10 things debunkers can never ever explain

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  1. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    You don't know the definintion of the word, means "explanation".
     
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    When you can write a cogent sentence I'll respond to it.
     
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    Think that might have something to do with the towers being damaged near the top and wtc7s damage being near the bottom?
     
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    Too far over your head, no suprise there. Pssst, I am whiter than you and do not represent anyone other myself, just like you, that clear enough for ya.
     
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    That doesn't matter. NIST says it fell due to fire.;) If we take the bulge you mention as the cause for the collapse then it would have meant a lean in that direction, right? But what happened is far from that. It would have meant half of the building or so would have remained standing like the 22 story WTC 3...
     
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    And so it did.
     
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    Not neccessarily. I would suspect a bulge in he exterior would indicate the interior structure is pulling down the exterior, causing it to buge out.
     
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    Sorry....I somehow missed your post.

    This is a link to a video of Operation Burnt Frost.

    LINK...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDqNjnUNUl8

    This is a video of the use of an SM-3 fired from a Ticonderoga Class Aegis Cruiser.

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. holston

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    No I don't.
     
  10. holston

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    Jews are "white". At least the Ashkenazim/Khazar variety are. That is what they say.
    But they're not really Jews at all, not in the racial sense. That is, not in the sense that they are physical descendents of the ancient tribe of Israel, which is the basis for all their false claims.

    Shephardic Jews on the other hand are actual Semites. However there has been so much race mixing that one can find a mixture of everything imaginable.

    But THAT is not the root of the problem. The problems stem from the Talmudic teachings of JudaISM.

    Somehow those people miss that point when I try to explain it to them. If you are critical of the activities of Jews/Zionists they will call you a "racist". If you mention the racial component from which some of THEIR bigotry emerges, then they will say that a "Jew" is just someone who practices, or claims to believe in, the Jewish religion.
    This variable and ambiguous meaning they attach to the word provides them a convenient means of equivocation.

    You may have noticed that on many forms, including the CENSUS, there are blocks provided to check for every race BUT the Jewish one. They may choose to select "other" but seldom if ever do. In this way the Jewish population may be counted only from those who are "official" Jews, ie those who attend a Synagogue or on the rosters somewhere.
    Therefore the Jewish population is officially acknowledged to be around 2 to 3%. In fact there are far many more people in the US which are of the Ashkenazim/Khazar extraction. Many if not most of them may be found within "Christian" institutions.
    The myth that Jews are a persecuted minority serves them very well. In the first place it gives the "gentile" population the notion that Jews constitute a harmless minority which couldn't wreak havoc on an economy , surreptitiously take charge of the nucleus of a government, or alter the demographic base of a country if they tried.

    Although the erroneous notion that the Jewish socio-political coalition is benign is commonly held, the fact that Jews have bragged on occasion about their success in overtaking "gentile" institutions contradicts the assumption that their Marxist and Supremacist philosophies pose no threat to the US as it was founded. The majority of the non-Jewish population remains in the dark on the subject.
    The Hasbara work to keep them there.

    This is why the movement for 9/11 truth has been relentlessly assailed by the media and online. It would be very bad for public relations if the truth of Israeli/Zionist involvement became widely known.

    It reflects poorly on the Jewish community at large that they would all work so hard together to suppress this knowledge. It also betrays a lack of trust on their part for the greater non-Jewish population.

    For the minute anyone mentions the mass of circumstantial evidence which strongly suggests Israeli/Zionist foreknowledge of the attacks, and their hand in guaranteeing it's success, then out come the Hasbarats jeering, scoffing, name calling, lying, and accusing everyone who isn't in lock step with the Kosher approved version of 9/11 as being "anti-semitic" or a "Nazi", whatever that is.


    This kind of behavior on the part of those Jews who were NOT involved in 9/11 in any way, shape, or form, causes me in turn to distrust them in general as well.
    The majority of them seem to either fear some form of social repercussions which might jeopardize their favored status in society, or else they are willing to go along with ANYTHING as long as it is perceived as being good for the Jewish community.

    People have called ME "paranoid" for mentioning this aspect of their tribal behavior. I would say that those among them who are afraid of the truth about 9/11 being exposed are themselves paranoid for believing that after all this country has provided to them that somehow the ghost of Hitler would rise from the ashes of the Third Reich and do them all in.

    Because of this fixation they have about "anti-semitism" being every where ready to spring up, they are willing to sacrifice justice itself and do all they can to impede others who are in pursuit of it.

    This is not about trying to scapegoat anyone in particular. It is about placing the principles of truth above some peoples desire for security and to maintain a social and economic edge over others.

    As many "white gentiles" as there are in this country who break the law by committing grand larceny and murder, I would be just as zealous about preventing those people from being in charge of the fate of the US as I would any other.

    Wouldn't you?
     
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    This is absurd. No more fire than was in building 7 could not possibly have caused the sudden and complete collapse as it was seen.

    The only way you can even possibly lend any credence to this argument at all is to base the explanation on a COMBINATION of fire AND damage. Otherwise the NIST hypothesis is shown to be the cover up it was.

    Neither the amount of fire OR damage alone in either building 7 or towers one and two was sufficient to cause the total destruction which was observed.

    The only CONCEIVABLE explanation (excuse) would require a synergism between the two factors in order to even be plausible.

    You can't convince me of even that for the simple reason that even one such instance resulting in the manner of a controlled demolition would be something of a fluke, and THREE such instances of it in one day defies the laws of probability.
    When you combine that with they odds that all of the "coincidental" occurrences would elide to make a conspiracy of sorts more likely, the only reasonable conclusion is that there was foreknowledge of the attacks which allowed the conspirators to ensure that the buildings were totally destroyed.
     
