Alan Sabrosky, US Marine Corps veteran says Israel did 911

You didn't read the book by a sailor onboard, but I did.

Was this revenge some months later? Report reveals story of Israeli sub sunk in 1968 (ynetnews.com)

 

Yeah... Joe sailor knows all the facts... LOLOL. Submarines? Wow... don't pull any more...!!! That stretching will BREAK!

 

The truth is often shocking to the senses.

 

I am only shocked that you have never provided any truth or hard evidence … just a bunch of **** about Jews in the government, pilotless drones and mini nukes … you’re catching up with Scott on batshit claims … congrats …

 

I remember the Liberty attack, have read a bit about it and tried to look at it objectively.
Some of the most compelling evidence that it was a deliberate attack comes from an extremely ethical and courageous Israeli pilot(1) so it is not a condemnation of all Israelis to say that some vicious Israelis planned and executed the attack to get the US to attack Egypt and who else ?

The fact that the IAF used unmarked French Mirage fighter jets is proof enough that this was as much of a False Flag Op as the Lavon Affaire just 13 years before.

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This is the first I've heard of this revenge attack on an Israeli sub but I did read that a Russian sub was in the area of the attack also listening to the radio traffic.

Thanks & enjoy your weekend,




(1). "Israeli Pilot Speaks Up"
https://www.wrmea.org/1993-june/the-assault-on-the-uss-liberty-still-covered-up-after-26-years.html

EXCERPT "Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."CONTINUED

 

I don't know how often you've been shot at but they are memories that you don't forget.

As an American Veteran who went on active duty just 2 years after the attack on the Liberty, I can closely identify with the men aboard the USS Liberty.

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Please clarify.

Thanks,

 

You and I signed up about the same time.
Shooting and hitting someone is a lot more difficult to forget than being shot AT.

 

Full article:
https://www.unz.com/article/the-9-11-double-cross-conspiracy-theory/


Is it true that “9/11 was an inside job”? Yes, in so far as Israel is “inside” the U.S. But for the 9/11 truthers who have identified Israel as the main perpetrators, “9/11 was an inside job” is at best a half-truth, and at worst an integral part of the Zionist operation, like a secondary flag sewn as a lining under the false flag of Islamism...

Filling the background with other documented Israeli false flag operations (the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946, the Lavon Affair in 1954, Israel bombing its own embassies in Argentina in 1992 and in London in 1994, etc.) could have turned such a movement into a tsunami. The “inside job” theory, on the other hand, can never reach a critical mass, for a simple reason: the idea that the U.S. government would, by itself, deceive and terrorize its own citizens by killing thousands of them to justify wars in the Middle East that are not even in the nation’s interest is just too hard to believe for the vast majority of Americans — harder to believe than the official narrative with its material impossibilities. By comparison, Israel attacking America under the false flag of Islamic terrorists to win American support against their Arab enemies makes plain common sense.

...while the Pentagon attack can only have been staged from within the Pentagon itself, the WTC attacks bear the unmistakable signature of Israel.

Those who had the means to bring down the Twin Towers and Tower 7 were those who owned these towers and controlled access to them. They were almost exclusively dual citizens with a strong loyalty to Israel and intimate connections to Israeli heads of State. To begin with, the three towers belonged to Larry Silverstein, whose complicity is so well established that I need not repeat the arguments.

Silverstein is “Israeli job”, not “inside job”. He figures at the highest rank among the 15,000 sayanim in the U.S. — in the estimation of Gordon Thomas in Gideon’s Spies (2007). So does his partner Frank Lowy, friend of Ehud Olmert, Ariel Sharon, Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Barak, and founder of the Israeli Institute for National Strategy and Policy. So does Ronald Lauder, who, as chairman of the New York State Privatization Commission — or was it as president of the World Jewish Congress — granted the lease to Silverstein and Lowy.

