10 things debunkers can never ever explain

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Youll need to keep track of your own (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Well, first, you made up the (*)(*)(*)(*) about a countdown on the walky talky because you have no evidence unless you make it up, and, they knew it was coming down because,

     
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    You need to be clear about what you mean.

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    That was the report given by an eye witness.
     
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    Link to this report, please. (If it exists.)
     
  5. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Yes it didn't. It could do well despite the column sections missing from that corner. Remember... these types of buildings have a lot of structural redundancy. That part of that corner was less than 1% of the building.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I meant exactly what you meant. If what you meant isn't clear to you. That's a personal problem.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The corner damage was minimal. Most all the damage was to the face of the building, but of course, that's why you want to focus upon the corner.
     
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    No, It did.
     
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    Sounds like damage to me. And Boyle doesn't sound Jewish.
     
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    You've seen the videos before. Stop pretending you haven't.

    Youskys do this with everything. No matter how many times you've had it thrust in your face you still pretend you aren't aware of it.


    [video=youtube;b4z-Wrp1pY8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4z-Wrp1pY8[/video]

    Now you call him a nut and say his word isn't reliable just like you do everyone else whose witness contradicted the Kosher story.

    One thing you can ridicule if you want to is the corny music that was tacked on to the end of this film by some dorky Hasbarat or whatever.

    We know who the sponsors were behind this "terrorist" attack and they haven't had to answer to a thing.
    Israel never does, thanks to the Jewish lobbies, the JUDEO ZogBot xtians, and all the other nit wits who serve them like their God's anointed ones.
     
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    I knew it: the 'Red Cross is in on it' video.
    So you side with Kevin, who claims the Red Cross detonated the buildings? And you DON'T think he's nuts? :roflol:
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Hes an un named, unknown man standing on a street talking on a video. And video of the collapse with audio contradict his claims.
     
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    Mod Edit ~ Flame Baiting/Derailment. bld 7 is the crux of the 9/11 coverup they NEVER have any answers for.in all my years when i have brought this point up,they have NEVER had an answer for it on any message board when you bring up the fact that bld 7 was not hit by an airliner yet it collapsed as well just like the towers and other buildings that were MUCH closer to the towers as the one you just showed in your pic,had FAR MORE SEVERE DAMAGE TO THEM AND FAR MORE SERIOUS FIRES THAN BLD 7 DID,YET THEY DID NOT COLLAPSE.

    the coincidence theorists on here that worship the governments explanation
    are indeed coincidence theorists because they swallow the lies of the government hook,line,and sinker that the fires caused the collapse of them with no evidence to support it and swallow the COINCIDENCE THEORY of the governments,that the only 3 buildings that collapsed that day were all owned by zionist jew larry silverstein.if they were not owned by silverstein,they did not collapse.
     
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    He convienetely forgets to mention that the things he says have been explained, have been debunked by truthers.lol.
     
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    Like I just got done saying,all they ever do is refer back to debunked things just like you just got done posting.Like you just posted in big black letters,all those links he posted are garbage of the governments and has all been debunked so as always,they never have any answers.None that are truthful anyways.:roll:

    Mod Edit ~ Focus on the topic. Stop the innuendo and baiting.
     
  16. Vlad Ivx

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    Do you realize that you and others are talking about WTC7 as if it was made up of wood? But even wood structures have a lot of structural redundancy. Structural redundancy... All buildings are built in that way, especially a skyscraper like WTC7 which was very modern, a 1980s era building. This is structural redundancy:

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    The whole corner of the building is gone. Look at the debris field:

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    Then check out one building that was blown up only partially for experimental purposes:

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    As you can see, the 5th floor carries all by itself a much greater load than it is supposed to be.
     
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    SHow me an interactive animation of the damaged building and I'll focus on everything.
     
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    You're pretending that those buildings were constructed in a similar fashion to WTC7.
    Stop that.
     
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    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    No, they weren't indeed. They were far worse, simplistic designs. WTC7 is not a castle of cards. It's not like you add one card or remove one and it falls apart...
     
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    You dont have a clue Building One, Two, Four, and Five were leased by Silverstein
     
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    4 and 5 were not tall enough so he didn't give a fack. :clapping:
     
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    There are Orthodox Jewish Religious Fanatics just as there are Christian and Muslim Religious Fanatics.