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    Hmmmm....last time I checked being a JEW specifies RELIGIOUS BELIEFS...not Race, Nationality or Skin Color.

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    Exactly!

    So what we are dealing with here is a toxic ideology like Marxism only worse.

    Therefore this is NOT a racial issue insofar as people living in peace on this planet without taking undue advantages over others. But THAT has never hindered the internet Hasbara from calling me an "anti-Semite" and a Nazi for questioning the authority of the Federal Reserve, the IMF, AIPAC, OR the 9/11 Commission among other organizations which share the Zionist dream of a One World government under Jewish jurisdiction.

    Such an arrangement would entail the elimination of US sovereignty right along with the authority of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights regardless of whether you want to call it a "One World Government" or the Masshianic Age.
    I call it tyranny.



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    WOW!!

    Really?

    You can't be serious?

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    Not me. I think it is a stupid idea, but the priesty pranksters of Chabbad Lubavitch, the Jewish WORLD Congress, and the rest of their followers are VERY serious.

    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Theology/Afterlife_and_Messiah/Messianism/The_Messianic_Age.shtml

    Note the use of the designation "CE" which Jews are fond of in order to avoid references to the "accursed name". Need I say what?
    They understand that every time anyone uses the name, it tacitly confirms the historical reality of his existence, something else they would love very much to discredit and debunk.

    Observe the reference to the book of Sanhedrin which demonstrates that modern Jews DO use the Talmud as their guide and authority.

    They are already going about insuring that there are "informers" everywhere.

    There's no doubt that the Jewish deals cut with the Shabbos Goyim of our Congress and the exploitation of "JUDEO 'Christian' Zionism" is indeed a form of "collaboration with the enemy".


    More Talmudic crap.
    It isn't that I would convert to Judaism if they offered me a million bucks. But there are plenty of Shicksa Hoes and other official prostitutes who would eagerly do so.It wouldn't even take that much, just a spot on TV or a cameo in a movie, far less even. The number of people willing to sell their souls for a pittance of what it's worth is mind numbing.
    No doubt they are carefully selected. You might say chosen if you prefer. However that would suggest that a great many of their "converts" were not really "chosen" by G-d at all as they would have us believe, but rather the Jews took it upon themselves to do the choosing.

    This comes as no surprise to me since they "chose" themselves to begin with. For there's not a mother's son among them that can PROVE any lineage to Abraham. They'd have a harder time PROVING THAT than I would that buildings 1, 2, and 7 came down as the result of CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS.

    But then THEY don't have to "prove" anything , do they? Hell , they don't have to account for the facts or even answer a straight question. And the "twoofers " can't do anything about it anyway, with or without proof.
    So why do you even bother to deny it?
    Is it because the coming "Mashianic" age is NOT as sure of a thing as your host of believers and atheists would like for it to be? And perhaps you are a little bit uneasy about what might happen if the news really got out.
     
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    Hmmm...well...I never did go for Religion Based Conspiracy Theories.

    In my experience there are LUNATICS in every Religion that go on and on about how what they believe to be an apposing Religion is up to.

    Personally....I have never trusted ANYONE with extreme specific Religious Beliefs as such people remind me of little children afraid of the dark and blaming their siblings for wrongs that they believe might interfere with Presents from Santa.

    What a wonderful world it would be if people could just DUMP their ridiculous ridiculous religious dogma and THINK FOR THEMSELVES.

    But hey....that would actually involve taking responsibility for their own actions....and when a group of people have been indoctrinated their whole life into making excuses and making people of other religious beliefs the scapegoat and even actually thinking that there exists a DEVIL that...MADE THEM DO IT....well....such people are truly lost.

    I pity them.

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    The FDNY disagrees with you. I think I'll take their word over yours, Rabbi.
     
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    Of course you dont. Your views are in spite of the reality.
     
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    So you agree with me that the Jews are paranoid when they try to frame everyone who disagrees with them is "conspiring against them" and is a Nazi or an "anti-Semite".

    I'm glad that we could reach an agreement on at least this one thing.

    And you also agree with me that the militants at Chabbad Lubavitch and other Jewish Supremacist organization are religious nuts and that murderers and thieves have no one but themselves to blame for their crimes, not even Islamic Jihadists.
     
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    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm


    Silly Rabbi, tricks are for Yids.

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    I don't what?
     
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    But still... NIST says it fell because of fire. And they are the only official scientific investigative body in the US to have studied the scientific aspects of the event...

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    Then why did you show me a picture of the damaged WTC7 corner in the beginning??
     
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    Because of your ignorant claim that WTC7 sustained no damage.

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    So you agree that the FDNY knew that WTC7 would collapse due to the fires.
    Very good, Rabbi.
     
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    Oh I never questioned whether the police at the scene KNEW that 7 was about to collapse.

    The question I have about them is HOW they managed to predict the collapse with such uncanny accuracy that witnesses on the scene were instructed by them to move back because "This building is about to come down", one witness of which declared that he heard a count-down "3, 2, 1" over a walkie-talkie.
     
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    I can think of one other thing which DeBunkers never can explain, and that is why they find it so necessary to attack all those questioning the Kosher account of 9/11 with such violence that they would spend so much time chasing them down on the net to harass and call them names.
     
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    Because the building was creaking, leaning and in obvious distress, all according to the FDNY. (That's the fire dept., not the police.)

    What countdown was that, Rabbi? Link please. (I'm betting it was the Red Cross complicity fantasy 'truthers' invented, but let's see your link)

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    Chasing them down? Lol ... You came here. No chasing needed.
     

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