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  1. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    You denied the facts I provided.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The fact
    and your dismissal.
    And now you want to change the topic of discussion. Your chart doesnt even show how many illegal immigrants are allowed into the US.
     
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    Nope. You have yet to post a fact.
    But if you think I did, repost your facts again. For I've never seen a single fact you've posted.

    I asked you the post before, you dodged and deflected, so here's another chance to present your facts.

    GO!!! Again.
     
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    A fox lies story from 3 unnamed, unquoted people is NOT a fact. It's a story.
    Yes, I dismiss lies. For some reason, you don't.

    My chart shows exactly the Same because it is the same chart posted this entire thread.

    You all went OT to make a fake claim about 85% of those apprehended are released into the country. With not a single shred of evidence to back it up except for an admitted liar in fox, posting a fake story.

    Who are the 3 people?
    What location in Eagle Pass was this so called meeting held?
    How many attended said meeting?
    What time was this said meeting?
    What day was this said meeting?

    I've asked the above questions several times. Each time you and other fake news posters deflect and run.
     
  5. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Do you need me to re-post the facts I already provided? Here it is again.

    https://www.fairus.org/legislation/...-immigration/2023-marks-highest-level-illegal

    Over the weekend, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) released new data showing that fiscal year 2023 now marks the highest level of illegal immigration in U.S. history. Over the past twelve months, CBP has encountered a stunning 3.2 million illegal aliens at our borders—more than all four years of the Trump Administration combined. The FY 2023 total represents a 16 percent increase over FY 2022 (2.76 million) and a 63 percent increase over FY 2021 (1.96 million).is
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Well, first your chart is nothing more than "Border Apprehensions" that says absolutely nothing about how many of those apprehended are released into the country with a notice to appear. Second the "fox lies story" is a news report. Regardless of what you have been brainwashed to believe by the 90% of media that leans so far left they frequently fall over on themselves. And it links to DHS data that confirms-

    "In October, nearly 237,000 were encountered, of which nearly 170,000 — 71% — were permitted into the country.

    November saw similar numbers — about 238,000 encountered — with about 177,000 or 74% being granted access to the US."
    Custody and Transfer Statistics | U.S. Customs and Border Protection (cbp.gov)

    December #s not yet complete but we know that December was the historical to that point National record high for Border encounters. The 74% released in November is because the border patrol becomes so overwhelmed and detention slots are all occupied, they have no choice but to quickly release them with a notice to appear. And you are convinced that it is an impossibility that December pushed it to 85% being released. Even though Border Patrol agents in a meeting with Mayorkas are reporting that he admitted that he wont be surprised if it is now up to 85%. Border patrol agents who would be crucified by this administration if they didnt remain anonymous in making the report of what was said. But the indoctrination has been too effective in your case. You can continue to believe that it is not as high as 85% being released
     
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    More facts liberals can deny

    https://cis.org/Arthur/Biden-Funneled-Nearly-14-Million-Illegal-Aliens-US-FY-2023-Alone


    Biden Funneled Nearly 1.4 Million Illegal Aliens into the U.S. — in FY 2023 Alone
    A completely separate illegal immigration system that dwarfs Congress’s lawful system



    https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-data-reveal-biden-administrations-failure-remove-over-99-released-illegal#:~:text=As of March 2023, DHS,through illegal categorical parole programs.

    New Data Reveal Biden Administration’s Failure to Remove Over 99% of Released Illegal Aliens, Fueling Border Crisis Concerns
     
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    Yes. That's the same data I've been posting.
    Apprehensions are up. That's not new. You and I agree. I did so the last time you posted the same data I did. You just use a different source to say the same thing I do. I used a chart also.

    What the lie is about is how many are let into USA.
    I didn't deny this post of yours earlier. It's the amount you falsely claim let into USA that is fake.
     
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    Of course it's only apprehensions. I've never said different.
    I've also never claimed how many are let in

    I don't believe 85%. Because fox lies. And it's 3 unnamed people at an unnamed meeting and time and place.
     
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    Indoctrination so complete you feared actually reading the "fox lies story"

    "..... three Border Patrol sources who were in the room and heard the remarks themselves."


    The conversation happened during the muster for agents in the busy border area. Fox is told Mayorkas was asked directly about comments he made on "Special Report" last week when he was asked by anchor Bret Baier about reporting that over 70% of migrants are released into the U.S. each day.


