A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But Is Not True

So Biden=millions of dollars to son and Trump=some words said on the phone? Yeah right! LOL!

 

Like trumps daughters business deals getting fast tracked approval in China right before the trade talks?
Is this also corruption?

 

Bush, Obama, Trump? Big deal. All liars, all hypocrites. All treasonous.

 

Biden's story:

In March 2016, Biden was in Kyiv, where he was scheduled to announce a $1 billion American loan to the Ukrainian government.

"I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time."

To summarize, Biden threatened to withhold aid if the prosecutor wasn’t fired, and he was. Importantly, Biden was not freelancing, but was acting as a representative of President Obama.

All in all, is this corrupt?

Story from The Atlantic.

 

And just like that the way was cleared for Biden's son to get his deal through.

 

You realize that Biden himself has bragged PUBLICLY about having the man fired in 2016. It makes this little bit of subterfuge that much more hilarious and the credibility of the poster destroyed...

 

Well Joe certainly got his money's worth, as did Hunter.

 

So..........you actually posted that trash.

 

Nuff said!

 

Did you even read what you replies do? Yah he got him fired, on behalf of half the world lol

 

So you’re against firing corrupt prosecutors that the G7 said was harming their sanctions efforts?

 

Yes, we understand the lengths of hypocrisy that you're willing to engage in.

 

By offering a quid pro quo? Isn't that what the President is being accused of?

 

Except that Biden’s deal had already gone through years earlier and was no longer in place in 2016. So there’s that.

 

The accusation is that Biden blackmailed Ukraine’s new leaders into firing the country’s chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, to derail an investigation he was leading into a Ukrainian gas company that the vice president’s son, Hunter, was paid to advise.
Question: We know Biden blackmailed Ukraine's leaders to fire Shokin. He told us he did so. Was Shokin investigating the Ukrainian gas company that the vice president's son, Hunter, was paid to advise? If so, I think most reasonable people know we're done here.

"But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

 

Except there was no probe, that's why the western world wanted him fired

By getting Shokin removed, Biden in fact made it more rather than less likely that the oligarch who employed his son would be subject to prosecution for corruption.

 

You cannot prove a negative so it would be unfair of me to ask you to try. I can't ask you to PROVE Shokin had no such wide ranging corruption probe as I don't know how you would do it. But we know enough that a reasonable person would look at this and "know" that, yeah, Biden got someone dangerous to his son fired for that reason.

 

Well Trump supporters have been asked for proof of their allegations, have even asked to reinvestigate by Ukraine, yet nothing has been produced to back up their claim. That said, Trump and guiliani have admitted they asked for Ukraine to look into Biden, still nothing.

Either poop or get off the pot.

 

What was Biden Jr. getting paid for? Would this druggie have gotten that job if his name was Hunter Smith?

 

Oh well, don't feel bad about it at all.
Democrats spent 3 years investigating Trump based on information they knew to be false and lead to the complete and thorough exoneration of president Trump on charges that he colluded with Russia to subvert the American presidential election which he won with 100 percent legitimacy.

 

We know Biden did in fact pressure and coerce the Ukrainian Government to fire Shorkin.

We know his son did work for a company which was being investigated by Shorkin.

Apparently you do not get what conspiracy theory means. Is it rwasonable to suspect the two facts are linked? Sure. Was do we know what Bidens motives were? No.

But either way is not a conspiracy theory since Biden seems to have acted alone.

 

So, you agree that Biden committed a crime? Good to know.

 

Wow. So, Biden, himself, admitting that he did what you're now stammering about isn't proof? I mean for Fs sake, someone already posted the video....

Here's what I think. The president must know that he's always under constant surveillance by the deep state. Used this exact scenario to smoke out yet more of them, and presto, magico, we get yet another anonymous whistleblower complaint that substantiates the abuse of power necessary to make the allegation in the first place, and for the bonus, also implicates one of the democratic presidential candidates as having actually done the thing that democrats are now howling about.

 

Biden's admission of guilt would only be stronger if it were to have been done under oath.

But the accompanying FACT pattern is air tight. Even the money laundering trail has been verified. Biden is a criminal !!!

 

Well now he can deal with it while Trump deals with his problems.