A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

You are such a wonderful example of an extremist. Because somebody supports equality for homosexuals you conclude that he holds them “in esteem.”

 

Sensible shoes, lol........

 

Nothing wrong with that

 

What about Lot, did he not have his Daughters ???
Both of them ?
That was a sin or two .....

 

So? Just because it is in the Bible does not mean it is to be condoned. It is an example.

 

This is your parade....isn't this extreme?

 

No....this is a great example for our children, Doc.

 

You compared them to the KKK....not me. I denounce the KKK. This is your parade. Are you proud about the way they fight? Remember...it's not about sex!! Ha!

 

do you denounce the st Patrick’s Day parade?
Why don’t you show the hundreds marching who are serious? These guys are having fun. Why does that bother you so much

 

because if I took my Sunday school kids to town there I would have to explain to them why a bunch of grown men find it fun to get naked in such close proximity to each other and what is the point it makes? Why is that acceptable in open society? By the way....those guys really look like they are celebrating their Irish heritage.......a bunch of real leprechauns!

 

You could explain those guys were having fun just like the girls at spring break. You could then explain to them why the hundreds of people not being outrageous are marching to support of gay rights. You might educate them on why they’re marching, It might also be a good time to teach them about blaming the messenger’s while ignoring the message
What would you explain to your children at a st Patrick’s Day parade?
Ps They weren’t naked! What do you tell them when girls are semi naked dancing in close proximity?

 

And the converse is true. If something is in the Bible it does not mean it should be condemned.

 

Sorry Renee, I don't march in that parade. I don't excuse perversians. I explain it that way. Those men should keep their behavior in the bedroom.

 

Perversion? So you must think women are perverts when they dance around and are scantily clothed? Are they perverts?
These guys are having fun....not being perverted. You just have a dirty mind ? Why don’t you show the hundreds marching in the parade supporting gay rights? Oh wait, that doesn’t fit your stereotype.
Shall we call off the St. Patrick’s Day parade? They should keep their drunken behavior in their homes.

 

Wrong. Those things are in the scriptures so that we can discern. King David, for example, had a couple wives as well as several concubines. He did have sin in his life as we all do. He also had a heart after God. The results??? The sin had several, heart rending results, including the death of a new born son, a daughter that was raped by another son, Absolam. Absolam rebelled against his own father that resulted in his own death. David's greatest desire was to build a magnificent Temple to his God.... he was not permitted to do so. Of course you blame ALL those things on God. In spite of his illicit behavior, David realized the consequences of his own sin. He never turned his back on God. The Psalms are an indication that David always commanded his soul to return to righteousness. Really Renee, you would do well to study the Life of David. I would encourage you.

 

What you call my stereotype, is the "natural" order of things. I do not think "scantily clad" women in public has any redeeming qualities either. Especially if they are being suggestive toward each other. There are ordinances in most Towns against public drunkeness. Guess you would call that off too.

 

I’m not the one who’s getting all emotional over a parade, that you and your homophobia
We see scantily clad women in public all the time and women hug and kiss each other all the time. I guess it just upset you a man
might act like a woman. What could be yuckier than a woman
By the way there are ordinances against public nudity so you don’t see any nude men in the parades. By the way gay parades are marched with the women and straight men and women who believe in equal rights.

 

I also blame pandora for opening the box of woes. And I thank Zeus for having one of his guys drag the sun around in a cart. And bless Persephone for giving us harvests, except when her mother got pissed because Zeus married his daughter Persephone off to his son, hades
(Incest?) Why is this less credible than the stores you’re telling me?

 

Interesting Hypothetical. Implying that it is commonplace however is absurd. 1st homosexuality isn't common lesbianism less so.

2nd I cannot feature the siblings, parents, of a lesbian daughter, who objected to her relationship on religious grounds, being unwilling to adopt her children if for no other reason than to get them away from what they would consider the corrupting influence of their daughters lover. All in all your hypothetical is common the elephants are native to western Canada.

 

Because if you lay your hatred for scripture aside, a lot can be learned from just study of Biblical charactors. It is my belief that the wisdom taught in scripture is from the hand of a loving God, but that is beside the point. You show your misunderstanding of scripture that the Bible "condones" every act within it's pages. It actually shows that even godly men and women make mistakes and we are wise to learn from them. Also, we are not unique in our shortcomings (if we are humble enough to recognize we have them). The Book of Psalms reflects Davids moods in the struggles he went through. They are even more meaningful when you can parallel them with the trials he was going through at any given time. Psalm 22 describes a vision he was given of his future descendant, Jesus on the cross over 600 years in the future. David's story begins in 1st Samuel 16 and ends in 2nd Samuel.

 

I could give you a lecture on Biblical Archeology and it probably would not change your mind. The Greeks had as many gods as Doan's has pills, and not one of them claimed to be the beginning and end of all in Creation. The Bible only deals with One God but many imperfect people. People that are very real and reflect the lives of everyone alive today. Personally, I don't need the Archeological proof. To me, the proof is in the words, wisdom I find far beyond human comprehension yet what I am able to grasp is more than sufficient for me.

 

Do you see scantily clad male or female performing suggestive acts in public a thing that has redeeming qualities for a Mom and Dad in raising their family?? I don't. Also I believe family is the bedrock of any society. A civilized society safeguards the children. Remember I'm not emotional over it, but it is your parade, not mine.

 

I don’t hate scriptures. I don’t hate Greek mythology either.
For a loving god, he sure did some mean things. Yes, I can learn good and bad things from both....but they’re still stories. I learn more from the reality of here and now, I can’t suspend logical thinking

 

. Do you see people drunk as having redeeming values? Should we cancel st Patty’s day parade because of those who are drunk? What if I just showed you pictures of people only acting outrageous and not those who are proud of their Irish heritage?
I agree with you our family is the bedrock of society. My cousin and her partner have raised two of the most extraordinary kids.Families can be made up of many combinations and making heir kids feel loved and worthy is the main thing
I am confused...why do you call it my parade?

 

That is why your logic is always changing...just like the culture. You blame God and have no basis.... Your reality is based only on what you perceive.

I am probably more Irish than you but with men and women that want to promote their sexuality in a parade....I have no part in it. It is your parade not mine and I do not celebrate what they do. I do not hunt them down and condemn them either. When they parade before my eyes, or try to get me to join in, or condone their activity, that is an invitation for me to speak my mind.....and I do. That is why I speak up on this thread just as you do. Selah