Abortion is a form of violence

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anders Hoveland, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    27,801
    Likes Received:
    302
    Trophy Points:
    83
    :laughing: You are just too easy, settle down Francis.


    - - - Updated - - -

    Who is this mythical person?

     
  2. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Whaler17 said,

    We have the right to freedom of religion....free speech no matter where we are...at home or at work. Religious beliefs have a direct influence on a persons morality.


    The Separationists...think there is...they have made it up...it does not exist and yet our SCOTUS operates as though it does.
     
  3. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,971
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How does it make not sense that a woman should be free to have her uterus surgically scraped clean for whatever reason when she wants it to be?
     
  4. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How can you say this...when its your position that condones killing babies not ours. I do not believe whatever birth defect or condition affects the fetus...that killing should be an option....
    But you do, don't you? Do you think a fetus is better off dead if they know it has downs syndrome? We love life...not hate it like your position does.
     
  5. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Now wait.....your position is different from all the rest of the pro-aborts on this forum. You think the woman has the right to her body....THEY DO NOT. They enslave her and tie her hands...because they don't condone late term abortion like YOU DO. There is no choice...if you deny a woman the right to her body.
    Does limiting when woman wants to abort...give her rights...or takes them away? yes or no

    Why don't you call them out on this?
     
  6. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,971
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Why do you care and why do you continue to quite literally harass me about it? I've also seen you name-dropping me in other posts and trying to goad me into picking a fight with others. This is highly offensive and I really hope the mods take a look at what you continue to try to do when you keep picking on me personally like this.
     
  7. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No names as it will gain me an infraction, but its there in other threads .. but really you don't care about who it is, its just another evasion on your part.
     
  8. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Killing living plants and animals are different than killing living human beings. That is one difference pro-choicers don't see. Sure abortion is violent...and pro-aborts condone violence. We do NOT HAVE TO KILL UNBORN CHILDREN TO SURVIVE.

    Abortion is a human rights issue. It deals with a worldview that condones violence and slavery was violent certainly a blemish on our history as a nation as abortion is. There are two sides in the abortion issue. Democrats who condone killing and Republicans that want it banned. This goes hand in hand with how they view slavery...which was brought up a few posts back.

    Let me ask you this. You question as to if the fetus in the few weeks is alive. Well then when does it come alive? Is it dead until ...when? When does it come alive? LMAO
     
  9. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You know its true, your little pro-life buddy who likes to keep on about late term abortions and shoving sandpaper inside a woman posted on this forum that he thinks all DS & mixed race babies should be killed.

    Whether the fetus has any kind of disability is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.
     
  10. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    would you care to prove the highlighted part, or were all people without morality before religion?
     
  11. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Who are you talking about? I am the only one that is drilling late term abortion on here. I have no idea what your talking about as far as sandpaper. Did you start with cocktail hour early today?
     
  12. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Example....someone who does not believe in a God...makes up their own morality, what they think is right and wrong. They are moral relativists.

    Someone who does believe in God..follows scriptures that state morality.

    It is a guide for my life....I don't make up the rules. I know what is right and wrong, there is no question in my mind. But an atheist can't make this claim. Morality is different for all of them.

    Since the beginning of time people have believed in higher powers....gods. They recognized that all this could not have come from nothing. So there has always been religion. Someones belief or unbelief has a lot to do with how they view the world.
     
  13. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Sigh, the attempt at naivety is very misplaced, you know very well who this person is and are just trying to get me to name them so you can report it.
     
  14. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So are you saying that your morality is better than someone who believes in a different god(s), isn't pride a sin?

    Morality isn't religion based, morality is based on your location at birth and the culture you grow up in .. you may live your life governed by a book, but that book took its moral teachings from the culture(s) it was produced in.
     
  15. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So you have something to hide? LOL I have no idea who you are talking about. Could be any pro-lifer....your after. I just was on another site and you were bashing Whaler...so it could be anyone. I have no idea what your talking about concerning sand paper. So either answer the question or shut up about it.
     
  16. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'll happily answer your question in a PM .. though I doubt you will bother to read it

    Oh and by the way just as you tell me I can post what ever I like, you don't get to tell others to "shut up"

    "sandpaper" boy will be squirming.
     
  17. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I know people who were born in Pakistan and are Christian. I know someone from Haiti and is a Christian. So that is not true about morality. It does not have to do with the place with which you are born.

    If that is true...and Muslims grow up with honor killings then honor killings could be morally right....right? Are the countries that allow slavery wrong? I think most people worldwide would agree that murder is wrong. How do they know it is wrong? Where would society be if murder was allowed?

    We are talking here about world views. A humanist looks at the world totally different than a Christian or Jew or a Muslim looks at the world. The belief in God has a lot to do with morals.

    - - - Updated - - -

    You know you slam someone on here and then you are so scared that you have to PM me? LOL

    You call them out on here and then hide?
     
  18. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You have made an attack on someone calling them out on something they said publicly. How can you make this claim and then hide?
     
  19. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So they were born in another country, there were two parts to my comment care to address the other part as well

    They could be morally right in that culture, not in our culture for sure, same goes for slavery .. you are judging other peoples morals on your assumption that your morals are better.

    Even murder in our culture is acceptable in certain circumstances.

    It does for your morals, but not for someone else who doesn't believe in god.

    so do you want to know or are you to scared to find out (though in reality you already know who I am talking about).
     
  20. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Tell you what got to this thread - http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/292983-sticking-probe-up-womans-hmm-hmmm-2.html

    and read post #17 . .you will see this;

    what is the betting you don't bother.
     
  21. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,057
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    0
    and while you are at it you may want to read this post

    From this thread - http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/251920-clump-cells-deserving-life-10.html

    It post number 98 .. same person.
     
  22. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    27,801
    Likes Received:
    302
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Its how he rolls, he even called me a coward in one post :laughing: Ah the irony.


     
  23. WhatNow!?

    WhatNow!? New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2013
    Messages:
    2,540
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    LOL! Ya , you missd a thread that's been going for a month? That's OK , not ONE other Anti-Choicer denounced shoving sandpaper up a woman's vagina PROVING that it's ALL and ONLY about punishing women.


    They are all wide eyed and innocent and just never saw anything bad posted by anti-choicers...lalalala :)

    The thread:
    """sticking a probe up the woman's hmm-hmmm """ Post17
     
  24. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    27,801
    Likes Received:
    302
    Trophy Points:
    83
    It certainly isn't me.

     
  25. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    As I said I DO NOT LIVE ON THIS SITE. I do miss posts and threads. You have an obsession with sandpaper...wow. Have you gotten help yet? And who are you talking about? Can't you just say it? LOL
     

Share This Page