A Thread To Discuss White Supremacy

I don't support or condemn it. I simply don't care. The Chinese have believed themselves superior to all other races for centuries, and while it's slightly annoying, no one really cares. But do you care about that? They are about a quarter of the population of the planet, so you should - according to your own criteria.

 

Emigrants tend to have a somewhat higher IQ than the general population they leave behind (today's illegal aliens excepted), so in that sense, the Europeans & Asians who developed from the African emigrants had an advantage. And then the Africans who were left behind suffered from a distinct disadvantage as far as development is concerned, and that was a tropical environment. Life in a tropical environment depresses advancement because the living is both easy (in that resources are available in abundance) and hard (in that disease is rampant). Plus high temperatures sap energy. Life in a temperate or cold environment pushes advancement because the living is hard because resources are scarce, but the suppression of life threatening diseases extends the lifespan and makes planning more productive. You would not expect to see an advanced civilization develop in Tahiti, for example. So why do we see the exact opposite in the Americas? Why did civilization develop in the tropical south but remain unknown in the temperate north? Or did civilization in the tropical south only occur in the temperate mountains? Tenochtitlan (Aztecs) was built on a mountain plateau that still today has a more temperate climate than the surrounding jungles. Many of the cities and temples of the Maya and Incas were built in the mountains. Perhaps they came before the jungle cities and spread downwards. But then there's the counter-example that the very first civilization, Mesopotamia, developed in the hot Tigris-Euphrates river valley. So who knows, really.

 

So you don't care about any sort of "supremacism". Okay.

 

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Look, BJ (funny name, BTW), no one is buying your 'strict control' as anything but your unpreparedness for questions. Not sure what you thought would happen .. but it's clear you didn't expect to be challenged.

 

How is anything you are saying a "challenge" on the topic?

You just said you don't care about the topic.

The fact that you keep playing this game is ridiculous.

Either get on topic or start your own thread, CRANK.

 

Do you care about Chinese 'supremacism'? Because they have it in spades. Come on, show us how un-racist you are.

Own the inconsistency and double-standard, or acknowledge that you don't really care either. Because at present you are completely failing to support your own argument.

 

This isn't a thread about Chinese Supremacy.

YOU JUST SAID YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT EITHER.

So why you keep posting is beyond me.

You seem intent on playing games and derailing.

 

I'm intent on holding your feet to the fire on SUPREMACISM - the subject of this thread.

Until you can demonstrate that you hold all forms of SUPREMACISM (and there is far more of it outside the white world) to the same standard, or just admit you don't REALLY care about ethnoloyalty, then I'll keep doing so.

 

And you don't see that one individual and incident does not define all the people you dislike?

Maxine Waters, from whom as a member of congress we might have the right to expect some rational stability- encouraged people to go out and seek those who oppose them, run them out of public places like restaurants and tell them they are not welcome anywhere? Or- perhaps you missed that.

When people promote hate and violence under the guise of improving the nation, THEY are the source of violence. There are out and out looneys in every group, but to promote that hate and breed such loonies is far more dangerous- and that is going on everyday among the left.

In a world of responsible people, ALL would recognize and condemn dangerous behavior- AND dangerous mindsets. Regardless of political affiliations.

 

I have visited a number of the Mayan ruins.... and I can tell you, they damn sure aren't in mountains! I think the only reason most of that ground is above sea level is the accumulation of mosquito carcasses- they are incredibly thick as well as hungry. Not too bad in the clearings- but never step into the jungle there without taking a bath in a good repellent first, or you will be lucky to escape alive..... Perhaps the built high temples to get away from the damn things.

I've noticed that cultures who spend a lot of time educating children and don't pamper them tend to produce very smart, very industrious off-spring, That's part of by belief that cultures can develop within a race or location, that become respected values and grow with each generation. While that could apply anywhere, it seems to gain far more popularity is some, while others ignore it. Minds are both the tool and the craftsman, and unless a person becomes skilled in the use of the tool and develops mastery of himself- not much will happen. That has got to start very early in life and depends greatly on parents. Thus, I believe effective cultures grow over time, so long as the honor certain values. Honor becomes tradition if it is respected and admired, and disappears if it is not. In this way- what we stand for can be passed along and grow, or be discarded. Human attitudes control that.

 

No kidding.

Do you see that?

Do you have anything to actually say about the topic.

You are doing exactly what I referenced in the post you quoted...for some reason the right doesn't want to actually talk about the topic. You shrug off a cold blooded murder by a White Supremacist, and go on about the left.

The only thing you seem concerned with, is not the people who were shot, not the people who have been murdered, not the terror and hate and ignorance that caused this, but the idea that this doesn't "define" you?

 

Excellent post!

 

I've offered to talk about it, and you refused saying that it's just bad, and that's that.

You seem to feel that white supremacy is bad, but when asked for an explanation, it's been a balk from day one of this thread.

