100% FALSE, and you know it. I find it sad that in order to poorly attempt to support your claims you feel the need to literally re-write world history. The Nazis and their Fascist allies never ruled over Ukraine, eastern Poland, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Italy, Serbia and western Russia???? Wow, its like in your mind Operation Barbarossa never happened. Do you also believe Hitler never invaded The Netherlands, and was Mickey Mouse's brother? yes, around 800,000 Jews were deported to Poland, that means Poland had a total Jewish population of close to 4 million Jews, and yet after WW2 only 300,000 Jews remained. How'd that happen, huh buddy? 100% FALSE!!!!!! and you know it. Nowhere in the minutes of the Wannsee Conference does it state that Jewish WW1 veterans or Jews over the age of 65 would be spared deportation and be allowed to stay in Germany and their other home nations, unharmed and unabused. Dude, if you're just gonna make things up and literally rewrite history to fit your political agenda, there really is no more point discussing with you. But finally, the Wannsee Conference makes it clear that the extermination of the Jewish people was their ultimate goal. See below from the Wannsee Conference minutes: "Under proper guidance, in the course of the final solution the Jews are to be allocated for appropriate labor in the East. Able-bodied Jews, separated according to sex, will be taken in large work columns to these areas for work on roads, in the course of which action doubtless a large portion will be eliminated by natural causes. The possible final remnant will, since it will undoubtedly consist of the most resistant portion, have to be treated accordingly, because it is the product of natural selection and would, if released, act as the seed of a new Jewish revival." "State Secretary Dr. Buehler stated that the General Government would welcome it if the final solution of this problem could be begun in the General Government, since on the one hand transportation does not play such a large role here nor would problems of labor supply hamper this action. Jews must be removed from the territory of the General Government as quickly as possible, since it is especially here that the Jew as an epidemic carrier represents an extreme danger and on the other hand he is causing permanent chaos in the economic structure of the country through continued black market dealings. Moreover, of the approximately 2 1/2 million Jews concerned, the majority is unfit for work. Clearly, the elimination of the Jews of the East and those deported to the East, was the Final Solution. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge this is either dishonest or ignorant.
https://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Holocaust/wansee-transcript.html The Wansee Conference, where the extermination of the Jews of Europe was made clear as day to all but those who refuse to see the truth about the Nazis. The irony is that many of those who claim the extermination did not happen, often argue that the Jews deserved to be persecuted & exterminated due to their "communist allegiances". Its also funny how the HDs argue that the Nazis only deported the Jews to Poland, meanwhile the Nazi leaders of Poland wanted their Jewish problem to be dealt with first. So, where were the Jews of Poland to be deported to? Mars? Uranus?
Of course Operation Barbarossa happened. It was Germany's National Socialists, themselves who declared that they only had 4.5 million Jews under their control at one time. They should have known as well as anyone & why would they lie? I've already posted 2 sources that confirm what the Wannsee Conference Minutes clearly state and I'll post them again for you to re read.(1), (2) However, I'm not going to play this diversionary numbers game with you until you answer the question you've been evading for months. That question remains: Why are there no human remains anywhere near the numbers claimed at any of the German run work camps(3)? Treblinka underwent 2 thorough underground examinations and neither team of researchers could find a single mass grave(4), (5). As you know, countless Germans have been executed for mass murder, genocide etc just as the fraudulent Holocaust Industry - Lobby(6), (7) has extorted over $100 billion from various countries, industries and entities around the world with no end of the reparations in sight but yet the human remains simply aren't there. If 1.5 million and 850,000 people were really murdered at Auschwitz and Treblinka, where are the bodies? I hope you'll finally answer this compelling question and then I'll be glad to discuss anything related to this topic. (1) "CHAPTER 2: THE NUMBER OF JEWS UNDER NAZI CONTROL" http://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/chapter-2-number-of-jews-under-nazi.html Section 9: There Were 4.5 Million Jews under Direct Nazi Control EXCERPT "If there was one group which would have been interested in establishing exactly how many Jews were under German control, it would have been the Nazis themselves. In this regard, the official German records offer an astonishing insight. The Nazis estimated that the maximum number of Jews under their control at the Reich’s height was no more than 4.5 million—and they would have had no particular reason to lie or exaggerate. Figures produced by the German government and submitted to the famous Wannsee Conference in January 1942, listed the following numbers of Jews in territories under Nazi control:"CONTINUED (2) "The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed" http://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/ EXCERPT "The actual minutes of the Wannsee