‘I am seeking justice’: Tulsa massacre survivor, 107, testifies to US Congress

They were there for a lynching. He was accused of grabbing her arm, not of rape. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.

 

I suggest you read the link. The first person killed was a white man shot by a stray bullet then two white men shot through the head and the other a black man dead from another black man who refused to comply with a sheriffs deputy:

• A white man (James Greeson?) killed by a stray shot through the head (Tulsa Tribune, 1 June 1921). At least one black was injured as Det. E.S. MacQueen began firing into them (Tulsa Tribune, 1 June 1921).
• Fighting breaks out – [ by a shot from “Johnny Cole”, and Andy Brown] [- 2 wounded. Negroes taken to police station. At least one expected to die.] (Tulsa World, 1 June – 1st edition).1 injured Negro at police Station -expected to die. 2 were injured in initial shooting.
  2 white men killed, shot through the head. In first shooting? Curd Miller was hit in this exchange, taken to the hospital and released (Tulsa World, 1 June – 1st edition).
• Gurley then drove to the Courthouse and offered his help to the Sheriff, when 40-50 people marched up, led by two brothers named Mann, Jake Mayes, and a man named Anderson. Gurley says Mann fired the first shot. (Tulsa Tribune, 4 June 1921).
• First one shot, then three triggered the battle. Four white “lynchers” died, and many more were wounded. (A. J. Smitherman’s “The Tulsa Race Riot and Massacre”)
• The ‘spark’ that touched off the riot was an incident between a white deputy and an armed black man outside the courthouse. The deputy was attempting to disarm one of the blacks when the gun for which they were wrestling discharged. The following is account collated from the several different versions of what happened. The most informative accounts are in the Tulsa World, 1 June 1921; Tulsa Tribune, 1 June 1921; and Ellsworth, 52. John McQueen, a white deputy, approached Johnny Cole, an armed black veteran who was leaning in an open automobile doorway. Indicating the army issue .45 Colt automatic that Cole was holding, McQueen asked,
  “******, What are you doing with that pistol?”
  “I a.m. going to use it, if I need to.” Cody replied.
  “No, you’ll give it to me.” The deputy reached for the weapon.
  “Like Hell I will.” was Cody’s response. As they wrestled for the pistol it discharged, striking Andy Brown, a black man, in the chest, and killing him (or wounding him, with him dying later, either on the street because no one would let ambulances near him – or later in the Police Station).

 

Surprise surprise. It was all kicked off by a black man who refused to obey a lawful order from an officer. Damn that sounds familiar.

 

I suggest you read your own link. It doesn't refute what I said about the lynch mob or the fake "rape" accusation. Meanwhile, try reading the final bullet. The author is listing things out of order. "The 'spark' that touched off the riot" was when the white deputy tried to illegally rob one of the defenders of his 2A rights. During the struggle, it was a black man who was killed, not a white man.

 

There you go again with your false belief that the 2nd Amendement has a melanin exception.

Also, funny how you only care about "lawful orders" when it comes to black people. You don't seem to care about the lynch mob.

 

Excuse you if an officer tells you to give him your firearm you have a lawful obligation to do so. You do NOT have a constitutional right to fight with the deputy and cause the murder of someone which kicks off a riot.

 

Deputies do not have unlimited authority. Sure, they can make you surrender your firearm if they are arresting you or if they have some kind of probable cause. They can't steal a weapon that you are carrying for protection just because you are a n****r.

 

No sir. Any officer has the right to request your firearm, especially if you’re brandishing it in public and staying “im going to use it if I have to”. And you have an obligation to provide said firearm. No matter what color you or the officer are. And he does NOT have to arrest you or charge you in order to force your compliance.

 

Unless open carry was illegal in Oklahoma at the time ($10 says it wasn't), no, they can't. Unless I'm being arrested or detained, he has no more right to deprive me of my rights than any other person on the street. Yes, even if I have dark skin and curly hair.

