He questioned it. That’s all. NEVER said he would do anything. NEVER implied we should do it. Stupid to bring it up bit like a later tweet it was designed to get people talking. Still stupid.

    But those claiming he is trying to delay the election are LYING, just like they said he told people to drink bleach. LIE after LIE.
     
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    It's well known that Trump, when tossing out radical ideas that might be unconstitutional and/or outrageous, noting that Trump doesn't have the discipline to make a cursory check, he tweets a suggestion or will allude or hint at something as a trial balloon, to gauge the reaction. That's what he did in the tweet.
     
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    It's not unreasonable to assume, given the tweet, that Trump would delay the election if he know he could get away with it -- if he knew he had the backing of the Senate, which is why he tweeted it, to gauge reactions from his own camp. See, it's called a 'trial balloon'. Presidents do trial balloons, it's not uncommon, but they are usually within the parameters of the constitution.

    It's not stupid at all. Well, in answer to that trial balloon, the co-founder of the Federalist society whose court recommendations Trump has faithfully selected from, has responded an a way commensurate with the gravity of the astonishing and unconstitutional suggestion which Trump tweeted. You seem to not be cognizant of the fact that no president in history would have ever made such a suggestion given that most presidents have at least some basic knowledge of the constitution, especially on matters that go to the core of what American stands for, such as democracy, and that this president would tweet such a blatantly unconstitutional idea, even if done as a trial balloon, doesn't ruffle your sensibilities demonstrates you are completely numb to who Trump really is.
     
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    Steven G. Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society and a professor at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law. He voted for Trump. Both Gorsuch & Kavanaugh were selected from his court recommendations. He wrote (in the OpEd article linked to in the OP):

    But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.

    Ever heard of the telephone, or email, or even asking his chief of Staff ( assuming his COS is competent, as well )? A competent president would have ran a suggestion to delay an election. IN fact, a competent president wouldn't have ever even offer as a trail balloon something to blatantly unconstitutional as delaying the election. Trump is the joke and the joke's on you.
     
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    He doesn't have to. The Democrat Governors in several states are allowing mail in ballots to be counted if they are 17 days late. So, why are Democrats so up in arms if Trump wants to delay the election until everyone can feel safe and get out and vote at a polling site? Of course, the same people that complain about standing in line or working at a polling site are the same liars who stand in line at the store, walk around the store without a mask or go to family parties and get sick.

    As far as whether it's legal, Don't know. No one has tried to do it yet.
     
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    Why are leftist Democrats all of a sudden defending the Constitution they hate so much? Seems like they would welcome this effort to change the country into a authoritarian regime because that's what they are trying to do anyway. I find it fascinating, don't you?
     

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