A straightforward question: Why do some of you think Trump is not "legitimate"?

So help me -- if it is ever even seriously suspected that President Trump was not born in the United States of American, I will raise holy hell with my Congressman and Senator until he brings forth absolute concrete proof that he was!

Furthermore, I would demand that he show the world an exact COPY of his birth certificate as issued by the State of New York. No photoshopped, layered images or any of that kind of crap -- just a nice, simple, clear, unambiguous, straightforward copy, just like you could make on any copy machine in the world....

If he were to refuse, I'd raise hell to have him impeached, removed from office, and arrested for lies and deceit. How's that? And I mean every word!

 

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/ca...2016-elections-easily-hacked-already-started/
Well,so we are starting to get some information (or proof)from the FBI- that is confirming my suspicions about those pesky numbers being manipulated---
Oh, & please read the whole article---as my reasoning & justifications are explained----

 

QUOTE=Pollycy;1067011632]Why do you think that Trump is not a Constitutionally-elected President-Elect, Blue? I'm curious to know what your reasoning is... and I'm curious to know what you base this belief in. Surely you have concrete ideas pointing to why you think this. So, please share them! [/QUOTE]
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/ca...2016-elections-easily-hacked-already-started/
Well, here's a start----

 

Because he's a bastard born out of wedlock.

I've thrown my lot in with the alt fact crowd.

 

This does not support a single claim you made with regard to WI MI and PA.

 

Ahem-you did not read the whole article & I said this is just a start-----But, the bigger question one should be asking is, if this is possible--- Did those numbers get manipulated---Did trump actually win legitimately---to me the answer is "NO"----
I know it is driving you crazy that my feeling & justifications might actually be right--can't wait to hear your spin----

 

I did. It states that some of the PA voting machines may be vulnerable.
This does not support your claim.

Keep relying on your feelings; the rest of us will work with facts.

 

Ok, since you are not reading the whole article-here are some quotes from the article-----
Says "Looking for signs that the attacks may have been attempting to target more than two states"
Says " About 40 states use optical-scan electronic voting machines, allowing to fill out their choice on paper, The results are tabulated by computer"
Says " But,six states & parts of four others are more vulnerable because they rely on paperless touch screen voting known as DRE's or Direct Recording Voting machines for which there are no paper ballot back-up" " Then whatever numbers the voting computer says at the close of the polls, ARE COMPLETELY under the control of the computer program in there--" IF the computer is hacked, then the "HACKER" gets to decide what numbers are reported"
So, yes, the article does back up my assertions completely-----so,what part of these "facts" are not jiving with "yours "

 

Does it bother you that Trump is the only serious candidate for President in the past 60 years who refuses to reveal his tax returns? I can imagine the total hysterical uproar from the GOP had Hillary and Bill Clinton refused to turn their's in. Would you also be upset if investigations revealed that members of the Trump campaign conspired with foreign governments to sway the election? At this point, I believe that Trump is the duly elected POTUS, but there are serious questions regarding ethical conduct and conflict of interest at this point. I might add that after only a week in office he has made several idiotic and dangerous statements. The most troubling one so far is his assertion that we should have taken Iraq's oil after nvading and that "maybe we will get another chance".....To me, that is unbelievable. We have 5000 US servicemen over there fighting Isis along side the Iraqi military and this (*)(*)(*)(*)ing moron is reinforcing all of the claims of the terrorists on live tv...somebody should isolate Mr. Trump, smack him upside the head and tell him to watch what comes out of his big ignorant mouth.

 

I know, I know, it is very hard for a die hard trump supporter to admit that trump did not win this election--but soon, all the truth will come out & you will have to deal with those truth's----
But,as it is looking I am still batting 100% with my Women's Intuition & justifications------

 

No.
I could not possibly care less how much these people make or pay in taxes.

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You must be talking to someone other than me, as I stated innumerable times I did not want Trump to win the election.

Keep relying on your feelings; the rest of us will work with facts.

