Alan Sabrosky, US Marine Corps veteran says Israel did 911

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    duplicate
     
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    No it doesn't. It's just like suggesting Germany has propensity because of WW1 and WW2! Ask a judge.
    And again. You simply avoid inconvenient questions! If as you claimed it was from a book, how did you type it in!
    Are you denying it came form a weblink?
    No. It always occurs when you encounter questions that force you to concede, alter your position or provide something that you don't like. You have evaded numerous posts in this way - fact.
    Really pathetic. You completely ignored everything I posted. Conspiracy theorists cherry-pick things and deliberately omit important details.
    They didn't. Nothing. Nice circular reasoning though, take the account of cherry-picking conspiracy theorist and assume it is accurate.
    Explain why your sources have accurate data on all simulators he had experience on! Who says his downturn was "perfectly executed"!? Turning an aircraft nose down is dead simple. It requires virtually no skill at all. So many strawman arguments. This crap about piloting has been dealt with thousands of times over the internet since it was raised 20 years ago. It is still total crap.

    Ignored by you, inconvenient huh? My pilots have a different opinion to yours!
     
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    @undertheradar FACT: You avoid inconvenient posts. The two quoted above have been completely ignored - tell everyone why that is!
     
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    I assume you meant to say something like, has propensity to be belligerent because of WW1 and WW2

    Well then:

    After WWI The Treaty of Versailles required that Germany disarm. At the Potsdam conference after WWII the victorious allies decided to abolish the German military as well as all weapons and ammunition factories and any other related industries that might support them.

    The allies did that for a reason.

    So what was that reason?

    You seem obsessed with this. Like I said, I gave the author's name. Not good enough for you? Then report it.

    End of story.

    This is about Israeli involvement. Talking about simulators etc. in this thread is considered off-topic. But go ahead and start a new one.
     
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    Who cares! It's irrelevant crap just like your statement.
    Nicely evaded for about the 4th time. You cut and pasted that from a link. Not a book. A link. You were the one who made noise about it.
    Well you started the off topic batshit about Hanjour!

    Has it really been 3 weeks and you STILL ignore major posts as highlighted above, whilst posting a totally meaningless reply.
     
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    I'll ask again: The allies did that for a reason. So what was that reason?

    I was merely responding to your unfounded claim in #81 that, 'The hijackers got on 4 planes at roughly the same time and hijacked them. Crashing them into big targets was the easy part.'

    So what! Sometimes I go months without signing in. What you fail to understand is that some people have a life outside this forum.

    You call it ignoring. I call it dismissal - because of irrelevance. If you want to know more start a new thread. Or if I get the time I'll respond in another.
     
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    Frustrating huh, when the person doesn't respond properly! Same answer - Who cares! It's irrelevant crap just like your statement.
    Which WAS on topic and exactly accurate - there are plenty of threads about this crap and it isn't "unfounded". Your response was derailing..
    I was "merely" pointing out that it took 3 weeks and your answer was lame and you still avoided the big posts up top!
    Wow, that's pathetic. Another totally lame post where all you are doing is arguing about nothing. Two large posts that contradict your rubbish claims about Hanjour and you say they are irrelevant? Nice dodge!
     
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    You call it 'irrelevant crap' so you can ignore it.

    Here, I'll answer for you:

    The reason the allies did that was they knew Germany had a propensity to wage war again because of the previous wars. Similarly, Israel had a propensity for involvement in 9/11 because of the previous terrorist attacks against the US and Britain.

    If you can't understand that it's because you don't want to.

    Not a dodge. I'm willing to continue the discussion but it's got to be in another thread.
     
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    No, let me explain. It's irrelevant crap and that's why I ignore it. Boy that must be frustrating for you. Seriously you want me to elaborate on a side issue showing your "argument", in itself a really poor side issue, has no merit.
    Uhuh.
    So the Germans did have propensity, as did absolutely any country in the world the US had engaged in recent military conflict with! But somehow the Joos did it because of some batshit 911 "theory". Amazing cherry picking.
    If you can't understand how pathetically low Israel is in the propensity pecking order it's because you don't want to.
    Oh amazing so your multiple dodges aren't dodges after all? You wait until everyone nods off with boredom at this ridiculous 20 year crap before you come back on it?
     
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    Ok, I'll humor you.

    Explain why Israel is so 'pathetically low' in the 'propensity pecking order'.
     
