you got it, it was a union bailout and screwing of bond holders and taxpayers I will never ever own a GM nor will my children. this was not like bailing out the electric or water company. Life would not have stopped if the GM union members had to take cuts after years of living high on the hog.
Tennessee Ranked No. 1 in Automotive Manufacturing Strength for Second Year in a Row http://news.tn.gov/node/7581 Case in point. Tennessee has been actively recruiting new auto plants since Alexander was governor before Reagan was president.
Um...you already admitted the difference: the Corvair was a good car. The Volt is a steaming pile of dung.
give it a few years..it's not very well built.. maybe after a few years when they get the kinks out but by then there will be something better..
How can you make the statement it's not very well built? Have you examined the car? Have you talked to anyone who owned it? Those that have are very pleased with it. Granted they had a problem with the battery leaking if it was hit right, but that has been fixed. I just love how people can make negative comments when they haven't got a clue. It's just another attempt to trash the car. We need Americans buying more of what we make, not foreign owned or made. The Toyota Prius is made in Japan.
Tennessee and Chattanooga gave up an arm and leg to get the plant. The American plants don't have that advantage As a matter of fact VW got such a big advantage from that plant, they can sell the car for $8,000.00 less than the one made last year in Germany, which can put American manufactures that sell in the same class as this VW at a big disadvantage. It is reported that the new state of the art Volkswagen auto plant located in Chattanooga, TN has provided about 2,100 jobs (Volkswagen claims 12,000+ jobs - many appear to be indirect jobs!) and possibly additional employment in the future. The automaker currently builds the all new Passat at the plant, however, other VW vehicles might be added down the line. The 2012 Volkswagen Passat is an excellent four-door sedan available in gasoline and diesel models that are competitively priced. This sounds like a win-win for Chattanooga and Volkswagen but what did VW get in the deal? Actually, quite a lot! It is reported that Volkswagen received the largest subsidy ever given to a foreign manufacturer. It included 1,350 acres of free land, 577.4 million in tax breaks, as well as 40 million to train workers. .. Continue reading on Examiner.com Kyle’s Corner (FYI) Chattanooga, TN got VW jobs but … two sides to every story! - National Automotive | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/automotive-...bs-but-two-sides-to-every-story#ixzz1nbLjmxET
You cited a customer survey, well they don't want to look foolish after buying them do they. Tell you what I have no obligation to do so, the fact is GE is forcing their employees to buy them and the charging stations. "General Motors and General Electric are two companies that have been in the political crosshairs lately. GM stands accused of “crony capitalism,” while GE is under fire for paying no Federal income taxes in 2010. The two companies share more than that though, with GE placing an order for 12,000 Chevy Volts and other hybrid vehicles. A memo leaked to Green Car Reports lays out GE’s plans for their new fleet of Volts, and as expected, it has some people crying foul. The memo, sent to employees of GE Healthcare Americas team explains that all sedan, crossover, and minivan purchases in 2012 will be replaced by the Chevy Volt. Only field engineers are exempt from having to drive a company Volt. GE will offer estimates for installation Level 2 Charging Stations, though all-gas use will be allowed when there is no electric option. Any employees who opt out of the Volt program will not be compensated for their expenses. Those who do choose to drive the Volt will be reimbursed for public charging and home charging costs, in addition to gas uses. While some people are probably put off by having to drive a Volt, GE claims to have crunched the numbers and believes that in the long term, this will save the multi-national company big bucks. More than that though, GE is positioning itself as a big player in the EV charging market. Getting employees into Volts also means getting charging stations into homes. It’s a bold move to be sure, and it will hopefully prove to be a boon to the Volt’s flagging sales numbers. GM had hoped to sell as many as 60,000 Volts in 2012, before dropping that number to 45,000. Will they even make that number though? Hard to tell, though GE’s business will go a long way towards giving the Volt some sales momentum. Source:http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1073034_ge-employees-get-chevy-volt-electric-cars-all-gas-use-oked-sometimes I am against all such government rebates and the only reason WE will lose MORE billions than we already have is because of Obama's policy of pitting some workers against others, primarily his political supporters against those who aren't.
And will reap exponentially more in return. When have they been banned from seeking such deals? The fact is they already own the land here and already have the employees, THEY have the advantage.
The only tax VW will pay the city of Chattanooga for the next 30 years is a school tax. Show me any American plant that is getting that kind of deal. The city is also paying to train all new employees. American plants aren't getting that deal either.
Right, but it's only the rebates to the Volt that people have been complaining about. At least until I bring that fact up, only then do you say all rebates. GE isn't forcing their employees to buy anything. They are switching company vehicles to Chevy Volts. Free cars to use on company business. They had to drive what other vehicles GE bought too. Nothing is different except the vehicles GE bought. It's to GE's advantage to buy Volts. They make the electric motors and charging system that go into Volts. That means more to make and the car will be like free advertising for Volt and GE. That's good for GM and GE. Complaining that employees are being forced to drive Volts is like the company buying Chevy trucks and saying employees are complaining of being forced to drive Chevy trucks. Hell if your getting a company car to drive around, who cares what it is? You guys will come up with any stupid excuse to put down the Volts and GM and don't think we all don't know what's behind it.
The suppliers will pay taxes, the employees will pay taxes. Your premise is false, American companies are free to make their own deals. They can get those deals but then that is what the unions are suppose to do for them.
I guess the bailout for Ford was okay. http://www.topix.com/forum/com/f/TTMDJ1SC1CVSCC916 Ford took biggest government bailout in history
Not to mention the fact we had to bail out Apple TWICE in the 80's. Imagine what the world today would look like without that company lol. Job's probably would have just stuck around at Pixar and run Disney. Meanwhile no Iphone, Ipod, or Ipad would ever have been created...
We bailed out a lot of companies. I have listed them twice. But it wasn't done by Obama so these Republicans aren't going to complain about that. They have grown to hate unions and hate Obama and will do anything in their power to bring both down, no matter how many Americans lose their jobs and how many billion we throw away doing it. The Party must come first before country. Sounds a little bit like Hitler.
Cost to operate a Chevy Volt Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph. According to General Motors, the Volt battery hold 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile. The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000......... So Obama wants us to pay 3 times as much, for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run, and takes 3 times longer to drive across country..... REALLY ?????
$1.16 for a kWh? That would make my electric bill $1,658.80 for the month instead of $168.80. at 10 cents a kWh. I'd move.
This is stupid. Who is going to stop and charge their battery after 270 miles unless your at the end of your trip, or your staying in a hotel for the might? You refill your tank and charge it up when you get to the end of your trip. Now lets look at the total electric Leaf. You can drive that for about 75-100 but then you have to spend 7=8 hours charging it. You aren't going to go very far driving that car unless you have weeks to cross the country. The Volt is meant mostly for work and around town. which in most cases you can do just on the battery. But you have an engine backup if needed. The Volt can be the only car you need, the Leaf can't if you travel at all.
Honda's hybrid gas/electric Honda Hybrid Lawsuit: Heather Peters Wins $9,867 From Honda In Small Claims Court LOS ANGELES — Heather Peter's computer crashed under the onslaught of messages following her unique victory over Honda in small claims court – a win the California woman is hoping will lead other consumers to reject a class action settlement over defective hybrid cars. Peters, who was at the center of a whirlwind as she welcomed camera crews to her home, said she has received more than 500 Facebook messages and had 6,000 hits on her website following a court decision awarding her $9,867 and finding Honda misled her into thinking her Hybrid could get 50 miles per gallon. She said the 2006 model, which she still owns, gets about 30 mpg. You can get better than that on a regular Civic.
