A military operation in iran is urgently needed

Because we fortunately are not imbued at an early age with Post-Mordernist relevatist Nationalist thinking the most decayed 'political correctness"US cultural export ,we the others on planet Earth ,don't all share the "God Identity Community Culture"of 'Identity Politics 'non-think.

Iran Dosen't think its a Nation .

National Identity is a lie.

Because national Identity is the political Identity of Capitialists in Government form ,whether Iran,USA ,Australia ...........The political identity of the Working Class is Internationalism or marxism which has no ,nor wants no Nationalism as Identity,the working Class wants the nations and their governments of Capitialists abolished and disolved into Socialism .

Firstly in the form of a party then a government and then its own disolution .See what I as a Globalised not Australian Worker wants?

When i want a wage rise I say fight the employing Corporations called Transnationals around the Globe in realtime. .Irrespective of a Workers nation of birth.Our Capitialist birth certificates lie .we are not born to a nation ,we are born to a Unified humanity on Planet Earth.

 

Persian culture would cease to exist if we nuked them back. Their bases are spread out enough and they have enough targets in population centers that every city over 50,000 people would take at least one nuke hit and the entire country would be blanketed in radiation.

As for Iran being suicidal, if that was the case, why haven't they launched an attack with their vast stocks of chemical and biological weapons? They could kill millions with those, why haven't they?

 

Persian culture would not cease, if anything it would expand, first with people who protested America, only to rebel more,then with population. It would also not cease because the culture doesnt rely on people to keep information anymore. There are databases and books that keep the info now. As for the second question, i dont know, maybe Iran is suicidal,but they dont want the Muslim religion to die.

 

People who protest America would suddenly become Persian?

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No, alot of people would become Muslim. And take up the Persian culture, they wouldnt just become Persian.
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Why would they become Muslim? Did a lot people become Shinto when we nuked Japan?

 

no, different times, they would become Muslim just to protest, same type of childly version of rebellion that teens do to their parents.

 

Back that up. Provide evidence.

 

No evidence just a theory based on peoples mentality.

 

At best it would be the opener for a full scale attack, and it would carry the risk of telegraphing the attack.

But the key point is that a counterattack would still be coming. The array of nuke sites and especially the subs would guarantee that.

This counter attack is what is removed from the equation as more and more nuclear armed powers come into existance.

We are not nuking the planet for a single attack, and if we do launch on Russia and China presumably the third world is all that's going to be left, and that might be what some of them want. Presuming they don't think the 12th Imam or whatever will save them (or that we'll just suck it up).

Actually I don't think SDI type stuff is especially a factor here, and I'd hope the contractors aren't looking to cash in on a nuclear Iran.

I'd think a primary risk would again just be an unmarked Tuna boat, or a cargo ship coming from China with some cargo snuck on board sailing toward New York.

 

The United States isn't even the top of Iran's target list, if they have one.

They might nuke Israel.. Chances are they would just give nuclear tech to their anti-Israeli terrorist buddies to do it though.

But Iran's arch enemy of the West is, believe it or not, the United Kingdom.

They LOATHE the UK.. Constant threats and animosity towards them, way more than to America.

They would nuke London, and then be carpet bombed by nukes in response, LONG before they ever got a hold of missile tech that could reach the U.S. If launching nukes in aggression were their plan that is.

I can understand why Iran having nukes is not a good thing and is a threat, but CERTAINLY not a threat to the United States, except possibly U.S. bases overseas.

 

I wonder what its going to be like when America is finished bankrupting itself with wars of paranoia. Didn't work out to well for Russia, England, Spain, or any of the other empires, did it. Oh, I forgot, it can't happen to us.

 

No. nuking Israel means killing Palestinians. Iran's regime won't do that.

No. People hate Britain's centuries of intervention but not the regime. They have the love-hate relationship of a babysitter (uk) and a spoiled child.

However Iran's current regime is not trust worthy of having nuclear bomb. it will turn into another North Korea.
Sanctions are not working - they are just making the people poorer and the regime richer- war most possibly turn into a world war. What must be done?
I wish I knew.

 

The example of the Syrian people should give you an idea of what the Iranian people must do. Only the Iranian majority can stop the madness. The American people can restrain our regime, but we are powerless to change the existing order in Iran.

 

Actually, it's working the other way around, seeing they are getting killed every day without a success to overthrow Asad, and the world watching, have made Iranians believe that only an attack from outside can do that. We have Libya as the other example.
Dictatorships do anything to stay in power. have you heard about the four months infant who was tortured and killed in Syrian prison in front of her parents?
Iranians have heard about it. There is a hope though, if the oil is really seized to be bought from Iran, the regime loses its major source of income, and if people start the fight and strike again, there is a good chance this time we put and end to this nightmare.

 

America is exhausted and broken. No more foreign wars. Those days are over for us. What the Iranian people need are guns. America should help them get guns. Lots of guns. There is no other course of action except armed revolution.

Cutting off the oil revenue is a good idea even if it causes a worldwide recession. It's the best thing to do for Iranians and every one else.

 

If you read my response till the end, I don't want a war and I don't think it's going to work either.

I agree, though it is possible that a civil war and real corruption might take place, this seems the only way, perhaps.

 

I understand your position.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised that guns aren't pouring into the hands of the Iranian people from depots in places like Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan, and along the southern coast of Iran. The Iranian people need to be able to defend themselves from the Basj (sp).

 

I was in the protests in 2009 in Tehran (there were protests in other cities as well) people said with the experience of the last revolution, and the way it turned to be a dictatorship worse than that of the former king, we should protest peacefully and avoid violence. This is why people didn't attack the basij sites and didn't take guns.

If they rise again, though I', pretty sure it would be different, since now we know peaceful protests don't work.

 

Iranians have had a sad history throughout the twentieth century. I wish your people well. But I have a feeling that things will be coming to a head within the next year.

 

Thank you for your solidarity. I wish too that this slow death comes to its end soon.
These days, being iranian is one of the hardest things on this earth.

 

The Isrealis wouldnt bring a whole lot to the table in a sustained air campaign against the Iranians. The isrealis dont have the capabilities to project a sustained, long range air to ground/ interdiction operation against the persians. The isrealis don't have a sufficient numbr of long range strike aircraft, tankers, munitions, or political capital to be a credible threat to the iranians nuclear infastructure. It should not b forgotten that during Isreals last foray into lebanon- when they largely faced only unsophisticated threats/defenses- threat- they came to DC to beg Uncle Sam for more Paveways after only two or three weeks- . Isreali involvement in any overt kinetic operation against Iran would hurt such a campaign. No doubt bibi wants us to attack but we r calling the shots because we are the only ones who would have a chance of air forcing a solution.

 

I presume you're going to go over "boots on the ground style" and flight?

 

Fortunately not everyone has your mentality-so who are you speaking for, exactly?

 

Nope, the Israelis say that there is no Iranian bomb program;

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/227903-israel-iran-has-no-bomb-program.html

Anyone you would like to attack instead ?