    Probably the same they have every Monday when the agents "muster" together.

    Ya got me there. Probably the regularly scheduled time for the Monday muster of agents at the beginning of a shift.


    "Fox is told that on Monday agents pushed him on those remarks, saying that the number is even higher than 70%,"
    "Published January 8, 2024 4:53pm EST"

    No, just nobody took the time to copy and paste what you refuse to read or believe. Really not much point in doing so in your case. Its a friggin discussion forum. Just read what is being discussed before you brand it a lie 5 times instead and "dismiss" it. Or at least dont demand answers to questions you can answer yourself if you just read what you so vehemently deny as a lie.
    I read your biased to the left sources being discussed here on the forum
     
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    You believe a fake story and make an ad hom attack about me being brainwashed?

    I believe in quotes, facts, data. I am not the one brainwashed by fox lies.

    What room were those 3 unnamed people in?
    What day were they in that unnamed room?
    What time were they there?
    Why were they there and who else was there?

    It's not remotely a real story. There's not a shred of detail about anything.
    You just believe fox lies.
     
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    Well actually I answered all your questions and suggested you were brainwashed. Its not an attack. The media has half the country brainwashed. They are very effective at what they do.
     
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    I also posted facts about how many are currently being released in the country with no accountability.
     
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    I gave you an article that quoted Mayorkas that over 85% of apprehended illegals are relesed into the US. Al you say about it is how FOX lies and you don't trust them. I have asked you to post an article from a source you trust that disputes that Mayorkas said that.
     
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    The person you are attempting to communicate with has an unusual ability to deny proven facts.
     
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    Documented facts


    • Between January 20, 2021, and March 31, 2023, there were over 5 million illegal alien encounters. Of these encounters, at least 2,464,424 had no confirmed departure from the United States.

    • During the same period, DHS released at least 2,148,738 illegal aliens into the United States.

    • Only 5,993 illegal aliens encountered at the southwest border and placed in removal proceedings before an immigration judge were actually removed from the United States during this time.

    • A mere six percent of illegal aliens released into the United States were even screened for fear of persecution for purposes of asylum.

    • As of March 2023, DHS had removed only 874 of the illegal aliens found to have a credible fear of persecution and whose claims were adjudicated on the merits and denied by an immigration judge.

    • An additional 205,473 aliens were released into the country through illegal categorical parole programs.
     
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    Does it make you feel better to believe it is 74% as reported by border patrol in November, and not the over 85% as reported by the 3 border agents for December?
     
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    No one that wants data and facts instead of lies and conspiracy theories is brainwashed.

    The brainwashed ones believe the lies and conspiracy theories.
    If you had facts and data or even a quote, you'd have presented it. But you can't. So you post what brainwashed people post, fox lies and conspiracy theories.
    Fox lies are effective at what they do.
     
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    Where's that link?
    I've seen no one post accurate info on how many are released into country.

    I've searched for that answer and can't find anything that could be considered credible. I think those numbers are not being reported.
     
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    No you did not.
    Post the link again and show the quote from Myorkis. Not some fake 3 unnamed people.

    As you claim above, it's that same tired fox lies story. No quote. No names. No time the meeting took place. Not a shred of detail in the entire story. The story itself doesn't even pertain to the claim it makes. It rants off into la la land.

    I can't dispute a claim that has never been made. Post a quote and then it can or can not be disputed. One can't dispute a lie.
    Give some real facts.
    Post a 2nd source to that claim, if it was said, there'd be multiple credible sources reporting on it. And don't post a relink to the same fox lies original.

    You're making a claim, you have to prove it's not a lie.
     
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    Only if you provide the border patrol data. I won't take yours or fox lies word for it.
    Are you now claiming fox lies did lie?
     
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    For crying out loud. I posted it at least twice.
     
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    You can't find an article disputing what I posted but you can find articles quoting Mayorkas. You made a counter claim and said you proved your point but you aren't backing what you said. Mayorkas said it and it's the truth.
     
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    Ok, here is Mayorkas himself speaking on this issue.
    https://nypost.com/2024/01/09/news/...-85-of-migrants-being-allowed-into-us-report/
     
  25. dairyair

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    Well link it again.
    It shouldn't be that difficult.
     

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