 

Yeah, too bad Obama lied about getting us OUT of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., etc. BUT, there is no requirement for the display of anybody's tax return.

There IS a requirement that a president is able to PROVE that he/she is a "natural born" citizen. If Trump ever produces false or contrived documents about THAT, then he must be removed immediately!

 

Under our current anti democratic system, he is definitely the legitimate 45th President.

That said, here are some interesting facts. 45% of people did not vote at all. 3 million more voters cast their ballot for someone else, and 16% of Trump's voters on election day told exit pollsters they did not believe he was qualified, but voted for him because of the HORRIBLE pick by Democrats.

He is a legitimate President, but doesn't have a mandate or majority support of the country. Bad times we live in.

 

In 1992; 57% of the people voted some someone other than Clinton.
In 1996, 50.2% of the people voted for someone other than Clinton.
What did his lack of mandate prevent him from doing?

 

Nothing, which is very sad. We may have been able to prevent NAFTA and deregulation of the TeleComm industry, and a lot more.

 

So, in reality, none of the things you mention really mean that Trump cannot do the things he said he would do.

 

Are you really still a birther? It's over champ. Obama has left the office with very high approval ratings in case you haven't heard. Evidently, those that were in charge of checking out his birth certificate were satisfied that it was real, but what do they know, right? He is definitely the son of a US Citizen and was raised in Hawaii.

What I am concerned about, which I noticed you dodged was the fact that Trump ******** that he is, went in public in front of a bank of cameras and said that we should have stolen Iraq's oil and that "we might get another chance". It is one thing when a crackpot, king of the birthers, TV reality show buffoon says something that (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid, but when the President of the United States says something like that, it's a real problem. All of these radical jihadis have been saying this and drumming up support for their cause ever since we went in there. At least Bush/Cheney had the good sense to lie about their reason for going there. This guy Trump is a crook, a crackpot and a loose cannon to say the least. To still be all in a tizzy about Obama's friggin' birth certificate yet dismiss all of the moronic and dangerous crap coming out of our new presiden'ts mouth exposes you as a very unbalanced person.

 

I didn't write one (ONE) (*)(*)(*)(*)ing word about anyone named Obama. No, not ONE. But, you decided to pole vault from that to blathering on and on about what you don't like about President Trump, including his participation in a TV reality show to "stealing" oil in Iraq, "crook", "crackpot", "loose cannon"...(?). Oh, but where is your abundance of proof, since you're so very certain about what you've claimed...?

Nothing? Really...? Fine. But don't fault me if I don't want to watch you 'play with yourself'.

Be certain of this: if it is ever seriously alleged that Donald Trump wasn't born in New York, then I will DEMAND that he produce absolute, unvarnished, non-'photoshopped', and non-software-manipulated PROOF to the nation that he is, indeed, a "natural born" citizen of the United States. And if Trump can not do that, I'll be screaming at my Representative and Senator to impeach and remove him from office immediately! The Constitution of the United States is QUITE clear about this.

 

I bet Charles Manson and Ted Bundy have clear proof of being born in the USA. I don't give a rat's ass the f Trump was born in Queens or if he was born in Stalingrad: Also, t could really care less about whether Obama was born in Honalulu or Johannasburg, He has already served his 8 years and is done. For proof of Trump saying that maybe we will get another chance to steal the oil, all you have to do is google it. The moron just said it a couple days ago.

 

Because he doesn't go by the Constitution; http://reverbpress.com/news/dan-rather-youre-either-against-trumpism-or-against-the-constitution/

 

The truth about Obama will come out one day. Those Kenyan BCs are very authentic looking but the official one from Hawaii has been debunked like about six times by computer experts. .

The libs are going to have to accept Trump or else just go insane being mad about it for no reason. The Electoral College is in the Constitution, and Trump won a big majority there. Case closed.

 

Did you glean that information from a World Nut Daily article or from a chain e-mail sent to your AOL account? You've got mail!

 

I do not believe Trump (or any other ruler) is legitimate because no person has legitimate claim over my individual sovereignty.