A fake plane was added for south tower explosion

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    ...and so now back to the usual tactics (and we return to our regular programming). Thanks for the honest debate though. :shock:
     
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    These are live clips with two women not fudging when it happens. The second lady starts to change her story but her initial description was close, calling it a possible police helicopter. No doubt, these clips are great evidence for no large plane impacting T2.
     
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    An UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT is exactly what exploded Tower 2. Not a flying saucer with aliens. It would not make one bit of difference if those women changed their stories today. What they said in those moments 10 years ago is corroborated by the footage showing an unknown aircraft going behind the buildings and exploding the south tower.
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    You ignore the majority of the evidence. You argue from a position of dishonesty.
     
  5. 7forever

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    The plane was not flown by poorly trained Arabs on a mission from Osama bin Laden because they “hate our freedoms”. In fact, there was nobody on board that plane at all.

    Quotes from Flight Instructors:

    Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
    Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards
    Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
    Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons
    Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all

    http://911anomalies.wordpress.com/
     
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    truther fabrications......again, how hard is it to crash a plane?
     
  7. 7forever

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    According to a lot of pilots it's impossible to fly that low at those speeds with that much needed accuracy.
     
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    A great site right here. Check it out. http://desip.igc.org/NoPlanesOn911.html

    Holmgren opines that it must have been embarrassing for the FBI when some of the hijackers began turning up alive and protesting their innocence. "And even more embarrassing when the passenger lists provided by the airlines did not contain a single Arabic name," and he details other related impossibilities, improbabilities and coincidences, including an admission by the FBI (later apparently effectively recanted) that "they actually had no idea who hijackers were." To this day, the FBI list of the 19 hijackers remains unchanged.

    Among the reasons that Holmgren concludes that there weren’t any hijackings or hijackers was that in not one of the four alleged hijackings did any of the crew punch in the four digit hijacking code to alert Air Traffic Control. Holmgren also wonders why there was no distress call from Flight AA 11 (North Tower hit) when there was an alleged 25-minute standoff, including shooting and stabbing of passengers. Another anomaly from that alleged flight is that "the timeline of the alleged phone call indicates that the plane had already turned off course before the hijackers got into the cockpit."

    Holmgren then deconstructs the "the South Tower strike – the second hit, the one shown live on TV" and acknowledges that superficially it certainly appears to be a large jet." Yet, he argues, "a close examination reveals that it is not a real plane." To support this assertion Holmgren provides a score of links to the work of researchers Rosalee Grable (aka Webfairy), Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, Ivan Amato[20] and his own supporting articles.[21]

    Holmgren finds that the plane shown on TV is not real because it "shows impossible physical characteristics and behavior." The argument that I find most convincing and easiest to understand is his claim that one can see in a frame-by-frame analysis that the alleged plane "passes through the wall like a ghost without making a hole and without breaking off any parts." Holmgren concludes that the plane is "simply a cartoon, which has been animated into the footage.

    NY based researcher Vincent Sammartino claims that the government seems to have faked the number of plane victims and also faked the number who claimed victim compensation.[25] According to Sammartino, of the 266[26] official names of passengers and crew who were supposed to have died in the four passenger jets, only 52 names have appeared on the Social Security Death Index (SSDI), a privately owned website not affiliated with the Social Security Administration. According to Sammartino, of the 52 listed as dead in the SSDI, which has an accuracy rate of about 83%, only 11 of the family members have claimed victim compensation (not counting 9/11 plane crash widow, Ellen Mariani, who has pointedly refused compensation).
     
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    NONE of the hijackers 'turned up alive'or we'd have seen them for the tenth anniversary,proclaiming their innocence.

    Just another truther fantasy
     
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    It is quite IMPOSSIBLE for the commercial aircraft CLAIMED to have been used in Washington, for it to have flown at such a low altitude for the length of time CLAIMED "officially". Physically IMPOSSIBLE. That size plane at that altitude....IMPOSSIBLE, for even the most experienced of pilots. IMPOSSIBLE meaning that there is ZERO chance that it could have actually happened.
    Again, Google is your friend. Find some professional pilots, ex military, commercial or otherwise, and take note of what they all profess to be IMPOSSIBLE.
    But..."officially" Hanji, the magic pilot who couldn't fly, executed it perfectly. Do you smell the BS?
     
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    Looks like it WASN''T 'impossible'
     
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    I do: you didn't even get his name right.
     
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    My thread presents very well that no plane impacted T2.
     
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    Wow, a bunch of grainy, blurry, gif images onna conspiracy theory forum.

    Yup, I'm convinced!














    :roll:
     
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    OMG! AL QAEDA WAS USING TRAINED SUICIDE CROWS THE WHOLE TIME!

    my god...

    ...I thought we had more time...
     
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    You won't have it right until you get behind reality and leave your debunked goverment lies in the rubble.
     
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    Not at all, your thread misrepresents a grainy video.

    At best.
     
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    This is the clearest footage of the two opposing flight paths brought forth because of this little big thing called the information age. According to this work, this fake west plane path was never shown on TV after 911. The seven second sync is almost perfect. Advance to 4:58 and see for yourself how two plane paths make one fake black plane. The sacking of human ignorance is in motion.

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    Why do truther videos always have to have crappy distracting muzak in the background? I made it about halfway through that video before I just couldn't take it anymore. What a load of complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*). A person would have to be a complete simpleton to believe that (*)(*)(*)(*).....SHEESH. :roll:

    My favorite part was the "side by side" comparison of the shadow from the fireball presented as "proof" of forgery. Too bad the two vids were taken from completely different angles. Fail.....
     
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    Grainy videos seem to be enough as an offer of "proof" concerning the Pentagon being his by phantom flight 77. Why the change of criteria?
     
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    there was more proof than just grainy videos,77 was no phantom
     
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    More than a grainy video? Really? You must mean the 86 cameras information that were confiscated and never to be seen again, cause, that 4 frame nonsense that they claimed was proof of 77 (you know, the one that showed nothing but a white stream of steam behind it?). Commercial planes don't have white steam exhaust. They explode, and leave plane parts all over the place. All we have at the Pentagon is one AA colors piece of something (posing as wreckage). Yes..ONE. PREPOSITIONED planted evidence (similar to the planted OJ glove.
    77 was most certainly a phantom. That plane could not have performed those maneuvers that close to the ground, even with the the best pilot aboard. Couldn't have happened. So, yes...77 WAS A PHANTOM.
     
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    There is ZERO proof of the '86' videos, there is ZERO proof any parts were planted,ZERO proof of 'steam'ZERO proof to your claim that the plane couldn't have perfomed those manouvers 'so close to the ground


    You're just making crap up now, as there is more evidence that a plane was there and hit the pentagon
     
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    ZERO proof of the 86 videos because they were all confiscated by Uncle Sam's compadres. You got me on the second part. Nobody say Furman drop the glove outside OJ's house either, but it happened. The "steam" is about the only thing clear enough to see in the Pentagon offered "proof" of something. Commercial jets don't blow white steam. But do you know what does???MISSILES. MILITARY AIRCRAFT. Pick one, cause, it didn't come from a commercial airliner hovering 6 feet off the ground. Can't happen. Google pilots, Pentagon. You'll find plenty of testimony from military and commercial pilots alike claiming they couldn't have done it, nor could the plane do it.
     
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    i said
    ZERO proof of any of your claims,as I said,no where can you prove any one from the government confiscated 86 videos,no 'steam' was present, and the plane was CRASHING, not 'hovering 6 feet off the ground, and it can, and DID happen
     
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