Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Bluesguy, Sep 29, 2011.
Wouldn't bother me at all... you'd lose that bet.
Yes racial and religious discrimination are treated equally under the law.
Who said he said he would deny service, he gives a better price to Christians as opposed to Jews and Muslims.
U.S. Civil Rights laws, are you asserting I can charge Blacks $10 for hamburger and Whites $1 and not be charged with a Civil Rights Violation?
As long as they do not discriminate based on race, religion or sex.
Let me know when that becomes a protected class under US Civil Rights law.
Under the law it is.
Yes a conservative, one of the most on this board. But the law is the law.
LOL, I thought of you this morning, Bluesguy. When I opened a carton of eggs and saw this verse printed on the inside:
"This is the day the LORD has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it." Psalm 118:24
Does that bother you?
The law isn't being violated, only your hatred for all things religious.
You aren't a conservative. You're like Mitt Romney. You play the notes but don't hear the music.
I would quote it if I wanted his discount.
It's his business, he is under no obligation to provide a discount, it is entirely a fair exchange. If he were the only guy in town to provide this service then I'd say it was coercive.
To be fair, if it was a Muslim owned business offering the same type of deal I would not have a problem with it either.
How about if he required persons to read a card that said "Blacks are inferior to whites and should go back to the jungle"? I mean you don't have to believe it just say it. Or "Jews are the devils people"?
I wouldn't take his discount.
Simple as that.
Did you read how much he charges if you don't?
You didn't respond to this post, but nevertheless, let me tell you how their marketing works.
I saw this verse on the inside of my carton of eggs and smiled. Then I remembered I bought the eggs @ Aldi. Made me glad I shop at Aldi's because they allow their producers to include Bible verses on their packaging.
Good for them.
It's regular price. What he always charges when he isn't running a sale.
Are you trying to say he charges more than regular price if you don't recite the verse?
Sorry I missed it. Did they require you to read it in order to get a better price? Did they require you to declare that Allah is the true God and only through him do you go to heaven else charge you double for the eggs.
Apples and oranges.
So go to his competition or for gods sakes do it yourself.
Are you helpless or just so hooked on the victim mentality you can't even think much less act in your own behalf.
Same thing... marketing your faith. No law against it. That seems to be what bothers you the most, huh?
It is the manner in which he is doing it...............apples and oranges as I pointed out the differences.
You didn't answer my questions, were you required to recite the verse at check out else pay a higher price for them?
Actually, I was required to accept the verse on my carton to get the lower price... at Aldi. They only sell eggs from one producer. My alternative would be to shop at another store, where I'd no doubt pay more for eggs than at Aldi.
Isn't this equally unfair to their muslim customers?
I once went to apply to a Christian credit union. They informed me that my church had to be part of the network. My church wasn't. They gave me a form to give to my pastor to sign up for the network. It required subscribing to a certain platform of beliefs that catered to Protestants. I knew my Catholic priest wasn't going to sign such a form so I left. I also knew that there were plenty of other credit unions where I could take my business.
Now, what did I not do?
I didn't whine about it by starting a thread on a discussion forum
I didn't file a discrimination lawsuit
I didn't picket in front of their office
I didn't go around telling everyone I was a victim
I didn't call up the attorney general to try to get them shut down
I don't follow, you had a choice of either getting the carton without the phrase at one price and getting the carton with the phrase at a lower price?
And were you required to read it out loud at checkout in order to get a lower price?
No... I had no choice. Aldi's only sells one brand of eggs. The ones with the scripture. Wanna make another thread?
Exactly. The same thing any normal person would do. Don't like the philosophy of who you're doing business with? Find somebody else.
You implied it when you said:
Neither was appropriate because he never excluded anyone from service, or even from the discount.
This policy in no way discriminated against or for any religion. All it did was give a discount for quoting a phrase. Quoting that phrase can be done by anyone from any religion. Quoting the phrase won't magically make you be any religion or make you stop being any religion.
I'm not muslim but I've quoted Shahada. I'm not catholic but I've quoted the Hail Mary. Both came up during discussion of religions. It is very hard to discuss any religion without quoting their texts, but doing so doesn't change your religion.
This whole thread is just another example of whining by someone who seems to believe that freedom of religion should mean freedom FROM religion.
how is this any different than Ballparks offering free bobble heads to the first 3,000 fans that show up? or getting a $1 off a ticket for the fair if you bring in a canned food to donate?
face it, people get discounts for any and everything these days, certain clientele get discounts simply because of being good repeat customers.
whats the friggin big deal?
You seem to be dancing around the question here, please focus, were there two different price levels AT THAT STORE, one if you read the verse at check out and a higher one if you did not. Has nothing to do with whether another store has a higher price or a lower price. Did THIS store discriminate in it's pricing offering different price if you recited a bible verse?
And I bet they were a non-profit and considered a ministry. Non-profit credit unions can be set up to cater to certain groups and restrict membership to such groups, including religious organizations.
Another stretch, this guy is a for profit open to the public business. Like the lunch counter.
And did they offer a lower price if you read the verse or charge you more for one without it? Where is the price discrimination?
If this guy at the auto repair prints a verse on the bill, I have no complaint or issue. Apples and oranges.
Are you raising a white flag or something?
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