Conference can be read in their entirety—in the original German here, In reality, the Wannsee meeting and its minutes do not contain a master plan to kill Jews; – Nowhere in the meeting’s minutes is genocide discussed, planned, proposed, or even suggested; – The Wannsee meeting never discussed gas chambers, shootings, or any of the fantasies propagated by the exterminationists; – The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control(yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government); – The Wannsee meeting was a planning meeting on how Europe’s Jews should be deported, via transit camps, to the East; with able-bodied Jews being forced to build roads and other labor intensive tasks in those regions; – The Wannsee Conference also made allowance for specific exceptions to Jewish evacuation, such as Jewish German World War I veterans; ALL Jews over the age of 65; and ALL Jews working in industries vital to the German war effort, to be released from the threat of evacuation and be allowed to stay in Germany. There is therefore, no justification for the allegation that the Wannsee Conference was a ‘master plan for mass murder’ and everyone who claims this to be the case, from Netanyahu down, is simply lying."CONTINUED (3) “Air Photo Evidence” http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html EXCERPT "The Bottom Line" "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." (4) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust” https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363 EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED (5) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves” https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED (6) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (7) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
Are you deliberately misusing the word "exterminate" again or did you forget? I've already shown you that the word "exterminate" is frequently deliberately mistranslated to demonize the speaker. What Hitler, Himmler and other German speakers of the time meant by exterminate was: "drive out, expel, put aside, drive beyond boundaries," *exterminate (v.) 1540s, "drive away," from Latin exterminatus, past participle of exterminare "drive out, expel, put aside, drive beyond boundaries," also, in Late Latin "destroy," from phrase ex termine "beyond the boundary," from ex "out of" (see ex-) + termine, ablative of termen "boundary, limit, end" (see terminus)."CONTINUED * https://www.etymonline.com/word/exterminate
Feeling cool, eh? Never heard of Poles being deported by the Russians to Siberia and the Gulags? Soviet repressions of Polish citizens (1939–1946) .... the Soviet Union secured the lands east of the rivers Pisa, Narew, Bug and San. The area amounted to about 200,000 square kilometres, which was inhabited by 13.5 million formerly Polish citizens. .... Many of them committed treason against the Polish state by assisting in round-ups and executions of Polish officials. Their enthusiasm however faded with time as it became clear that the Soviet repressions were aimed at all peoples equally. ..... Soviet invasion of Poland 500,000 Polish nationals imprisoned before June 1941 (90% male)[1] 22,000 Polish military personnel and officials killed in the Katyn massacre alone[2] 1,700,000 Poles deported to Siberia in 1939-1941[3] 100,000 women raped during the Soviet counter-offensive (est.)[4] 150,000 killed by the Soviets The WWII Polish deportations – still an untold story How can the forced deportation of up to 1.7 million men, women and children of whom only a third survived not be common knowledge? http://polishatheart.com/the-wwii-polish-deportations-still-an-untold-story Read much more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939–1946) ------- Does that give you an idea where the missing Jews went? They are not mentioned here separately, but equally treated like the Poles. Have the Russian authorities ever been accused of war crimes? Not that I have heard. Neither got any of the Western allies accused or hanged. But only the Germans are guilty and are still hunted 80 years later!!! Soon they will pull them out of their graves, because the show has to go on!!!
Thanks for clearing up the "mystery" about. the "missing Jews" many of whom were alive and well in Brooklyn as of 2013. (1). Even Jewish sources report that the world's Jewish population grew rapidly over the war years (2) which would not have possible if 6 million had been killed as per the fraudulent holocaust narrative. Now, I'm just waiting for @Ronstar to explain why there are no mass graves in or around any of the German run camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka. (1) "Special Passover delivery for homebound Brooklyn Holocaust survivors" https://nypost.com/2020/04/05/special-passover-delivery-for-homebound-brooklyn-holocaust-survivors/ EXCERPT "According to a 2013 report by Selfhelp Community Services commissioned by Congress, Brooklyn had more than 42,000 of the New York metropolitan area’s Holocaust survivors in 2011, by far the largest concentration of survivors in the region."CONTINUED (2) "Was there Really a Holocaust?" https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED (3) "JEWISH POPULATION NUMBERS IN 1933 AND 1948." https://rafzen.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/jewish-population-numbers-in-1933-and-1948/ EXCERPTS "In other words, according to the World Almanac the world population of Jews increased (!) between 1933 and 1948 from 15,315,000 to 15,753,000. If the German government under Adolf Hitler had – as alleged – murdered six million Jews those losses should have been reflected in the Jewish population numbers quoted in the World Almanac. A Factual Appraisal Of The ‘Holocaust’ By The Red Cross The Jews And The Concentration Camps: No Evidence Of Genocide Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jews avoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continued throughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey." CONTINUED
