60 Minutes On Benghazi: "Yes, They Were Left To Die and You Were Lied To"

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    October 27, 2013

    [video]http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50157981n[/video]​

    60 minutes pulls off a surprising and devastating act of random journalism, courtesy of ace reporter Lara Logan. CBS says they spent almost a year investigating what happened that night in Libya, and it proves beyond a doubt the Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, President Obama, Jay Carney and the rest of the White House crew outright lied, about Benghazi to the American people.

    Not only that, but the report shows the White House and the State Department were fully aware that an attack was being planned (they even knew that one of the former Guantanamo inmates we kicked loose for no good reason was instrumental in planning the attacks). They did absolutely nothing.

    In the case of the president and Secretary Clinton, stood by the caskets perpetuating that lie to the families of the men who were murdered by al-Qaeda thanks to their negligence, so as not to jeopardize President Obama's re-election.

    One thing the report doesn't get into is exactly why our Ambassador was hanging out in an indefensible compound with zero security when even the Red Cross had pulled its people out. For those of you with an interest, I believe you'll find the answer here.

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    http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2013/10/60-minutes-on-benghazi-yes-they-were.html

    IMHO, There was incompetence of this government relating to the attack and deaths of these men in Benghazi. Whether intentional, or incapable of logical decisions, Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton are responsible and they both continue to stone-wall the investigation. CBS's Lara Logan has done a great job exposing this administration. Would NBC have taken a journalistic step like this? I don't the Rachel Maddow, Piers Morgan , or Ed Shultz would have passed on it.
     
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    I also appreciated the 60 minutes coverage of this mystery. Why were people ordered not to help those under attack at Benghazi? What is the US State Dept's current relationship with the Libyan pres? What level of control does AQ have in Libya? Why were those responsible not identified or apprehended (except for 1 now I think?). Why are all those family members visibly pissed off in the background of the Benghazi hearings? Why the heck isn't this a big story lol?
     
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    Why? Because the mainstream media went all in (twice) on their support of Barack Obama and they are not going to look too closely about the huge alarm points about Benghazi and risk finishing the destruction of Obama's once exalted image. The irony being that image is all there ever was to the man. All image and no real substance.
     
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    Best part of the interview

    "We are working on the edges of the map and when we get in trouble we expect Americans to come to help, but they never came".

    As a side note. Hats off to the few special forces that were there. Those were amazing odds and showed amazing courage. American soldiers and Brits too apparently, are a set apart.
     
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    We aren't supposed to leave a man behind. If I got shot down in the middle of the desert during one of my flights, I would hope that someone would be coming to get me. I get Hicks's point. There doesn't appear to be any effort whatsoever to help these people, except for those who disobeyed orders.
     
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    And boom goes the dynomite
     
  7. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you claiming that the overt act of leaving these people hung out to dry and killed means nothing to this president?
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Under this president if he can look good in a rescue your A-Okay. If there's no gain for him in a rescue you're on your own. Have you read the Rules of Engagements (ROE's) issued to the guys in Afghanistan?
     
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    The guy just made the point so clearly and it makes sense to people like me who don't do any of those things. "Why does it matter?" Well, Mrs Clinton, that is why.
     
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    Of course it means something. He sweated bullets worrying that this one time the pro-Obama press would fail to obligingly spin and cover enough for him during the heat of the 2012 election cycle. He cared that if the truth got out -- all of the truth -- then he definitely would not get re-elected. So of course he cared about their deaths . . . from the standpoint of those deaths being a bloody damn nuisance, that is.
     
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    Did you watch the 60 minutes show or just posting joshuapundit?
     
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    But wait...this is a phony scandal fabricated by Fox News!
     
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    It certainly is.
     
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    LMAO! Ignorance is bliss.
     
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    You look at Benghazi and say "Gosh, it has all the makings of a scandal, why don't people pay attention?"

    and the answer is "Because the people promoting the story have a reputation for pure fantasy."
    The right blew it's reputation by trying to blow up every story it could find into a "Major Scandal", even when the facts became obvious the right would continue to stand by the nonsense. Now, the right has zero credibility, and it doesn't matter what they say, because nobody believes people who have been caught lying about nearly everything that they have made an issue of for years, decades even.
     
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    Watch the CBS piece. You sound like a partisan hack with no facts to back your rhetoric. Your credibility is at risk making such uniformed statements.
     
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    If the administration knew Al Queda was going to try to kill our ambassador, and no additional security measures were taken to protect him, would that be a scandal?

    They knew. Watch the video.

    If the administration knew this was an Al Queda attack, and deliberately lied to the American people to blame an anti-Islam movie, isn't that a scandal?

    They knew. Watch the video.

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    And????
     
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    [video=youtube;0LATmPawQR4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LATmPawQR4&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    Do people even realize what it means to say the White House and State Dept. didn't know who was attacking us in Benghazi? Think of the implications of that. Are you telling me that if a nation initiates war against the US, that we don't have any system that allows our embassies to inform our leaders of it? I mean this went on for 8+ hours. Obviously there was plenty of prior warning; multiple people I've heard now pointing out AQ flags flying over various govt buildings in Libya for weeks prior to the attack. Hillary's and Obama's timeline of what exactly they did is blank. Romney apparently lives in the same Washington bubble, and thus he was unable to effectively out Obama and Hillary for their actions or inaction. The next opponent to Hillary will be able to destroy her on this...and the more they try to cover up their actions or inaction that night, the easier it will be. Let them keep taking the position of "The situation was fluid, we had no idea what was happening..." Yeah right, as if any nation in the world could just storm one of our embassies and us not be aware of it all night long. But AQ can do it. LMAO.
     
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    The 60 min story is a good read.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57609479/60-minutes-benghazi/

    The other link is to a really evidence weak opinion rant site.

    The thing to realize though is that the interview was done with a "security office", not the head of their security, and not even titled as "high ranking" by the reporter staff of 60 min. He also was unwilling to do the interview using his own name, which is understandable, but if he is a person of high influence using a pseudonym won't protect his identity.

    The report mostly goes over the security conditions in Benghazi according to the security officer, and his frustration at having his security request ignored. It gives some details of the actual attack as witnessed by him. It does not contain the sentence "You were left to die and you were lied to"

    Thats an extrapolation from the opinion site.
     
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    There's more! According to CBS, Al Queda had posted its intentions, as is their MO, in advance. They said they would attack the Red Cross, the British ambassador, and the US ambassador. They did attack the Red Cross. The British ambassador was attacked. I'll bet the Obamabots don't even know about this. And then they attacked our embassy. There is no reason for anyone to think the administration didn't know this was coming. They were told it was coming.

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    Did you miss the part where the Lt. Colonel was interviewed? You either didn't watch the CBS video, or you're cherry picking info. There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that we were lied to.
     
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    I read the whole interview, offered a direct link to it, and did a very brief summary. Don't exactly know what you mean by "cherry picking".

    The officer being interviewed likely had their input and request filtered through other higher ranking members of security, who obviously had other priorities.

    Benghazi was a tragedy and deserves speculation and investigation, but misrepresenting the evidence found doesn't really prove much.
     
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    The evidence shows Al Queda stated their intentions and carried out exactly what they said they would do. First attack the Red Cross, then the British ambassador, and then the US ambassador.

    The evidence shows the administration LIED about an anti-Islam movie.
     
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    And that lie directly affected me in that my college class discussed a lie for a couple of weeks. It directly affected the world because the UN was also discussing internet videos, and if we should censor them. INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT AQ AND TERRORISM LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN!
     

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