Why all this hate by the Left

It has been my experience that demonizing has been a tactic of the left for ever. Labor unions of the early 20th century were not content to publicize their wage demands, for example, but had to paint Henry Ford as the devil himself. The irony there as that as much as Ford was outspoken and made himself a target, he was the most generous of the automakers having even pioneered injury compensation and other benefits.

And, I think the Tea Party scares the hell out of a lot of people because they don't understand it...it is too far outside the mainstream of what America's political parties have become., Frankly, I think a lot of Republicans fear the Tea Party as well.

 

Of course, the irony is demonstrated by all the hate on the right on this thread.

 

Here's what the Tea Party believes:

#1 wouldn't affect anything. #2 apparently reflects a belief that reducing carbon emissions wouldn't reduce temperatures, which definitely doesn't fit my understanding of the science. #3's two-thirds-majority requirement would put up even more barriers for the government to respond to emergencies like recession and war. #4 sounds like a promising idea to me. #5 is largely meaningless. #6 would shrink the government more and more in relation to the economy until it becomes powerless. #7 apparently reflects a belief that the Affordable Care Act won't make health care more affordable, which certainly isn't what the CBO figures suggest. #8 is effectively a widespread repeal of environmental protections, which strikes me as a terrible idea. #9 is no longer relevant because it already happened. #10 is highly irresponsible given the massive national debt.

Add in some crazy fringe views (e.g. birtherism) and a lot of explicit and aggressive anti-intellectual and anti-complexity sentiment, and we have a movement that makes me and most other left-leaners facepalm.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/obama-death-panels-medicare/2010/12/26/id/381043

Good idea. the truth hurts. You rather spew you're "death camps" crap. When confronted with reality, you run for the hills. If you can't take the heat, stay outa the kitchen.

If you are covered, they have to take care of you under contract. When you BUY insurance, you have a CONTRACT with the company to cover what the CONTRACT states is covered. They don't get to pick who they cover and who they don't. They are bound by legal contract.

 

Did you actually read the article?

"The new provision, which goes into effect Jan. 1, allows Medicare to pay for voluntary counseling to help beneficiaries deal with the complex decisions families face when a loved one is approaching death. "

Guess not LOL

 

well, heres the headline

 

So after being proven wrong you STILL dont read the article?

LMAO talk about ignorance.

 

Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What They Believe

This is not from Fox News. This gives the views of the average Tea Partier, not some fanatic that has called himself one.

CBS News Poll analysis by the CBS News Polling Unit: Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Fred Backus and Anthony Salvanto.


CBS News and the New York Times surveyed 1,580 adults, including 881 self-identified Tea Party supporters, to get a snapshot of the Tea Party movement. There is a lot of information to unpack; let's begin with the demographics.


Eighteen percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters. The vast majority of them -- 89 percent -- are white. Just one percent is black.


They tend to skew older: Three in four are 45 years old or older, including 29 percent who are 65 plus. They are also more likely to be men (59 percent) than women (41 percent).


More than one in three (36 percent) hails from the South, far more than any other region. Twenty-five percent come from the West, 22 percent from the Midwest, and 18 percent from the northeast.

They are better educated than most Americans: 37 percent are college graduates, compared to 25 percent of Americans overall. They also have a higher-than-average household income, with 56 percent making more than $50,000 per year.


More than half (54 percent) identify as Republicans, and another 41 percent say they are independents. Just five percent call themselves Democrats, compared to 31 percent of adults nationwide.


Nearly three in four describe themselves as conservative, and 39 percent call themselves very conservative. Sixty percent say they always or usually vote Republican. Forty percent say the United States needs a third party, while 52 percent say it does not.


They are more likely than American adults overall to attend religious services weekly (38 percent do so) and to call themselves evangelical (39 percent). Sixty-one percent are Protestant, and another 22 percent are Catholic.


More than half -- 58 percent -- keep a gun in the household.

More than three in four Tea Party supporters (78 percent) have never attended a rally or donated to a group; most have also not visited a Tea Party Web site.


For the purposes of the poll, those who have attended a rally or donated to a group have been deemed Tea Party "activists." Four percent of Americans fall into this category.


Tea Party activists tend to be even angrier, more pessimistic about the country and more negative about President Obama than other Americans who identify as part of the Tea Party movement. For a breakdown of the beliefs of these activists, click here.