Funny how you guys can't tell us WHERE the 3 million Jews of Poland were "deported" to. Or where the 800,000 Jews deported during Operation Rheinhard, ended up. Or where the 430,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to. That's 4.2 million missing Jews, and does NOT include the missing Jews from Russia, Ukraine, Romania. More than 1.5 million missing Jews from these countries. Only one nation on Europe saw their Jewish population increase during the war, and that was Bulgaria. Are the missing 5.7 million Jews in Bulgaria??? LOL!!! Maybe they all went to the USA? Nope, only 200,000 Jews were let in from 1933 to 1945. But whatever, this is getting boring. We know these Jews are gone, they didn't get sent to Siberia, or the USA, or Palestine. They died, either by gassing, shooting, starvation, torture, by the Nazis or their Fascist allies. The End
Just a minute... I still have a story to share: A Polish girl's journey across three continents Danuta (bottom right) with family. When Soviet troops marched into Poland on 17 September 1939, it was the beginning of an extraordinary journey for schoolgirl Danuta Maczka. For Poland, it was the start of a war that would leave millions dead and many more scattered across the world as refugees. Danuta Maczka, now in her 80s, lived through this time. Her life traces a remarkable odyssey from her farmhouse in Poland, to a labour camp in Siberia, to Iran, Palestine and Egypt - and then her new home in London. Danuta was born a country girl in Rovne, eastern Poland (now Rivne, Ukraine). She lived with her parents, brother Stefan and sister Zosia in a whitewashed farmhouse surrounded by cherry trees. In September 1939, Danuta was looking forward to starting grammar school - her father had already bought the blazer. Then life turned upside down. German troops blasted into Western Poland - and Soviet troops arrived in the East. By winter, Soviet NKVD agents were rounding up the Polish army officers who would later be murdered in secret at the forest of Katyn. Ordinary families like Danuta's hoped they'd be left alone. The knock came at 06:00 on the dark, snowy morning of 10 February 1940. Danuta remembers the voices at the door as the Russian soldiers ordered her parents out. They took what they could carry - food, warm clothes and blankets and bundled on to a sledge. "I looked back," Danuta says "and there was my little dog, running and running after us, until he couldn't run any more." Hundreds of Polish families were crowded around Lubomyrka railway station. Some already understood that they were being deported to labour camps in Siberia and Kazakhstan, as civilians potentially hostile to the Soviet Union. No-one knows how many Poles were deported in those weeks, but most estimates reckon about one million. "We were put on a cargo train," recalls Danuta. "It was full - 72 people in each wagon. There was a hole in the floor for the toilet, and a little stove." The Poles sang hymns and songs as they crossed the border out of Poland. "There were planks to sleep on, like shelves. I climbed up to the top plank and lay looking out through a grating. I saw Russia going by - just empty spaces and snow." All the way, Danuta recorded what she saw in her diary. As the journey wore on, babies fell quiet and died. "The guard would come and throw the dead babies out of the window into the snow. When an adult died, they'd put the body on a platform by the engine. When the train slowed, they'd put them off. But the children they just threw away." The Poles eventually arrived at the Siberian logging camp where they would work. It was part of the old Gulag prison camp system - a complex of timber huts deep in the forest. There was no perimeter wire as there was nowhere to run to. The forest was eerily still. "There were no birds singing in the forest. No animals, no wolves or bears. There were not even mice. Nothing. There was nothing there. Perhaps the prisoners had eaten the birds, I don't know. But I never heard a sound." Danuta's job was to strip bark from birch logs and feed them into a saw mill. She and her younger sister Zosia walked along the railway tracks to find tiny forest settlements. There they could trade their possessions for food. Danuta kept an autograph book in which she recorded the events of her early life - from her schooldays in Poland, to the labour camp in Siberia and in the Polish army. She and her friends drew sketches and wrote poems in it as keepsakes. Danuta’s friend Jadwiga drew these flowers in Siberia, with pencils brought from Poland. The girls imagined fantasy lives in beautiful places, while working in a labour camp stripping birch-bark. The Poles arrived in Tehran after two years in captivity. Thousands of Polish orphans grew up in children's homes in Isfahan, speaking Persian as well as Polish. Some have remained there to this day. Danuta's sketch shows the invalid camp in Tehran. Many Poles fell ill with typhoid and dysentery. Danuta collapsed and almost died of typhoid. Doctors there kept her alive on peach juice. Danuta learnt to drive a three-tonne Dodge truck in Gedera, Palestine, along with other Polish women. They drove for days across the desert in North Africa. Men were astonished to see the Polish girls behind the wheel. In June 1941, Hitler invaded the Soviet Union. The