 

He/she has yet to condemn supremacism. So far it's been all about the whiteness .. which of course is not the key feature of the problem. Kinda like like saying strawberry flavoured murder is okay, but chocolate flavoured murder isn't. Literally, ignoring the MURDER, and discussing the flavour.

 

I dunno if it's just the whiteness. I mean, really nothing has been argued, including whether it's just white supremacy is bad.

We have no specifics to work with here, and BobbyJoe is really doing that whole bob and weave tactic of refusing to give any sort of target, which I know from long experience means that our friends on the left don't want to give anything to pin them down on because they know they'll lose like Apollo vs Drago. They know it's an automatic loss,so they sit outside of the ring talking smack, but refusing to get into the ring because they know they'll get destroyed.

Well why is white supremacy bad?
It's just bad, mmmkay!

Why isn't it okay to hit a woman?
It's just bad, mmkay!

 

You may have a long wait. I'm still waiting for someone on the left to explain why "It's okay to be black" is not racist but "It's okay to be white" is.

 

The real battle is being won. CNN and MSNBC are on the ropes, the young turks have become no-shows, and everywhere you look, the democrats are nowhere to be found. They have 20 candidates and Biden is the front runner by a long margin.

The desperation is obvious now. They have nowhere to go, no serious platform, and are floundering everywhere. Sure, we will get lefties who refuse to debate their ideas, but that just helps us because other people see that inability to argue their points and that inability speaks volumes to people who are on the fence.

I don't mind the wait.It's just one more example of the left being intellectually bankrupt.

 

I wonder. The left seems to have abandoned all pretense of being bound by democratic (republican) principles and seem determined to win no matter what they have to do, including creating crimes where none exist, covering up crimes by their own side where they do exist, chasing conservatives out of social media, restaurants, and now banks, and of course resorting to the courts to get their way when they can't get it at the ballot box. I'm not a fan of Trump, but at least he's willing to push back against this bullshit. He's filling the federal courts with conservative judges and ignoring leftist objections, Twitter doesn't dare ban him, and he refuses to kowtow to the Democratic House. The establishment Republicans could learn a thing or two from him if they didn't hate him so much.

 

The point is that you see nothing but that event and want to define the entire right by it. It's an individual- not the act of any political organization or affiliation, and I will not help you define an entire group in that way for your own purposes. You lack the ability to put your own topic into perspective, to see the situation that surrounds it and creates it,.

We have seen the left demonstrating a ludicrous double standard of judgement for a long time. Outraged at isolated incidents, trying to make politics hinge on them- while at the same time being totally oblivious to prolific incidents that are emanating from their own efforts to incite trouble for politic purposes.

Conservatives are highly aware not only of violence and injustice- but of the causes of those problems and the people who promote them.
Attempts to mirror the consequences of the trouble you foment back on the other side? Not just typical, but exactly what we have come to expect from today's left.
The closest logic to what we are seeing from the left today is similar to what I experienced while doing a program on personal development, for a boys detention center- teenagers in trouble. No matter what you said or presented, they were able to ignore everything; some probably never even knew they were in a class. Compared to them, doing the same program for drug addicts was far more effective.

When the only thing you see is your own hostility, you are worse than blind.

 

The sad thing is that they don't actually know (why something is bad). They respond in the same way religious people do, when asked 'but why?'. They were never told the whys, only the 'musts'. And of course, they never ask. Asking would suggest you're swaying in your faith, and your pals might shun you.

 

You never know, things may get so bad for the Left generally (across the First World) that a numbskull like myself could probably step in and take the reins. Of course, I'd need to check for skelingtons in my closet first But yeah, I'd love to have a shot at returning the Left to productivity and progress.

 

I'm not defining the right. You are.

The thing I am questioning as far as the right goes, is why they don't want to talk about white supremacy. This idea that it's just one or two or a few people? How many people are knocking red hats off? That's a big orchestrated threat?

It makes no sense.

The right has no trouble talking about anything they deem "bad".

But on this topic, as this thread proves, they don't want to talk about it...it's a big shrug.

These are the answers from the "right" in a nutshell:

White Supremacists don't exist, it's a myth.

Or, they are insignificant.

Or, the left empowers them, it's all their fault.

Or, the left are the White Supremacists.

Or, what's wrong with white supremacy?

 

How come you and Belch don't question the people on the right who say it's "bad"?

Many have, but they don't want to talk about it or explain why.

Yet, you two don't seem to care about them.

 

It's okay to be white.

Is it okay to be a white supremacist? Answer yes or no.

White supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to people of other races and therefore should be dominant over them. White supremacy has roots in scientific racism, and it often relies on pseudoscientificarguments. Like most similar movements such as neo-Nazism, white supremacists typically oppose members of other races as well as Jews.

 

I got my answers. Or rather, I spent decades NOT considering the bigger picture .. then realised that made me the idiot. So I started asking.