In the same New York gang of super-sayanim must be counted Zionist billionaire Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, who insured the Twin Towers but took the precaution of reinsuring the contract with competitors. In 1993, Greenberg took control of Kroll Incorporated, which provided security throughout the World Trade Center complex. And in 1999, his son Jeffrey Greenberg became CEO of Marsh & McLennan, which happened to occupy floors 93 to 100 of the North Tower, precisely the floors where an American Airlines Boeing crashed...

Flights AA11 and UA175 that crashed into the Twin Towers were also, in all probability, inserted in the war games, but in those two cases, additional help appears to have been needed from the Mossad. Both flights allegedly took off from Boston Logan airport, which subcontracted its security and passenger management to Huntleigh USA Corporation, bought in 1999 by International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS), an Israeli firm headed by former Israeli military officers and veterans of Israeli intelligence agencies, including Menachem Atzmon, a treasurer of the Likud party and close friend of future Prime minister Ehud Olmert (2006-2009). (Huntleigh also controlled Newark Airport in New Jersey, from which UA93 allegedly took off before allegedly crashing in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, but I will not include UA93 into the equation in order to keep it simple.)[10] So Israel’s fingerprints are found not only all over the Twin Towers, but also around the flights reported to have crashed into them...

Kevin Barrett has noted, “(The Jewish festival of) Purim exalts and commemorates an ancient operation very much like 9/11. It glorifies the deceptions of Esther, who concealed her Jewish identity to seduce the King of Persia, then slyly tricked him into slaughtering 75,000 people deemed ‘enemies of the Jews.’” That is the deeper truth of 9/11: like Zionism itself, 9/11 is biblical.

 

Because my draft number was especially low and I was staying out all night wrecking motorcycles and doing dumb stuff, I went ahead and enlisted while everyone else I knew either went to university or "Military Lite" (i.e. Naval Reserves etc).

One friend of mine joined the Navy to avoid the joys of service in S.E. Asia only to find himself part of the "Brown Water Navy," i.e on a River Patrol Boat.

By the way, you're right about having to shoot someone else being more memorable than being shot at. It's not like TV and there have been times when I dreaded going to sleep because of the nightmares.
Just seeing what modern munitions do to human tissue is enough to make anyone oppose another war, anywhere.

Thanks,

 

I've ignored the rest of your article as it is totally irrelevant. Four planes took off, got hijacked and crashed. Suicide fanatics were responsible. Airport "security" on internal flights prior to 911 was virtually non-existent. Suggesting anyone needed help getting on an internal flight at that time, is absurd!

And that, JUST that is the flimsiest of involvements suggested. Yet, as stated, the security was handled by US personnel.

 

I was career Army. Field Artillery. I appreciate ATACMS. Saves lives... ours. I'm a West Point graduate. I served for decades... in peace and combat. Let's not play "My military career is better than yours" OK?

 

I didn't intend in any way to denigrate your impressive military career.
What did I write that was offensive?

Thanks,

 

Excellent perspective, but the aircraft that struck the towers were drones, meaning they were NOT AA11 and UA175

 

The testimony of the Israeli pilot is particularly relevant.

 

That poor Israeli pilot was sent to jail because he refused to participate in the massacre of American G.I.s.

The next time you run into another Israel Firster who is still a "Liberty denier", ask him why the the IAF even strafed the lowered life rafts if the attack was an accident (1).

Many thanks & keep up the good work.


(1). "The Forgotten Sneak Attack"
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/09/the-forgotten-sneak-attack/

EXCERPT "The life raft taken by the Israeli torpedo boat and the wheel of the torpedo boat that succeeded in hitting Liberty are on display at Israel’s National Maritime Museum in Haifa. In Israel, those who participated in the attack are celebrated as national heroes."CONTINUED

 

Do you have more information on the aircraft / drones / flying carpets etc that hit the towers?

Very early photos of the Pentagon show a hole that is much too low to the ground to have been a commercial airliner plus there was not nearly enough debris at the crash site.

I try to remain objective in regard to 9/11 but there are just too many troubling facts that refute the official narrative.