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    That doesn't humor me, it baffles me how you can not work it out.
    I'm going to give you a clue how to solve this tedious strawman.
    Nations that have been in military conflict with the USA.
    https://archive.globalpolicy.org/us-westward-expansion/26024-us-interventions.html

    If you think your useless reasons (that are totally irrelevant anyway...since they only needed to hijack and crash the planes!) are superior to numerous nations that the US has had military conflict with, well then it's because you "don't want to" believe it!
     
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    What's all that got to do with the historical fact that Israel/Zionist Jews have conducted false flag terrorist attacks against the US and UK, and so therefore it's quite possible they've done it again?
     
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    Hmm, so the Israelis are more likely to attack the US than Arab nations who have been carpet bombed? Or countries that have had military activity with America?

    It's all so very tedious. The "ultra-complicated" plan involved the hijack of 4 planes and then crashing them. That's it. Everything else is conspiracy batshit.

    Twenty plus years on and people are STILL raking up the same crap.
     
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    Why would Arab nations who have been carpet bombed conduct false flag attacks?
     
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    What the hell are you talking about!? It's the "trufers" who call this a "false flag". It was a revenge attack from Al Qaeda.

    So let's reword your question to reflect this: Why would Arab nations who have been carpet bombed conduct revenge attacks? The answer being "well duh".
     
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    Scroll down to where it says,

    FUN BIRTHDAY PARTY
    AT SLAUGHTERHOUSE

    http://web.archive.org/web/20031004171252/http://www.public-action.com/christmas.html

    So five hundred Chabad Lubavitch rabbis from all around the world gathered on the Pentagon lawn to celebrate the birthday of their late leader, Rabbi Schneerson, at exactly the same time that Flight 77 allegedly hit the building six months earlier - exactly six months earlier - to the minute!

    Why!

    They then sang 'Oseh Shalom' which translates as "May he who makes peace in high places, make peace for us and for all Israel, and let us say, amen."

    Why hold this ceremony at this place and at this time?

    Why?

    And not surprisingly this received no coverage in the MSM.


    As I mentioned in the other thread Public-Action.com is now offline so those links won't work. But The Wayback Machine confirms that that was a valid link:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20030801000000*/http://www.jewish.com/news/lubav0315.shtml

     
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    I'm waiting for you to agree. The answer is well duh! What reason do you give for saying otherwise?

    Ignoring yet more irrelevant anti-semitic hogwash. Planes hit all targets, Al-Qaeda admitted liability. I'm fairly sure that given even the slightest chance, an Arab leader would implicate Israel without breaking a sweat. Yet, Al-Qaeda admitted liability. Why indeed wouldn't it be a revenge attack? CCTV showed them getting on the planes that all took off.

    We should start a 911 "CLUE" game to cover all the ridiculous permutations put forward by "trufers":

    CHARACTERS: The Joos/the US Gubment/The "Cabal"/Al-Qaeda/The Saudis/Nobody it's all fake/Bart Simpson
    METHOD: Space weapons/Nukes/Planes/Holograms/Missiles/TNT/it's all fake/Aliens
     
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    I read all Bollyn's works before 2010. The OP is right on the mark, even though he publishes enough truth to make you nauseous.
     
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    Of course you did. But then again so what? He's another failed trufer who contrives garbage.
    Nope.
    He publishes enough something to make people nauseous, but it's not the truth. Thanks for yet another opinion laden, evidence-less post.
     
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    Bollyn's work make you and all those credulous souls who still believe the OCT nauseous, especially the Israelis who staged the event. Truth has a way of doing that. It's a wonder Bollyn is still alive.
     
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    Well, Marines have never been known as the intellectual branch of the US Military, though I respect them highly... Just getting through basic is an accomplishment.
     
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    Kind of, mainly at the underlying stench of bullshit though.
    Haha. The Joos did it.
    Well no. Truth isn't nauseous, and what has that got to do with anything you have EVER posted?
    Circular reasoning that actually doesn't work. Hilarious. The idea being covertly suggested is that the "ebil gubment" or in this case "the Joos" silence the purveyors of batshit warriors for the truf, and the poster is amazed that one such example has been left to live. The obvious answer is either a) they don't actually do that and/or b) he is making up crap.
     
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    Israel owns the federal government, and it shows in 911 as Sabrosky points out, and again in Gaza today.
     
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    Pretty much the same nonsense as post 121. The thing is, bare assertion is not a very convincing thing in science. So, do you have anything remotely useful in the way of evidence?
     
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