captive Poles were now Soviet allies. They were given the choice of joining the Red Army or forming their own Polish army in exile, which was to muster in Uzbekistan, in the far south of the USSR. Tens of thousands of Poles went south. Some boarded cargo trains once again, cramming into filthy wagons for days. Many thousands died of typhus inside - Uzbek villagers recall opening the train doors and bodies falling out like sticks. Other Poles hitched rides on carts, or lashed-up rafts, keeping alive by eating raw potatoes in the fields. The Poles marshalled at Guzar in Uzbekistan, under Gen Wladislaw Anders. Danuta added two years to her age to make 18, and joined up. She embroidered a white Polish eagle on her uniform herself, and stuffed her huge boots with straw so they would stay on. The Anders army was like no other in modern times. Not only was it formed in exile, but it travelled with all its dependants - husbands, wives and thousands of children, many of them orphaned. Anders led this huge, diverse population of Poles through Central Asia to the Caspian Sea, where they boarded oil barges and sailed to Iran. British allied forces met them on the beach at the port of Pahlavi. Danuta's wristwatch went first. "The people there had never seen a shop. They had never seen something like my nightdress - our things were marvels to them. So we had a little food and some seed potatoes." Danuta's mother grew enough to keep the family fed. "A lot of families died. There was a family nearby, seven children and the parents, and all of them died except one daughter. The mother had no milk to feed the little ones. There was no cow for milk. So they just died." As the winter of 1940 drew in, Zosia fell ill with pneumonia. There was a hospital, with beds but no medicines. On Christmas Eve, Danuta and her father went to visit her. "We went to her bed. We saw that she was dead. So my father had to carry her home. On Christmas Day he made the coffin and a little sledge to carry it. On Boxing Day we went to bury her. My father pulled the sledge and my mother and I walked behind, crying and praying. And we put her in the grave." In June 1941, Hitler invaded the Soviet Union. The captive Poles were now Soviet allies. They were given the choice of joining the Red Army or forming their own Polish army in exile, which was to muster in Uzbekistan, in the far south of the USSR. "It was just luck," says Danuta. "The British made us all walk through disinfection spray - and while we were in there, they burnt all our things. Like my school blazer. What was really lucky was that I took my diary and my drawing book into the disinfection tent - so they came out with me." The Polish orphans stayed in children's homes in Iran, but the military moved on to North Africa. Still only a teenager, Danuta became one of 800 Polish women and girls to work not as army nurses or secretaries but as military truck drivers delivering ammunition, petrol and food all over Palestine to Polish and British forces. "I drove a three-tonne Dodge. I was very small so I folded a blanket and sat on it so I could see over the wheel. The men were amazed to see us girls driving the lorries." Danuta heard her first English words from the British Tommies. "They called me 'Baby'! I didn't know what they meant. I learnt 'Baby', 'corned beef' - words like that." Many of the Jewish Poles decided to stay on in Palestine. Others, like Danuta, moved with the war to Italy in 1943, supporting Polish troops at the battle of Monte Casino. It was in Italy that Danuta met the young Polish officer whom she was to marry, and it was here the war ended for her. Danuta and thousands of other Poles were de-mobbed finally in Britain, where she was reunited with her brother Stefan and her parents. Some did return to their old homes in Poland. But Eastern Poland was now Soviet Ukraine, and they found themselves on trains to Siberia once again. Very few survived this second deportation. Gen Anders lived in London for the rest of his life. Danuta had six children and settled near Epping Forest. Her house in east London is crammed with plants on every windowsill, her garden overhung with cherry trees. They remind her, she says, of the farmhouse in Rovne she left 70 years ago. Look at all the wonderful pictures here: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19586595 ------ One of Danuta's daughters came to Canada and met up with one of my daughters! A few years ago, she and a film maker friend undertook to travel by bicycle the same route her mother had to take many years ago. Read about it here: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/yukoners-...rD3Be9b0d1V3pMLfFIFq8Ze8YuM-X-puwWzfC3meXCGPj I don't know how far they made it, I will have to investigate.
I've already shown that even Jewish sources show that the world's Jewish population grew over the war years(1) and there are no mass graves in any of the former German work camps containing anywhere near the casualties claimed(2) by you and the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (3), (4) So, I'll ask you the same question posed by one of my sources: " How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?" (1) (1) "Was there Really a Holocaust?" https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED (2) “Air Photo Evidence” http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html EXCERPT "The Bottom Line" "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED (3) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (4)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
Good, short documentation that anyone should see who's new to this topic. Knowledge protects against the traps of Holocaust deniers.
