Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

It's not an enumerated right unless I've missed abortion somewhere in the Constitution. If anything, I would think that the baby's life would be an enumerated right per the fifth amendment since the baby is being deprived of life without due process.

With all that said, anyone that votes for a candidate or party based on where they stand on abortion rights is an idiot. There are much more important things going on. The only exception to that may be an abortion doctor where their livelyhood is decided by those laws. However, these idiots exist and it was pretty stupid of the GOP to start this war one the eve of their total destruction of the DNC in November.

 

Noted WH Idiot Karine Jean-Pierre Says It Was ‘Unconstitutional’ For Supreme Court To Overturn Roe. She just opens her mouth and words fall out.

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Cultists, as ignorant as they are confident: “After well over a decade of wokeness in our universities we now have a generation of intelligent, well educated progressives who have never had their holy views challenged. And boy does it show.”

Does anyone in this administration understand how the federal government works?

"Biden signed an executive order Wednesday calling on Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra to aid women crossing state lines to obtain abortions."

'Medicaid is taxpayer-funded, and the Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of taxpayer funds for abortions."

Kansas affirmed their status quo. Abortion legal until viability mostly prohibited afterwards.

 

Good post, you ask the right question.

But hospitals make decisions based on viability at 22-24 weeks. I’ve seen babies born in that time frame and they are clearly conscious, so consciousness occurs before that point.

One of my children was born at 24 weeks, looked like a fully formed tiny baby with translucent skin, needed no special care other than humidified air and a feeding tube, responded to touch and sound and needles when blood was drawn. Unquestionably a human being.

 

Actually it does, it bodes that abortion won't be an issue if the people are allowed to decide for themselves as SCOTUS intended. It also shows that GOP supporters are not the stereotype you presume.

 

It's none of the states business. If that's how you feel, sing that song to your wife, or daughter when they have to deal with an unwanted pregnancy.
Aside from the fact it's a fetus till its excluded from being called that, what policy do republicans pose that will assist unwanted children once born? Wilfully created or not.

Liberty included the right to the castle doctrine, seems you are opposed to that right as well?

 

Abortian can't affect wiilfully created children.
Children are by definition born. Now if you want to identify a fetus as a child, science be darned..you can do that. If we are now considering making policy to cater to the feels then be out with it.

 

this is not over. no culture war issue is ever over. the kansas repubs will continue to come up with new ideas and rebranding and crazy court cases until they put these uppity women in their place.

 

I understand what your saying but...as a pro-choice (not pro-abortion), I cannot but observe the fact that a large part of the Trump-dominated right is furiously radical against pro-choice.

 

The moment my wife and I decided we were done having children we...*gasp* did the responsabile thing and I got a vacectomy. Shocker I know.

See if we don't want to get pregnant, we found a way to make it impossible.

 

What does you having a vasectomy have to do with ur wife going through an unwanted pregnancy?

Like I said, you can sing that song to her when you know it isn't yours as well. It's a private affair one the state has no business handling unless she wants to prosecute the person who impregnated her.

Anecdotally I know a couple, whos husband had a vasectomy. Wife went to an after work party, didn't come home, next day she swears up and down she didn't know how she ended up in a hotel, but brushed it off cause she woke up alone...she missed her period the next month.

Would you tell her she wilfully wanted a child?

 

my tomato plants do seem to prefer mozart to metallica. am i aborting conscious beings when i slice a "better boy" for salad?

 

read your constitution. unenumerated rights are reserved to the people (amendment 9), who are guaranteed equal protection from their states (amendment 14).

 

It's spelled liberty.
Much the same way you won't find gun in the constitution either.
The castle doctrine give a woman the right to protect her liberty.

 

It's only a fetus till its excluded from being called that. Once born It begins its stages of life, starting with infant, or baby.
Babies can be born before 8 months, if they are wanted, or Induced to deal with the elements if the mother needs to before its viable. If it does not survive is that an abortion?

 

If wife got raped, we would immediatly be giving her the morning after pill. Next question?

 

That only works the morning after, and isn't 100%.
When it doesn't take, your next course of action when the state gets in you business since your wife used her ID to get the pill?

Oh and now ur business is public news cause this is in a red state and no doctor wants to risk their license.

 

In such a RARE and low probability chance, have the baby and give it up for adoption.

 

Lol, YOU won't be having anything, you mean attempt to force ur wife to go through that, with assistance from the state huh.
And if she does not comply, you would report her, or like the ability for men to be able to compel their woman through force of local authority?

You don't have to answer...we all know how this plays out.

The right answer was its up to her.

 

Why can't people just let woman decide for themselves to carry the rapists baby to put up for adoption or keep? It's not unheard of. Why do we need state law to monitor them?

 

Not a Court decision based upon the Constitution. Congressional legislation has no effect upon such decisions. The Kansas supreme court decision declared a state constitutional right to abortion and no Kansas legislation can undo that.

 

Nope. The Kansas state legislature in 2015 banned dialation and evacuation abortions, the procedure most often used in 2nd trimester abortions. And the Kansas Supreme court ruled that such a restriction violates the Kansas Constitutional right to abortion.

 

Problem is two fold however, it did turn out the vote but it was seperated as an issue. Women need to show up, vote and also hold Rs accountable for SCOTUS ruling, link the loss of rights to the RW.

Next, the Rs have ZERO SOLUTION and NO PLATFORM to deal with economic issues other that the blame game and blocking. Women need to show up in droves in November and vote their interests. Period!

 

She feels the same way I do...SHOCKER. Some women don't feel it neccessary to sacrifice a baby...

 

Hence why "It's up to her" would have been the right answer.
Why would you vote for someone that would take that right from her?

 

Because some groups of people decided it's MORALLY wrong. And not morally right? Duh? Like the death penalty. It's not up to the fed to decide such a sweeping opinion to force onto it's people.

the states are now allowed to decide how they want to handle abortion and when it can be allowed instead of that ideology forced.

The trans bullshit needs to be next because people fundemantally disagree with that as well.