11 year old girl defends herself and home with pink rifle!

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  1. Pregnar Kraps

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    Obama White House Pushes Gun Control “Under the Radar”

    Now, President Obama, his administration and his anti-gun allies in the media have tried to shrug off, laugh off, shout down or shut down anyone who dares to investigate their clandestine, back-channel anti-gun activities.

    They’ll spout platitudes about protecting sportsmen and hunters. They’ll insist they’ve done nothing to attack your right to own a gun.

    They’ll even claim to have strengthened your rights, by restoring your right to transport firearms in luggage aboard Amtrak trains, or possess firearms in national parks.

    But that’s just a diversion to distract you from their true beliefs and objectives.

    Think about it: Before moving into the White House, Barack Obama spent his entire career proudly, publicly advancing the most radical anti-gun positions you can imagine.

    He endorsed a total ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. He opposed Right- to-Carry laws. He voted to ban nearly all common hunting-rifle ammunition.

    In short, Obama never met a gun he liked, and never met a gun ban he didn’t like. The same was true of his running mate, then U.S. Senator Joe Biden, D-Del.

    In fact, during presidential primary debates, Obama and Biden competed to be the most anti-gun candidate in the race.

    Obama vowed to re-impose the discredited Clinton gun ban, and Biden bragged that, “I’m the guy that originally wrote the assault weapons ban.”

    So what happened after they won the White House? Did Obama, Biden and the anti-gun extremists who soon filled the West Wing suddenly completely reverse their positions? No!

    In an act of pure political calculation, they plotted to keep their gun-ban objectives concealed.

    After all, Obama knew what happened in 1994, when the politicians who voted for Bill Clinton’s gun ban were swept out of Congress. Even Clinton admitted the nra was the reason Democrats lost their 40-year lock on control of the House of Representatives.

    Obama saw what happened in 2000, when Al Gore built his campaign on the platform of gun control, and watched as the nra derailed Gore in the battleground states of Arkansas, West Virginia and even his home state of Tennessee—costing him the White House.

    Obama saw how gun control was a loser—and NRA the winner—in election after election.

    So his administration concocted a scheme to avoid the gun issue, lull gun owners into a false sense of security, and play us for fools in the 2012 election.

    For the past three years, that’s exactly what they’ve tried to do.

    But while they’ve rarely revealed their true agenda in public, in private they’ve remained true to their unchanged, if unspoken, ultimate objectives.

    Ask Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy, D–N.Y. Before Obama’s inauguration, she pressured Obama’s transition team to back her ban on ammunition magazines. But, as she later confided to Newsweek, “They told me that’s not for now, that’s for later.”

    Since then, the White House has maintained almost military discipline in its “don’t talk about gun control” directive. Whenever anyone breaks rank on that issue, they’re quickly brought back to toe the line.

    For example, within a week of their election victory, the Obama-Biden transition team had posted a web page—at change.gov—that listed several anti-gun objectives as priorities, including:

    • Permanently re-imposing the Clinton gun bans

    • Opening up sensitive BATFE gun “trace” data for manipulation by anti-gun politicians

    • Imposing restrictions that would severely restrict gun shows

    You can bet some webmaster lost his job over that mis-step, because within days the web page, and its anti-gun agenda items, disappeared into cyberspace.

    Even Attorney General Eric Holder departed from the company line.

    In his first month on the job, at a news conference in Mexico City, Holder said, “As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons.”

    The phone lines must have been on fire between Washington and Mexico City that day, because Holder didn’t mention that plan again.

    But that doesn’t mean that Holder and the White House aren’t planning and plotting, behind closed doors, to launch a massive anti-gun onslaught when the time is right.

    Just this spring, gun-ban zealot U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., told The Washington Post that Attorney General Holder had visited him on March 29 “and tried to give us his assurance to help us with legislation” that Lautenberg and McCarthy were pushing to ban ammunition magazines.

    The next day, March 30, 2011, according to The Washington Post, Sarah Brady—head of the gun-ban lobby formerly known as Handgun Control, Inc.—met with President Obama, who she said brought up the issue of gun control “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda.”

    According to Brady, as reported by the Post, President Obama told her, “I just want you to know that we are working on it,” and “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

    The Obama conspiracy might be trying to run this operation “under the radar.”