STILL MORE EVASIONS When are you ever going to answer the few simple questions I've repeatedly asked instead of posting slick and simplistic Hollywood - Holocaust Industry propaganda? Firstly, only a tiny percent of the world "denies" that the holocaust happened but at least 2/3 of the world rejects(1) the grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited holocaust conspiracy theory that there was a genocidal German agenda in which about 6 million Jews and about 5 million "others" were killed in homicidal gas chambers and other means. Secondly, why are there no human remains anywhere near the numbers claimed at any of the German run work camps(2)? Treblinka underwent 2 thorough underground examinations and neither team of researchers could find a single mass grave(3), (4). Thirdly, not one single homicidal gas chamber exists or existed at any of the German run camps. Not a single blueprint, work order, maintenance request, materials list or photo has been found in the tons of captured German documents. If millions of people were starved and herded into homicidal gas chambers, hundreds of gas chambers would have needed to accomplish the task but not one has been found. Furthermore, of the thousands of autopsies were conducted by Western doctors, not one person died via poison gas or deliberate starvation(5). The mythical homicidal gas chambers were simply part of the ongoing, profitable Holocaust Industry - Allied propaganda myth.(6) Finally, the British cracked the German enigma code and were able to listen to secret German radio transmissions. In all those radio transmission there was not one mention of a genocidal agenda or a single person being gassed to death(7). Why? I hope you'll finally address these facts that prove the holocaust story to be the most egregious, fraudulent and profitable conspiracy theory in modern history. (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (2) “Air Photo Evidence” http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html EXCERPT "The Bottom Line" "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." (3) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust” https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363 EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED (4) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves” https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED (5) “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas” https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/ EXCERPTS "Typhus, Not Poison Gas" "If not by gassing, how did the unfortunate victims at Dachau, Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen perish? Were they tortured to death or deliberately starved? The answers to these questions are known as well. As Dr. Larson and other Allied medical men discovered, the chief cause of death at Dachau, Belsen and the other camps was DISEASE, above all TYPHUS," CONTINUED (6) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED 15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606. (7). “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted. Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative. The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED
Yes, KNOWLEDGE protects against Holocaust! Did you know that the world renowned Noam Chomsky calls Elie Wiesel ‘one of the greatest frauds' of our time? Did you know that Noam Chomsky is 100% Jewish? Here is a picture-proof statement from him:
There's little doubt that Elie Wiesel, one of the High Priests of the Holocaustian Cult, was a shameless fraud who charged $50,000- for speaking engagements and insisted on arriving in a limousine. In a stroke of supreme irony, the wealthy Wiesel was defrauded of his whole fortune by Bernie Madoff. "Weisel Lost Everything to Madoff" https://www.cnbc.com/id/29428542
All your questions were answered multiple times somewhere in this thread. Multiple times, because you're asking them again and again. Will you repeat the questions until someone finally gives an answer that you like? That seems so to me.
Yes, the Nazis didn't know that Jews are normal people. So they committed the Holocaust. Why does Chomski believe that Wiesel is a liar? That's irrelevant. Even Jews sometimes tell nonsense.
If you had answered any of the questions I've asked even once I would not have to repeatedly ask them. Also, if you had answered any of these questions, you should not have any trouble showing me where.
I won't browse all 104 pages of this thread. I remember that others also answered some of your questions. The answers didn't please you, I think.
Israel commits terrible crimes. Israel claims to do so on behalf of all Jews. Israel thus increases anti-Semitism. Israel thus helps Holocaust deniers to tell the world that Jews are bad people.
Another "High Priest" in the Shoa Business would be Mr. Spielberg. Not sure if he is still alive. A certain Jewish professor, Roger Dommergue Polacco de Menasce wrote a letter to Spielberg: Dear Mr. Spielberg, I wish your honesty to be equal to your very great talent. I saw you on T.V in France. You declared that you would pour out Shoa propaganda in German schools. You mentioned that witnesses would be convinced for good, as to the reality of the Shoah (6-million-gas-chambers). I feel it my duty as a Jew and after 20 years of study of the historical problem of the holocaust, to call your attention to the facts. Facts are very stubborn and as no one can gainsay them, our congeners(?) have been compelled to make disgusting politicians enact Stalino – Orwellian laws which forbid to mention anything concerning the dogma of the “six-million-gas-chambers”, definitively reduced to perpetual worship of this alchemy. In case of no respect of silence and worship of the myth, you suffer the penalty of fines or prison or both. Professor Faurisson, who has been studying the subject for 20 years, has been practically massacred. This is utterly ridiculous, but give the Police and the Justice of all countries to Mr Lévy, he will not be ridiculous any more: here is the XXth century! These laws are, accordingly, the absolute proof of the fake before we study its arithmetical and technical ineptitude. No Sir, you will not find ONE witness who saw 6 million Jews