Thanks,

 

and after all these years, you have never presented evidence of these claims (I know you tried but it has all been completely debunked much like you nuke “evidence”)

regarding your claim about the Pentagon, I suggest you watch the Wayne Coste presentation narrated by David Chandler … I doubt you will watch it though as not a single conspiracy theorist I deal with here has had the balls to watch it … surprise me …

 

https://911speakout.org/wayne-coste/

The real truth, is that if any 1 of the 4 planes as recorded did not crash, an enormous and idiotic logistical nightmare ensued. Covered in my thread and not a single one of these people has done anything other than spam a video! The truth is shocking to their "senses"

 

A very telling interview (starts @ the 22.30 minute mark) with a seasoned pilot.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/YKqJfkmkgOhe/

 

The Counter Punch article is no longer there, and I'm not surprised. I used to read CP all the time, but it has evolved into nearly mainstream media, a pity.

Early on, MSM carried reports about WTC that were eventually removed. Several of those reports were phone calls to NYPD from people who saw the North Tower strike, maybe a dozen such phone calls. More than half of those reports described the airplane as being smaller, a corporate type jet, a commuter type jet, not a big airliner. A now defunct organization named Pilots For 911 Truth, of which I was a member, did have surveillance video from a Manhattan parking lot. In the background was the north facing side of the North Tower. Only for 3 seconds or so, it clearly showed the aircraft strike. It was a smaller aircraft, as reported by calls to NYPD. That lasted for about 6 months or so, but eventually TPTB removed it too. The logical conclusion is that it was some sort of drone.

On the South Tower everybody saw it and filmed it. Yes, it was a 767, but all the photos show that by external fairings at the wing root it was not a stock 767. It was not UA175, but another drone, likely from a batch of about 2 dozen modified for the tanker role in USAF by an Israeli company, delivered to USAF some months prior.

The Pentagon strike was some sort of smaller drone, NOT AA77, not an airliner as you mention. The target there were the records being audited by congressional auditors, the subject of a House Committee hearing chaired by Cynthia McKinney the day before, with Donald Rumsfeld as main witness. The bulk of the casualties at the Pentagon were those auditors, and of course the records being audited were destroyed.

 

Ok, so basically you have nothing then and your source has now come to its senses and is less into batshit.

Discussed in my thread and evaded by all no-planers! The logical conclusion is that the one video showing the strike says it is exactly what is claimed. Try not to use the word "logical" when you aren't being so.

Discussed in my thread and evaded by all no-planers! There are no "external fairings", it is a standard 767.

A whole lot of hogwash there. The plane was a 757, there were no records irretrievably destroyed and the area struck was the Naval Command Center.
9/11 Conspiracy Theories | Debunking Pentagon Plane Crash Myths (popularmechanics.com)

I wonder why the "no-planers" never use logic and critical thinking. Or show up to explain the incredible problems with their batshit claims!

The absurdly unfeasible problems with "no-planes" on 911 | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics

 

Now, why would I say that I try to look at 9/11 objectively and then refuse to read something related to it ?

I read the article but haven't yet looked at the video yet because it's over 5 hours long.

I'll look at it eventually but in the meantime, there are just too many things about the official narrative that just don't don't pass the smell test.

For example, I'm a blacksmith who has worked with hot steel for 30 years and a topical coating of jet fuel would not cause structural steel to fail.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,



"Explanation of the Evidence at the Pentagon on 9/11"
https://911speakout.org/wayne-coste/

EXCERPT " [One puzzle with regard to large plane impact is the survival of the second floor segment of Column 14" CONTINUED

 

That link sectioned it into smaller videos.

That is an absurd strawman. Raging office fires cause it to fail.

And try logic. The building CLEARLY shows bowing at the impact point and gives way just there. How does that "smell", because suggesting fire proof explosives magically rigged by psychopathic demolition experts kinda stinks to high heaven!?

If you are a blacksmith, then you would know what this guy knows:


Steel weakens massively when heated to just 1200 degrees Centigrade. There are plenty of engineering sites that can confirm this basic thing.

 

Sorry the above was a quoting mess up … Ibhpe @Grau can figure it out because I’m on my phone and can’t fix it now …