Fifty-three percent of Tea Party supporters describe themselves as "angry" about the way things are going in Washington, compared to 19 percent of Americans overall who say they are angry.


Asked what they are most angry about, the top four answers among Tea Party supporters who identify as angry were the health care reform bill (16 percent), the government not representing the people (14 percent), government spending (11 percent) and unemployment and the economy (8 percent).


More than nine in ten (92 percent) say America is on the wrong track, while just six percent say the country is headed in the right direction. Fifty-nine percent of Americans overall say the country is on the wrong track.


Eighty-eight percent disapprove of President Obama's performance on the job, compared to 40 percent of Americans overall. While half of Americans approve of Mr. Obama's job performance, just seven percent of Tea Party supporters say he is doing a good job.


Asked to volunteer what they don't like about Mr. Obama, the top answer, offered by 19 percent of Tea Party supporters, was that they just don't like him. Eleven percent said he is turning the country more toward socialism, ten percent cited his health care reform efforts, and nine percent said he is dishonest.


Seventy-seven percent describe Mr. Obama as "very liberal," compared to 31 percent of Americans overall. Fifty-six percent say the president's policies favor the poor, compared to 27 percent of Americans overall.


Sixty-four percent believe that the president has increased taxes for most Americans, despite the fact that the vast majority of Americans got a tax cut under the Obama administration. Thirty-four percent of the general public says the president has raised taxes on most Americans.



While most Americans (58 percent) say the president understands their needs and problems, just 24 percent of Tea Party supporters agree. Just one in five say the president shares the values of most Americans.


Only one percent of Tea Party supporters approve of the job Congress is doing, compared to 17 percent of Americans overall.


Twenty-four percent of Tea Party supporters say it is sometimes justified to take violent action against the government. That compares to 16 percent of Americans overall who say violence against the government is sometimes justified.


Sixty-three percent say they get the majority of their political and current events news on television from the Fox News Channel, compared to 23 percent of Americans overall. Forty-seven percent say television is their main source of Tea Party information, the top source; another 24 percent say they get Tea Party information from the internet.


Nearly half say the main goal of the movement is to reduce the role of the federal government, far outdistancing any other consideration. Just seven percent say the goal of the movement is to elect Tea Party candidates.


An overwhelming majority of Tea Party supporters, 84 percent, say the views of the Tea Party movement reflect the views of most Americans. But Americans overall disagree: Just 25 percent say the Tea Party movement reflects their beliefs, while 36 percent say it does not.


Socialism, The Birther Movement, and Tea Party Leaders


Ninety-two percent of Tea Party supporters believe President Obama's policies are moving the country toward socialism. Fifty-two percent of Americans overall share that belief.


Asked what socialism means, roughly half of Tea Party supporters volunteered government ownership or control, far more than any other answer. Eleven percent cited taking away rights or limiting freedom, and eight percent said it means the redistribution of wealth.


Thirty percent of Tea Party supporters believe Mr. Obama was born in another country, despite ample evidence to the contrary. Another 29 percent say they don't know. Twenty percent of Americans overall, one in five, believe the president was not born in the United States. (More on this part of the poll here.)



Tea Party supporters were asked in the poll what they thought of a few notable figures. The most popular was Sarah Palin, who is viewed favorably by 66 percent of people in the movement. Only 40 percent, however, believe she would be an effective president, a smaller percentage than Republicans overall.


Fifty-nine percent of Tea Party supporters have a favorable impression of Glenn Beck. Nearly as many, 57 percent, have a favorable impression of former President George W. Bush, despite his role in raising the deficit and overseeing TARP bailout of the financial sector.


Just 35 percent view John McCain favorably, and 28 percent view Ron Paul favorably. (More on this part of the poll here.)

Tea Party Supporters on the Issues


Tea Party supporters are more concerned with economic than social issues. Seventy-eight percent say economic issues are a bigger concern, while 14 percent point to social issues.


They are more likely than Republicans and Americans overall to see illegal immigration as a serious problem (82 percent), doubt the impact of global warming (66 percent) and call the bank bailout unnecessary (74 percent).

Fifty-three percent say the Roe v. Wade decision was a bad thing (compared to 34 percent of Americans overall), 40 percent oppose same-sex marriage and civil unions (compared to 30 percent overall) and 30 percent want gun control laws eased (compared to 16 percent overall).

