Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Your first source had this to say in terms of medical complications:

    Complications of surgical abortion
    Complications occur in around three per cent of surgical abortion cases. The risk of complications depends on how many weeks pregnant you are. Abortions performed in the first trimester are the safest. Most surgical abortions are performed in the first trimester.

    Complications of surgical abortion can include:

    • haemorrhage – bleeding after an abortion should be similar to a menstrual period. If heavy bleeding occurs the abortion may not be complete. Sometimes, treatment for this is to do a suction curettage of the uterus. Blood transfusion is rarely required
    • infection – a fever (high temperature) may indicate that you have an infection. This can be caused by an incomplete abortion or a sexually transmitted infection. Sometimes, women can develop a chronic infection called pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). Treatment for infection is with antibiotics
    • injury to the uterus – the walls of your uterus are muscular but soft. Sometimes the surgical instruments used for an abortion can injure (or ‘perforate’) the uterus. In rare instances this can cause an abdominal infection (peritonitis) and severe blood loss. This complication is very rare and, if it occurs, will usually be recognised and treated straight away
    • injury to the cervix – the cervix is stretched during an abortion. If you have multiple procedures the cervix can weaken – this is sometimes called an 'incompetent' cervix.
    An incompetent cervix can cause problems in later pregnancies, because it is too weak to remain fully closed under the weight of a growing pregnancy.

    These last two complications are rare, because surgical abortions are undertaken by experienced surgeons.[/QUOTE]

    No one said there were no complications merely that there were fewer than full term pregnagcy
     
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    The risks of abortion are totally unnecessary. You got to remember planned parenthood sells abortions to pregnant women to line their pockets. Remember what I said? PP is nothing more than a death cult seeking to destroy the youth of america.

    Do you approve of late term abortions? Whats your take on a moral perspective?
     
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    Are the risks of pregnancy “unnecessary”? Remember I just demonstrated that abortion is 14 time safer than giving birth

    Yes I approve of late term abortions

    The vast majority of late term abortions are done for foetal abnormality incompatible with life
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    It is ultimately up to the parents

    These are WANTED pregnancies, desired pregnancies gone horribly tragically devastatingly wrong
     
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    So, they go out recruiting women to have abortions?

    Do you know PP is the only organisation in America to significantly REDUCE the abortion rate?

    https://www.bustle.com/p/does-plann...-republicans-are-ignoring-this-key-fact-30933
     
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    Pretty much a rehashing of every old, debunked abortion troll thread over the last 5 years ... time for some new material.

    And the day God makes every uterus perfect, every egg implant perfectly, and there is never a miscarriage - THAT'S the day we can talk about "God's will ...".
     
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    Why do you think Im trolling?? Can we not have an honest discussion about abortion in the abortion forum? I AM NOT A TROLL NOR AM I ATTEMPTING TO TROLL ANYONE. Im sorry if someone interpreted a post to be troll like material, but I can assure you that I only wanted to have a spirited debate about this subject because it does very much interest me. I dont like the idea that 60,000,000 lives were cut short and I want to talk about it.

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    Hmmm from I.ibb.com - wonder where that is?
     
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    This is not debunked. You abortionist enthusiasts think you can hide behind Roe V Wade and exploit the law when you need to. Just because you CAN do abortions does not me you SHOULD do abortions. These babies feel pain as they are ripped limb from limb. It's a very sick , very sick practice that Trump is working hard to stop. Like i said, it goes against the very principles of our society and it's NOT what the founding fathers would have intended for us.
     
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    If you are disputing the credibility of this pie chart go right ahead. But Im telling you right now its 100% legit. Let it sink in for a moment so you can understand the gravity of what abortion has taken from us.
     
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    This is my account you are welcome to look through it... lots of good stuff in there...
     
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    Abortion quotas are very real and yes, planned parenthood does have them. This has been confirmed by multiple ex planned parenthood employees.