Police do not have unlimited authority to "force your compliance." Though it is really fun to see those authoritarian colors showing.

 

Are these excerpts from the same newspaper who called for lynching the guy who stepped on the white woman’s dress?

 

Though I don't necessarily distrust the local newspapers at that time, I don't necessarily trust them either. The elevator incident and violence outside the courthouse are of course relevant, but it's the aftermath that is the focus here. An innocent 7 year old girl was forced from her home and life. Her future was taken away from her.

The preceding events are important, for several reasons, but nothing excuses this:






Bad. Don't look.

No excuse for covering it up, either, which was remarkably successful for 70 years.

How the Tulsa Race Massacre Was Covered Up - HISTORY

 

And you ignore the fact that Trump said a lot of racist things. And yet for all of those things you fail some simple tests. You can have a job sure, but that doesn't give you hope in tomorrow. Pretty hard to say you support African Americans when the issues are on police brutality.

 

That’s not accurate.

“A law enforcement officer may take temporary possession of the weapon during interaction with the individual to ensure the safety of the officer and others. The police officer will return the pistol at the end of the stop unless the individual is being charged with a violation of the act or any other law that allows for the weapon to be seized.

 

Joe Biden has said far far far more racist things than Donald Trump and it's not even close, but here you are ignoring reality.

 

I’m not saying anything excuses it because it doesn’t. However to paint this as just some random act of a bunch of racist white people waking up one day, saying hey let’s go kill a bunch of black people and burn their houses down. Who then proceeded to create a mob and burn down “Black Wall Street” in order to make it sound like it was solely predicated on just hateful racist white people attacking poor ole innocent black people.

That is nothing more than complete and utter historical revisionist propaganda.

 

Not a contemporary source, plus:
"At the end of the stop"

What do you think a stop is? It's a detainment. You have to have probable cause to stop/detain.

 

The VP of the First African American President vs "Obama is a Kenyan citizen, (ie he's not American)" Trump. No offense but your posturing looks really bad.

 

Mind showing me a contemporary source that says a law officer didn’t have the right to do what he did?

This was 1921, he didn’t need probable cause to stop you and ask for your gun.

 

Even if you were right about everything else you had said, your excuse still makes no sense. If they targeted black people for the actions of other black people, then yes, it was a bunch of racist white people creating a mob and burning it down, and it was predicated on racism. And yes, despite your desire to mock the death of innocent black people, including women and children, these were "poor ole innocent black people."

 

You are the one trying to justify this racist, so mind showing me a contemporary source saying he had such a right? Where's your proof that this black man had no 2nd Amendment or 4th Amendment rights or right to due process?

 

No if you would actually read the whole thing, once the black veterans fired on the whites they retreated through the course of the night in what was a gun battle. They retreated all the way to black Wall Street where they set up defensive positions including snipers. In order to get them out, fires were started resulting in most of the place being burnt down.

This wasn’t a rampaging white mob through a defenseless black neighborhood. This was a group of armed men taking defensive positions in homes, stores and churches and firing upon their adversaries. Resulting in them getting their asses handed to them and the town, WHICH THEY WERE USING FOR COVER, being burnt to the ground.

 

But yes let’s paint this as some rando act of racist violence which burnt down the town. Cause whitey just hated black people.

 

Association does not take away from the racist Joe Biden statements and actions. You don't get to erase history and give scumbags like China Joe a pass.

 

If that's what you need to tell yourself, fine. They had to murder children for, I dunno, reasons. Can't have people firing guns in self defense, after all.

 

I don't see it being presented that way. They were a racist white mob, whose daily lives reflected hatred, but they didn't just wake up one day and realize this. They had a reason. And they didn't just wake up one day with that reason, either.

Negro males cannot touch white females. Even looking at them may get a negro killed. That's what started the riot.

Apparently, if a negro male comes into possession of a counterfeit $20 bill, it's okay to kill him, and if a negro male touches a white woman, it's okay to kill all of 'em.