(At left, watch CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds' report on the tea party and the poll.)

To long to post all. Read more.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002529-503544.html

 

whats this all about then? Why drop "death panels" from the overhaul?

 

You show me wich part of the text the democrats proposed contained death panels.

Instead of repeating like a parrot what others tell you, why dont you do a little bit of your own research?

 

Now I'm not a Tea Partier. Don't believe much like they do. But their beliefs sure shouldn't be the cause for the hate directed at them.

 

I would guess it would be the part they took out because of the political contaversy

So I guess I should ignore all the articals like this one that talk about "death panels" because the dems took that out of the bill so all is fine now. Have some more koolaid. Nothing to see here.

 

Now that Bush is gone, The left has all this hatred and nowhere to put it. Now they aim it at Tea Party people, Bankers(aka jews). Hate is a horrible thing to waiste

 

Why is it that the words that stand out in this post are "the tea party likes low-hanging fruit".
Was that perhaps a Freudian slip?

 

I would guess, well that sums up what you know : nothing just parroting what others tell you to say.

 

i feel u are projecting. Them dirty, racist **********s just made that "death panel" stuff up cuz they hate The Obama because he's black. Thats what you "believe" right?

 

Both sides display sickening amounts of hate and quite honestly its turned me off to all manner of politics. Its unAmerican to act the way some people do.

 

No, I see not one shred of evidence of death panels in health care. Thats why I asked if you read the article, it also has got not one shred of evidence on death panels.

The only death panel I know is in the criminal system, do you oppose that death panel as well?


As for the thea party, they are misguided and used, something to pitty not hate.

 

The tea party is a bunch of radical christians(that don't obey half of ther sacred book, but whatever), employers that rant against whatever that won't benefit themselves. A bunch o people that won't tolerate different ideas, and will ban many behaviours or don't recognize them like equals.

That is the image that is selling today the Tea Party. The Tea Party maybe was acceptable when Ron Paul created it, but now is a reactionary movement. And the reaction never is good. And also they are demanding as solutions the things that have taken us to this situation.

 

I think its mostly because the TEA partly claims to be only about fiscal responsibilty but in reality their narrative has turned out to be more about Social Issues with strong religious tones.

 

I oppose the Tea Party because they serve the interests of the elite, and oppose societal progress. They are a dangerous incarnation of the fringe right in America.

 

The Tea Party claim to be against corporatism, but in reality they are just tools for a section of the ruling class. They are funded by the three billionaires. They claim to be about freedom, but they want to stop all sorts of people having freedom. Like women choosing abortion or gays getting married. They are mean, they started when some bloke complained about the government helping a few people who were losing their homes. They never moaned when Bush bailed out the banks.

 

That image came from Democrats, not the majority of people in the Tea Party. As the poll shows, most have never even been to a Tea party web site. Most have never even deminstrated. They are a bunch of people that think we spend way beyond our means and government has gotten to intrusive in our lives.

The thing that got us into this mess was our own government. look and see.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...15-whos-responsible-killing-middle-class.html

 

The Democrats are trash, and pro-corporative.

But the Tea Party is pro-corporative too, and with more dangerous ideas. The Tea Party presented themselves as closer to libertarian ideas, but now are a bunch of conservative with repressive and reactionary ideas. That is the problem.

If you're not conservative you shouldn't support the Tea Party.

 

don't blame the Tea Party if your mind sees racism everywhere; that's in YOUR head, your racism

when someone makes an entire movie about Obama's assassination to accolades from the Right, I'll pay attention to your complaints but since I didn't hear that much whining when they did it to Bush, I am not too concerned about people speaking out against the current admin.

like the Progressives that want us to give up our electric light bulbs, our cars, etc?

yes because getting bankrolled by a Nazi collaborator is SO much better, right?

as compared to someone like Pelosi that has made millions cutting deals for her friends and faking terror at the sight of old women in lawn chairs?

compared to the jingoistic nonsense the Left spurts about 'fairness' when that fairness simply provides the conduit for the greedy to steal that which they didn't earn...


see? every point you are so opposed to about the Tea Party is mirrored by your own party...you hate the Tea Party because you see your opposite there.