CDC Reveals Hospitals Counted Heart Attacks As COVID-19 Deaths

Comorbidity. If COVID is the underlying condition that lead to the heart attack, then they died of both. Which the CDC has explained several times now. OAN is (deliberately?) misrepresenting the CDC data.

 

Looks like they are again misrepresenting the comorbidity table, same as when they spread the "Only 6% of COVID deaths are actually from COVID" lie, which the CDC has corrected them on by explaining that they could easily figure this all out if they actually READ the table. Which they won't.

 

IDK. I tend to not care too much but I do recognize that it is a bit subjective. If a person has Stage 4 Lung Cancer and throws a blood clot that kills him during chemotherapy, you can list the cause of death a few different ways and still be truthful. I am guessing a lot of these are nitpicky claims. Sure if you fall down the stairs and break your neck, COVID didn't kill you but if you have COVID and are in pretty bad shape, lots of things could kill you that otherwise may not have had you not developed a severe case of COVID.

 

Surprised that OANN, who also reported that Covid-19 was created by Dr. Fauci in a lab in NC, has created yet another fake report on Covid-19? No. I am not surprised at all

 

I'd say this is my shocked face but that wore out a long time ago.

 

I’ve been trying to tell y’all this for months

 

Then you've been wrong for months.

 

Science can define a man and a woman, a political agenda can not.

 

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Straight from the source, not a media manipulation. In the U.S.A. we count more CV-19 Deaths compared to other countries of the world. They don't count it if there was a pre-exisiting condition that caused the death, we do.

I know a guy that had a heart attack hiking on the Newport Coast trails. He had heart issues prior, but because he had gotten over CV-19 two weeks prior, they still counted it as a CV-19 death. He would not have been counted that way in most of the world. The bureaucrats (Leftist Class) have insured our counts are higher.

 

No I haven’t. The CDC’s website clearly shows that the case definition of a covid death is presenting with covid symptoms. That’s it.

 

And, attempts to misrepresent the comorbidity table aside, the CDC website shows we are likely undercounting, not overcounting, COVID deaths.

 

JFC.

OAN ? Really ?

Yes, people died of Heart Attacks, Respiratory Failure, etc, THAT WAS BROUGHT ON BY CORONAVIRUS. So without coronavirus they would still be alive. THEY WERE KILLED BY CORONA !!!!!!

Literally everything we know about coronavirus is that it causes exacerbates existing conditions. THATS why it's such a deadly virus. Stop making it something it is not

Coronavirus cause the heart attack, therefore Coronvirus was the cause of death.

Its liek when you get shot. The bullet goes thru your the heart, you're saying it isn't the bullett that killed you, its the hole in the heart.

 

That's simply not true. What you are posting is Leftist Propaganda and not fact. This video shared by LoneStarGal in Post #23 debunks the propaganda you are spreading. Here it is again below



Credit: LoneStarGal

 

This is just a recycling of the "only 7k covid deaths" garbage. If Covid isn't contributing to more deaths, then there seems to be a significant uptick in fatal heart attacks in the last 8 months.

 

So what has caused 10% increase to date of heart attack deaths this year compared to previous years?

 

The positivity rate was always going to increase this time of year with schools and colleges getting back in session, and colder weather driving more people inside. There's nothing remarkable about this. What actually is remarkable was the positivity rate we had during the summer, which is a time when the normal seasonal flu rate drops drastically.

The reason for the death rate not closely following the rise in cases is because the medical community has had a chance to come up with treatment plans that didn't exist yet in the spring. Those methods aren't going to save everyone but they will definitely lower the mortality rate as we've seen.

What is still up in the air is just how much the positivity rate, and with that, the hospitalization rate, is going to rise as we crawl into winter. There are new treatment methods sure, but we also now have to deal with pandemic fatigue, and an increasingly vocal movement that eschews practical and proven safety methods because they somehow feel this is a patriotic act.

And all of this is banking on there being no mutations that may increase the transmission or mortality rate.

It's going to be a long winter, no matter who wins the election.

 

How is quoting the CDC a fake report? So start with a strawman and then used that to discredit something you did not watch and have no idea what you speak of...

Typical.. No I am not surprised at all....

 

She is "terrorized" dont you know.....

 

So what has caused the 290,000 excess deaths this year or, if you want to believe the OP, the 10% increase in fatal heart attacks compared to previous years?

 

Do you have any reliable data stating there have been more fatal heart attacks in the last 8 months or just spouting nonsense?

 

Why are Flu deaths so far below normal? Dementia? Lung Cancer?

Have a nice day?

 

She said we are counting that as a covid-19 death. She never said that that was wrong ?

You're spreading propaganda. My analogy stands. You are saying that if you get shot thru the heart, the bullet didn't kill you, the hole in your heart did.

 

Heck no they didn't it's all about the money let's get real. If your getting paid x through Medicare thanks to the cares act. Bottom line when the DR's patient load ($$$) due to covid scare and this was a way to recoup some money. It wasn't illegal they listed the cause along with Covid the problem is Dem's use this in a political year to pretend their guy somehow would have stopped the deaths. It's designed for the ignorant voter who can't or won't look at the facts behind the numbers.

 

This.

It's no secret we're overcounting COVID deaths, and we've known it since the beginning.

I remember early on when stories were leaking about things like motorcycle fatalities and automobile crashes etc. being counted as COVID deaths. Back then it was sort of newsworthy ---- now we've sort of come to accept the inflated numbers, and take them with a grain of salt. The left wants a high death count, period, honesty or accuracy be damned in their war to politicize COVID ---- and the medical folks aren't exactly pushing back, since it can be financially beneficial to mislabel deaths as "COVID". So here we are. I don't know if we will EVER know the real numbers here, nor will we ever be able to have any REAL comparison worldwide because each country has their own variable approaches.

People also want to ignore all of the other things contributing to deaths right now, from suicide to excessive alcohol intake to overeating and not exercising while people sit in their houses, and then there are the people scared to go to the doctor so they're ignoring illnesses and symptoms and hiding in their houses........ But sure, label everything as COVID and keep keeping on, the sky is falling!

No, we're saying if you're shot thru the heart, COVID didn't kill you, the bullet did.

 

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