Abortion is a homicide, deal with it

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was a case where police found a bloodied tampon in a woman's garbage and ran a test on it to determine that the woman was a crack user.

    So it is possible.
     
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    Because it contains blood yes it IS possible but are you prepared to subject every woman of child bearing capability in America to monthly tests?
     
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    You would need to form a special investigative unit of the police called PP. Pregnancy Police. Book em Dano.
     
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    No , it wouldn't, not in the woman's body... giving birth and having a miscarriage or abortion leave different effects on a woman's body....

    "Sting operations "" My gawd how asinine!!

    LOL! Really! HOW ?...... keep track of every woman able to become pregnant and then what?

    Hide in their bathrooms?

    Plant cameras in their vaginas to watch for illegal activities ?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:


    I tell ya, Anti-Choicers are getting so desperate to punish and control women they really don't think clearly...
     
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    Exactly

    But you can see why so many so called pro lifers think that they are riding in to “save babies and children” and when confronted with the reality that the vast majority of abortions lccur in the first eight weeks when the foetus has not even reached the size and development of a kidney bean......
     
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    kazenatsu said:
    There was a case where police found a bloodied tampon in a woman's garbage and ran a test on it to determine that the woman was a crack user.

    So it is possible





    I bet there are some people here who would love to check every woman's used tampon and get a kick out of it...seems they have a "thing" for it......:roll:
     
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    It would be non-existent. :)






    Can you please explain what SIDS has to do with it?

    You DO realize that it is BABIES, BORN babies that die of SIDS , don't you???????

    Every SIDS case IS investigated.

    It is the death of a BORN PERSON, it is investigated....
     
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    Whaler17 said:
    Thank you for the acknowledement that it is, in fact, a homicide.

    The future if it's legality? We will see.""""
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    FoxHastings said:
    We haven't in 45 years ! :)


    Calling homicide or bromocide won't change a thing :roflol::nana:




    But you couldn't refute """""We haven't in 45 years ! :)"""" It's a fact...... not C&P , NOT immaturity...a FACT :)
     
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    If it's not a person, then what should someone be charged with if they cause a woman to abort without her permission?
    (Like that guy who slipped a ground up abortion pill into his girlfriend's pancakes, or when a pregnant woman suffers a miscarriage as a result of a negligent car accident)

    Feticide?
     
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    Assault
     
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    On whom??
    The woman?

    Are you saying slipping abortion pills into a pregnant woman's pancakes isn't really any worse than if it was done to a woman who wasn't pregnant?
    Or that a getting into a car crash and causing a woman to bump her belly really hard should be punished the same as if she was pregnant and miscarried as a result?

    If a doctor, through gross negligence, makes a mistake while he's operating on a woman and it causes her to miscarry, should she be allowed to sue him? For what?

    Remember, you say it's not a person. So if anything, according to your logic, you'd be depriving a woman of a baby in the future she doesn't yet have.
     
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    Suppose I had a magic ray gun that could kill a fetus, without doing anything whatsoever to the woman it's in. (Other than the obvious effects that would follow from the fetus dying)

    Would that really be an assault on the woman's body?

    You say that's a terrible thing to do to a woman. But why?? If it's not a person then it's not so different from running over her pet poodle, is it?

    I'm just trying to point out that your position, that the fetus is lacking in any degree of personhood whatsoever, is logically inconsistent with reality.
    We all intuitively know/feel that there's someone in there if the woman is not choosing to get an abortion.
     
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    You think a fetus is no different than a pet poodle to it's mother! Wow, just wow....sick.
     
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    So it's sick to compare a fetus to a pet poodle, but it's not sick for a fetus to be killed because "it wasn't really a person" ?
     
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    Masturbation is homicide. Just think of all the human sperm lives that get smothered in cleanex every year.
     
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    Yes. It' all about the asault on the woman. Nothing more
     
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    That would be an assault on the woman. She owns everything inside of her
     
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    This is what I posted, ""You think a fetus is no different than a pet poodle to it's mother! Wow, just wow....sick."""

    In the context you used it is.


    The problem is that you just cannot see that it is the pregnant woman's CHOICE that makes a difference. You keep arguing all around the FACT that a fetus is what a woman decides it is...wanted or unwanted....YOU don't decide, the woman it's in decides and no one else... she RULES...
     
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    So we're back to the days of humans owning humans.
     
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    Has it harmed the woman in some way = then it is assault upon HER - you would be unable to charge someone with murder of a foetus if there were no evidence of foetal remains

    So let us turn this around - let us say that this "boyfriend" that is slipping abortifacients to his girlfriend is charged with murder - where is the body of evidence against him??

    Now goose and gander

    Woman takes her boyfriend to court charging him with murder of unborns because she claims he has been giving her abortifacients

    Which one is guilty???
     
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    But there is no magic ray gun

    Whether you like it or not the foetus is part of the woman

    Unless of course you are talking about fertilised eggs that have not been implanted. Is flushing those down the sink " murder" ?
     
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    Yes. All humans inside your body are your property
     
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    That is EXACTLY what Anti-Choice people want to do , OWN the bodies of pregnant women.....that's slavery and it's wrong.
     
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    Nope. Do us all a favor and stop taking your legal arguments from the movie legally blonde.
     
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    Nope! free to do whatever they want so long as they don'[ hurt or kill someone else, which abortion clearly does.
     
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