    A Religious Fanatic is the same as any Religious Fanatic they think that all Christian's or all Jews or all Muslims...etc...are conspiring against them.

    I have a friend who/s Dad is CERTAIN that the Jew's and the Muslim's are teaming up to kill all Christian's!!! LOL!!

    Such talk is crazy!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You know that he never said that.

    When you say a person said something that you know they didn't say, what does that make you? I'll give you a hint; It isn't a nut.

    What he did say is that he heard a countdown "3, 2, 1" over a walkie talkie immediately preceding the collapse of building 7. And like over a hundred other WITNESSES that day, he also said he heard what sounded like explosions, not merely the sound of collapsing buildings.

    A lot of other people believed that these sounds were due to explosions and not the sounds of the collapsing building.
    Indeed, there is audio available of sounds which are certifiably those of explosions. Since even YOU cannot deny that they are sounds of explosions, you try to explain them all in terms of generators, transformers, gas canisters and other such items.

    But none of this explains why so many people who were undoubtedly aware of the existence of such things and that they could explode under the right conditions, INCLUDING agents of the FBI, which originally relaid to the press that their working theory was that EXPLOSIVES or BOMBS had been detonated IN THE BASEMENTS of the buildings, were so insistent that there "were bombs going off." NIST said that there couldn't have been "because people would have heard them". Now THAT's laughable.

    Why would all these people continue to express their belief that those sounds were explosions of the kind which a bomb would make, especially the firemen who said the same thing?
    Do you not think that any of those firemen had ever heard the sound of an exploding transformer or a gas canister?

    I might be persuaded to think that a person here or there could make these kinds of mistakes in judgement, but hundreds? Seeing flashes of lights? Or smelling cordite as some witnessed they did at the Pentagon?

    You never did tell me exactly how many transformers there were in the WTC bldgs or where they were all located?

    If you don't know then why not admit it?

    And if you do know then why not tell us? And tell us how they all managed to explode if they were located in places where the fire from the impact zones could not have possibly have reached them.

    The fact remains that you really have no answers to any of these question nor a thousand others just like them. What you do have is a bunch of THEORIES, most of which were gathered from others whose job it was to explain the disaster solely in terms of 19 Arabs with box cutters.
    What makes your disingenuity so obvious is that you never admit that none of these theories have been proven, and that the believability of them all hangs on the logical fallacy of Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc to wit:

    Event C happened immediately prior to event E.
    Therefore, C caused E.

    Youskys lost the debate a long time ago. All you have left to uphold your position is the Zionist Organizational Government, the power of the military industrial complex, and the Jewish controlled media.
     
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    Ah, but he did. Kevin McPadden is on record saying that the FDNY, the NYPD and the Red Cross are complicit.
    He stated on Alex Jones' show that the Red Cross were specifically keeping the news of the impending collapse from the first responders. He claims that the 'countdown' he heard was from a walkie-talkie held by a Red Cross official.

    Strangely, he's the ONLY person to claim to have heard a countdown. His current fee is $1500 to speak to groups about his experience.
     
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    Firstly, you need to provide the source of information upon which you base this assertion. Otherwise we are expected to take your word for it alone. Is there some reason why everyone should trust you above everyone else.
    You frequently demand sources don't you? Of course you do. You just did which is why I presented the film when you denied that anyone claimed their was a countdown overheard.
    If you were a gentlemen you would admit your mistake. But that is not a characteristic of Machiavellian philosophers and Hasbarats.

    The FDNY, the NYPD, and even the Red Cross are comprised of ordinary people who take their orders from the people who sign their pay checks.

    I don't know why you should refer to them to support your position anyway since you deny anything spoken by a single one of them who happened to be there whose witness supports the contention for a controlled demolition.


    What makes your disingenuity so obvious is that you never admit that none of these theories have been proven, and that the believability of them all hangs on the logical fallacy of Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc to wit:

    Event C happened immediately prior to event E.
    Therefore, C caused E.


    No defender of the Zionist establishment, or ordinary Jew should be critical of anyone for taking a fee for speaking or anything else. They don't have a bit of room to talk.
     

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