    But even the steps they’ve taken so far clearly indicate—and concretely support—the all-out war on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms that they positively plan for their second term.

    http://www.nrapublications.org/inde...plan-to-destroy-the-second-amendment-by-2016/
     
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    From point #5 footnote:

    5 Philip J. Cook and Jens Ludwig, "Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms," NIJ Research in Brief (May 1997); available at http://www.ncjrs.org/txtfiles/165476.txt on the internet. The finding of 1.5 million yearly self-defense cases did not sit well with the anti-gun bias of the study's authors, who attempted to explain why there could not possibly be one and a half million cases of self-defense every year. Nevertheless, the 1.5 million figure is consistent with a mountain of independent surveys showing similar figures. The sponsors of these studies -- nearly a dozen -- are quite varied, and include anti-gun organizations, news media organizations, governments and commercial polling firms. See also Kleck and Gertz, supra note 1, pp. 182-183.

    ibid
     
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    They must be counting all the young gang bangers as children


    I'm sorry but you can't justify taking guns away over them
     
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    Oh, but they will try.
     
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    " 11 year old girl defends herself and home with pink rifle! "

    yet if an adult had the mind of a 11 year old child some feel they should not have a constitutional right to bear arms

    heck, if her parents had committed a crime in the past she still would not of had a gun... but the bad guys could
     
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    You wouod be wrong. Many int that thread scoffed that it wa s just a mistake, nothing criminal.
     
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    Criminally neglegent.
     
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    Rather than quibbling over the veracity of the mountains of evidence that exists showing an undeniable bias against guns what you should be doing is asking yourself if HIS reason for wanting guns banned is the same as your reason for wanting them banned if you do.

    If you check some of the undeniable evidence about his past anti-gun sentiments (before he even ran for POTUS) there weren't any mass shootings to motivate him.

    What do you suppose a megalomaniac like Obama wants?

    Power.

    What could stand in the way of his ambitions?

    A population with the vision to see through his cunning deceits and the wherewithal to stand up for our rights in the face of his Machiavellian schemes to grab power.

    As time goes on more Americans are becoming wise to his games.

    He has a smoothness that rivals even Bill Clinton's. He's good looking, sings well, is quick witted, has a winning smile, says all the right things (almost), has (as far as we know) a stellar background and a nice family.

    But his approval numbers are falling because people are waking up.

    You will too, I trust.

    The only question is whether that will be sooner or later?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Sings "Here we go again!"

    http://vacps.org/public-policy/the-contradictions-of-kleck
     
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    Misleading much?

    Most firearms deaths are suicide... second only by gangbangers.
    http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/gun_violence/sect01.html

    Lets look at under 15.
    http://blogs.kqed.org/lowdown/2013/03/07/u-s-gun-deaths-visualizing-the-numbers/
    Mmm... 219...

    You will like this one... it is very dramatic. Note the spike at 15.
    http://guns.periscopic.com/?year=2013

    I am all for removing all of the illegally obtained guns... but if you suggest targeting problem areas, you are going to make a lot of democrats mad.
     
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    Aussie - don't give a rats patootie who is in your White house and am SUPREMELY disinterested in conspiracy theory ravings.

    I am posting to debunk the huge amounts of crap regarding guns not because I want America to get rid of your guns but because I want AUSTRALIA to keep the low level we now have along with the low homicide rates we treasure. Your claptrap is spilling over to us and that is what I want to stop
     
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    The "Youtube" is a clip of a news report....

    Your desperation is pathetic.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Trolls like ignoring its a news report.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? We are winning so hard... we are winning for Australia too?


    Awesome. If Australians are wanting to defend themselves I wish them nothing but the best, but chances are... you are safe. Governments that take guns... don't give them back.
     
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    Not really it is your idiotic myths that I object to and if you keep touting how WONDERFUL guns are then we will have an illegal arms problem and our homicide rate will rise.
     
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    You never answer why you care what happens in the US. You seem to have much distain for us. Why do you care?
     
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    Your citizens are that willing to break the law that illegal firearms will become a problem in your country because we think they are "cool"?

    Weak sauce.
     
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    Liberals prefer she were raped, robbed and/or killed.
     
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    Bull, there are over 2,000,000 incidents of self defense a year v a few score killed in mass murders....
     
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    I am amazed to read more than one post that seems to believe self defense with a firearm is more rare than shootings are of innocents...

    The best study of the use of a gun to stop a crime was Kleck's study with an estimate of 2.5 million times a year. The FBI, at the same time, estimated 500,000 a year (though they only used data in which a use was reported.)

    Let be really, really generous and pretend both numbers are off by a factor of 10 reducing Kleck's numbers 250,000 and the FBI's to 50,000...Do you believe more than that many folk are shot every year?...The real number for deaths is about 30,000 and the lions share of those are suicides, which would occur regardless.

    You folk really need to stop simply making up numbers. It is why gun owners pay so little attention to their arguments, so very much of it is simply made up. The Brady bunch has not used a real number in over a decade.
     
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    Diane Feinstein....except for hers of course.
     
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    She has said as much and removing her from the list sort of forgets she was also the only person to get a CC gun in San Francisco while she was mayor....
     
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    It's the teabonics, it's excruciating. d-i-s-d-a-i-n.
     

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