    I find it a bit ironic that I should give PP a pat on the back for reducing abortions considering that is where they make most of their money. They dont provide ultrasounds unless you are going to have an abortion. No prenatal care whatsoever.
     
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    I love how you assume "he" would complain about welfare. You just love to stereotype posters and build strawmen. You forget to assume he is a WHITE (the most, reviled by you) male and maybe guess his age and height and weight.
     
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    Would you murder a baby because it had down syndrome? How about any other "defect"? Just kill it from an overabundance of "compassion"?
     
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    Huhh huh ughh!!! Thanks for the chuckles. Now proceed with the unsourced, memes! Meme the enemy, oh enlightened one! Now finish him with a mortal meme!
     
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    It has been debunked

    Just check the multiple threads in this forum

    Now do you want to enter into the murky world of foetal pain. The obvious attempt to confound typical early term abortion with late term abortion and your lack of knowledge of the history of abortion in the USA
     
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    With pleasure!

    I have already dismantled a couple of his “arguments “
     
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    What part of “incompatible with life” is difficult to understand?
     
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    Proof?
    Come on you have to have something

    Project Veritas maybe?

    Ask yourself this. “ if planned parenthood is working on quotas why are they one of the top providers of LARC”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29253581/
     
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    That is far from adequate as it could have been made in under 5 minutes with an excel spreadsheet
     
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    shall I send ou pictures of women dying in childbirth? you are full of crap about 60 million dead babies due to Planned Parenthood. You have no idea what Planned Parenthood does but you make it sound like they perform millions and millions of abortions. Actually their main job is to limit pregnancies when women don’t want to be pregnant and family issues, . I’m sure you don’t care about preventing women’s cancer which is part of their procedures.. You care about zygotes more than you care about children. When you bring in Joe Biden and Ukraine and ignore Donald Trump I really have to laugh because I have your number ...buttercup
     
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    Your ignorance about Planned Parenthood is downright offensive. What do they have to do with late term abortion’s? They do not do that. If your wife or daughter Will die during childbirth would you allow her a late term abortion? What you are doing is creating a false scenario. Healthy women with healthy fetuses do not get late term abortions.Do you think women are so shallow that they wait until the end of the pregnancy to have an abortion for no reason? They don’t , buttercup.
     
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    Actually, the Founding Fathers were not against abortion and it was not illegal in the US until the 1860’s. Just one more thing you are wrong about.

    That’s what happens when you come on to a political board and start creating threads that go right down the approved list for RNC talking points - you get a lot of things wrong.

    You also start rehashing the same cut and paste arguments that the last RNC dude posted. Try something original next time.
     
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    Did you not read anything I said? The declaration of Independence is 100% against abortion. Life Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness. has nothing to do with killing unborn babies. This sick practice needs to be stopped now. And Trump is working on that. He has already de-funded planned parenthood to some extent. This is good because abortion is murder.

    But do tell, how you get around life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Our children have RIGHT to LIFE.
     
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    Sheesh, same old trite erroneous unresearched crap the Anti-Women faction always uses....can't even come up with anything new..

    And Planned Parenthood doesn't sell body parts, they barbeque them behind the clinic and, with a little coleslaw, they have a picnic...

    Oh, and ya, those people WHO WERE NEVER BORN sure caused a lot of problems in the world LOL!:roflol::roll::roflol::roll::roflol:
     
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    "For my clinic specifically, we were required to perform 1,135 abortions per year, so we're selling those abortions to pregnant women who are coming in. At Planned Parenthood, one of their mottos is that every telephone call and every client visit must be turned into a revenue generating visit. Well, the only way to make a profit off a pregnant woman is to sell her an abortion, because Planned Parenthood doesn't provide any prenatal care."
    Former Planned Parenthood Manager Abby Johnson

    https://www.adflegal.org/issues/sanctity-of-life/investigate-their-plan/key-issues/abortion-quotas
     

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