slaughtered. You will not find ONE witness of Zyclon-B – gas chamber’s to exterminate 1000 or 2000 people at a time, close to the crematoria. See my “Shoa Sherlockholmized” herewith: it is the summary of 20 years study on the subject. The “6-million-gas-chambers myth “is an arithmetic and technical nonsense. As a matter of fact the howling, sniveling, Shoah business, 50 years after the war, is disgusting, debasing: it is a disgraceful shame. No people in History has ever been wailing about its losses 50 years after a war, even its true and real losses. Even if the 6-million-gas-chambers were true, it would be a dishonor to make such din and pump up so much money everywhere: who were the usurers of the Weimar Republic? You know it as well as I do. It is all the more so as we know that 6.000.000 is gross exaggeration and that the Zyclon-B gas chambers are a technical impossibility. (See Degesh Trial in 1949). In fact 150,000 or 200,000 Jews died in the German camps of typhus or starvation. Many others died but as fighters against Germany to which we, the Jews, had declared war in 1933! (Herr. Hitler was allergic to the hegemony of gold and of the dollar: so he could give work to six million unemployed, before the functioning of German armament factories!). Do you know the book published at this period and written by our congener Kaufmann: GERMANY MUST PERISH? We know that 80,000,000 Goyim were slaughtered in the USSR, in a political regime which was entirely Jewish, from Marx and Warburg, to Kaganovitch, Frenkel, Yagoda, the executioners. We know that after 1945 Americans and Russians killed and raped German communities all over Europe from Lithuania to Albania. We know that 1,500,000 German war prisoners were starved to death after the war (a quite famous book was published a few years ago, but is ignored to day). You will find there included in French the text of a rabbi: “A rabbi pleads guilty”: unfortunately I possess neither the German original nor an English translation. You should have it translated. The Rabbi condemns the Jewish behaviour in Germany 50 years before Nazism and vindicates the emergence of Hitler. As for the harm we have done to Humanity absolutely not redeemed by your excellent films or the virtuosity of Yehudi Menuhin, or the neutron bomb of S.T. Cohen, I wrote a book about it from texts written by important Jews which are much above the most anti-Semitic text written by Goyim. We know that all the German towns of more than 100,000 people have been destroyed during the last war, with women and children: silence about this real holocaust. If we consider the turn taken by the Shoah business, what you intend to do in Germany is actually the safest way to a heaping up of a huge amount of anti-Jewism the explosion of which will be unique in History. Discretion and moderation must be our behaviour: all the rest is suicide. Neither “mondialism” nor Orwellian laws for “crime of thought” can prevent antisemitism to explode: only OUR behaviour can. What you do and all the whining and money pumping can only egg it on. It will increase out of reasonable proportions, if there can be a reasonable proportion to antisemitism. I know that it is practically impossible to check our propensity to speculation and that only the abolition of circumcision, the 8th day could (our particularism derives from the disturbance of the 21 days of the 1st puberty, which starts precisely at the 8th day) but we must, at least, try to avoid such blunders as the one you intend to perform in Germany and which would be appalling. I am a great admirer of your films (except the Shindler list: ask his wife and the historical real reality, but this is a minor blunder). I hope you will scrutinize what I send you and escape the folly of the majority of our congeners. I will always answer you if you have the integrity to write to me. Cordialement à vous. Signed by: Dr. Roger Dommergue Polacco de Menasce. https://lightonlight.education/jewi...the-holocaust-and-warned-of-worldwide-weimar/ ----------- It might already have been posted here earlier, but it is new to me. This professor seems sane and sound of mind and his conclusions make perfect sense. I'm not sure what he means with "congeners". Please, read also at the bottom of the link: The «Shoa» Sherlockholmised by Prof. Roger Dommergue. Excerpt: 7. Why does the AMERICAN JEWISH YEAR BOOK, issue 43, page 666, inform us that in 1941, there were 3.300.000 Jews in occupied Europe? 8. How is it possible that the gas chambers could be just near the crematoria, when any chemist will tell you that Zyclon-B is hyper-flammable?
Of course I wouldn't ask you to re read this entire thread, I was only hoping that you could compose a substantive response to my Post # 2586. Would it be easier if I simply asked one question at a time; if so I'll gladly do that. So, here goes: Why are there no mass graves at Treblinka(1), (2), Auschwitz or any of the other German run work camps(3) that comprise "millions of people". Both the Red Cross and the East German government put the total deaths at every camp as 272.000, and 282,000 respectively.(4) Why would the Red Cross or especially the Communist East German government lie? So, where are the mass graves that contain "millions of people" whose billions of bones and teeth would be impossible to miss if they were actually there? Even after a thorough cremation there are bones and teeth that remain(5) so the holocaustian myth that all the bodies were reduced to ash is just another Holocaust Industry lie used to dupe the gullible. (1) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust” https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363 EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED (2) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves” https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED (3) “Air Photo Evidence” http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html EXCERPT "The Bottom Line" "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED (4) "INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS (IRC) DOCUMENT CONFIRMS 271 THOUSAND NOT 6 MILLION DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS" https://archive.org/details/auschwitz_201905 EXCERPTS: "OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS RECORDS RELEASED Sealed and guarded since the end of WWII at Arolsen, Germany, the Official IRC records reveal the actual Concentration Camp total death toll was 271,301 For years, people around the world – “the West” in particular – have been told that “six million Jews were systematically murdered by Germans in ‘Concentration Camps’ during World War 2.” Thousands of honest people disputing this claim have been viciously smeared as a hateful anti-Semite. Several countries around the world have jailed and heavily fined people for disputing the claim that “6 Million” Jews were killed. Red Cross and East German government figures put the total deaths at every camp as 272.000, and 282,000 respectively which includes homosexuals, communists, gypsies, murderers, paedophiles etc. The 6 Million figure is a Kabbalist number, a magickal figure which featured in news papers in the early 1900’s." CONTINUED (5) "9 Things About Cremation" https://www.elementalnw.com/2014/05/26/9-things-cremation/ EXCERPT "2. You don’t get ash back. What’s really returned to you is the person’s skeleton. Once you burn off all the water, soft tissue, organs, skin, hair, cremation container/casket, etc., what you’re left with is bone." CONTINUED
A New Program, Established by The Claims Conference and Funded by The German Government, Will Ensure Holocaust Survivors Globally Have the Means to Get To COVID-19 Vaccine Sites Claims Conference Secures $13.5 Million in Funding to Get Holocaust Survivors to Vaccine Sites New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio visited the Ezra Medical Center in New York’s Boro Park neighborhood to speak with Holocaust survivors who were getting their COVID-19 shots as part of the Holocaust Survivor Vaccine Assistance Program (HSVAP) NEW YORK, N.Y.: March 24, 2021— Today, Gideon Taylor, President of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (Claims Conference) announced the new Holocaust Survivor Vaccine Assistance Program (HSVAP) provided by the German government to support Holocaust survivors in the decision, organization, and vitally important process to get survivors to vaccination locations worldwide. The funds from the HSVAP, $13.5 million, will be deployed by the Claims Conference through an existing network of more than 300 agency partners around the world. Funds will cover costs including, organization of vaccination appointments, transportation to and from appointments, and coordination of follow up care and counseling for survivors before, during and after vaccinations as needed. Gideon Taylor, President of the Claims Conference said, “Many Holocaust survivors are vulnerable, and many are homebound. Getting a vaccine can be a scary step for a Holocaust survivor. Often, they need help getting through the process. Sometimes it is about holding their hands – figuratively and also literally. It is about survivors knowing that they are not alone.” Currently, there are more than 340,000 Holocaust survivors living around the world. Vaccination distribution varies greatly from location to location, but in many countries, there is ample vaccine but no system that ensures access through transportation, homebound coordination and support, both physical and emotional. The HSVAP is intended to address critical gaps in local programs that do not meet survivor needs, by providing local agencies who support survivors with the funds they need to ensure that Holocaust survivors are not lost amidst local distribution efforts. Claims Conference Special Negotiator Ambassador Stuart Eizenstat, who led the negotiations with the German government, stated, “This added support from the German government will expand our efforts to over forty countries in which Holocaust survivors live. Once national governments make vaccines available, we will be there to ensure that every survivor knows their options, has access to vaccines, and does not feel abandoned. We are very appreciative that the German government responded to our request for support for this essential funding in such a positive way.” “We have seen how this type of assistance can make the difference in getting this life-saving vaccine, In the case of someone who is homebound it’s not just a matter of having the vaccine, we must find a way to get the survivor to the vaccination location” said Claims Conference Executive Vice President Greg Schneider. “In Israel, for example, we are pro-actively calling 18,000 of the most disabled Holocaust survivors and offering ambulance service to vaccine centers. In the U.S. we estimate 45% of Holocaust survivors are not yet vaccinated. We are rolling out a plan in the U.S., Canada, and Europe to ask tens of thousands of survivors we estimate are unvaccinated to see if they need aid in scheduling or transportation for an appointment. As additional countries make vaccines available, we will rollout outreach plans.” The HSVAP is a one-time program, existing solely for the purpose of ensuring vaccine access for Holocaust survivors. https://www.claimscon.org/2021/03/c...-to-get-holocaust-survivors-to-vaccine-sites/ ------ I'm touched by the dedication the Claims Conference shows towards their most vulnerable elderly people! It is my hope that the money from the hardworking German people will not end up in the pockets of some greedy executives! After so much blatant fraud in the past it is questionable why the Claims Conference is still being trusted by the Israeli Government. Germany should ask for proof where the money went. Since 1952, the German government has paid more than $80 billion in indemnification for suffering and losses as a result of persecution by the Nazis. You really have to stand in awe and wonder, how that is possible! No doubt, they borrowed heavily!! But also worked their butts off! Not only under Hitler's leadership did the Germans survive and recover from the devastating loss of WWI and the famine afterwards, no, some also survived, recovered and rebuilt their remaining pile of rubble left after the loss of WWII under the Leadership of Adenauer, Willy Brandt etc. and in the end Mrs. Merkel's leadership! They may not have the Atom bomb, but they had the determination to clean up, repair, rebuild and renegotiate their right to exist.
RE: About the Holocaust SUBTOPIC: Further Usefulness of Criminal Investigation and Prosecution? ※→ Jazz, et al, BLUF: Yes, this is a case of counter-advocacy in favor of the anti-Israeli and pro-Arab Palestinian movements. (COMMENT) . First, let's highlight what is accurate in this Chomsky statement: ◈ [T]hey are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing. Then, let's highlight what is misinformation in this Chomsky statement: ◈ You can't defend yourself when you're militarily occupying someone else's land. What Professor Chomsky is saying is wrong on two levels. ◈ Level One: ✦ Protected persons (ie the Arab Palestinians) who commit offenses that are solely intended to harm the Occupying Power (the Israelis), are criminal acts under the Customary and International Humanitarian Law punishable under Artice 68 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. ✦ Protected persons (ie the Arab Palestinians) who commit acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power (the Israelis) are criminal acts under the Customary and International Humanitarian Law punishable under Artice 68 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. ✦ Protected persons (ie the Arab Palestinians) who commit acts that damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by the Occupying Power (the Israelis) are criminal acts under the Customary and International Humanitarian Law punishable under Artice 68 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. ✦ Protected persons (ie the Arab Palestinians) who commit intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons of the Occupying Power (the Israelis) are criminal acts under the Customary and International Humanitarian Law punishable under Artice 68 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. ◈ Level Two: ✦ The Israeli's never occupied any territory that was under the sovereign jurisdiction of an Arab Palestinian government. ✦ The Territory known as the West Bank and Jerusalem was occupied by the Jordanians and subsequently made part of the Jordanian Kingdom. ✦ As of August 1988, the Jordanian Government relinquished sovereignty of the territories and abandon them into the hands of the Israelis. ✦ In 1994, Jordan and Israel entered into a Treaty of Peace in which the International boundary between Jordan and Israel was recognized by Article 3 - International Boundary. ✦ In 1979 Israel and Egypt entered in to a Peace Treaaty n which Article 2 outlined the International Boundary. However, on 2005, Israel made a unilateral withdfrawal from the Gaza Strip leaving it to local control. Since then, the Arab Palestinians of the Gaza Strip have continued to commit act of war against Israel. This allegation that Israel is not allowed to act in its self-defense, without regard to the territorial status, is simply a deliberate attempt to smear Israel and justify Arab Palestinian Acts of Aggression. . Most Respectfully, R
The fact that the right of Israel to exist as a nation or its conduct is even discussed in the same thread as the Holocaust shows vividly how discussions about how the holocaust is always linked as a pretense to engage in discussions about the right of Israel to exist as a nation. It is a link that comes from the argument that Jews do not have a right to consider themselves a political collective identity and how the holocaust is trivialized when engaging in that position. Those questioning Israel's right to exist and those who question the extent and nature of the holocaust choose deliberately to trivialize the existential threat Jews as a people experienced forcing us to say never again. Its to be expected. At the pith and substance of this denial is that Jews should not have the same rights as anyone else to define themselves as a political collective. The same people that trivialize the holocaust or select out Jews as the only people in the world they have problem with having a nationalist identity speaks to a double standard. Israel is to Jews as Ireland is for Irish all around the world, Italy is to Italians all around the world, Ukraine is for Ukrainians from around the world and the same with 125 other nations who have the exact same laws as Israel when defining their national and ethnic identities. The fact that only the history of Jews is signaled out and denied speaks loudly.
RE: About the Holocaust SUBTOPIC: The Connection between → the Holocaust - and → the State of Israel. ※→ Jazz, et al, BLUF: Yes, there is some reasoning here. (COMMENT) Most people have some agenda; some latent as fingerprints and some as bright as a lighthouse. Statehood (Self-Determination) and Right to Exist (a Civil and Political concept) are separate and distinct from that related to The Holocaust (Genocide). But the confusion arises because of temporal proximity. (Self-determination being so close to the spark of the holocaust This becomes exceedingly difficult to explain to the bipolar and simple thinkers (two-dimensional). It is so difficult to explain (in the dimensionally limited) that the effort (at some point) becomes counterproductive. (COMMENT) The attempt to marginalize the Holocaust (Genocide) is an effort to shift on the question: Who is the Victim and when? You will notice that when it comes to the issue of "Apartheid" and "Genocide" the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) have no problem in claiming they are the victims of these Crimes - inflicted on them by the Israelis. It is a cute trick that almost goes unnoticed. The HoAP wants to cast the Israeli in the role of "NAZIs" and the Arab Palestinians in the role of "JEWs." (COMMENT) This is one of many observations that might be made on the issue. But the HoAP was not that smart to engineer that strategy. They fell into that strategy. The original anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian intent was to drive wedges in between the Jewish factions; both in the US and abroad. And it has its ebbs and flows (consistently increase and turning to decrease). What I found amazing is that the HoAP was able to mobilize the many "female" advocates and yet still apply the many Islamic pressures of male dominance. Most Respectfully, R
