Alec Baldwin kills one,inures another with Prop Gun on set.

Does this apply for Trump voters too?

 

Does what apply?

 

Actually these facts are indisputable. Baldwin killed someone with a gun. Nothing accidental about it. It’s negligence.

 

So far, according to news reports, Alec actually pointed a gun he did not himself check, AT a human cinematographer, and, presuming it was a 45 caliber Single Action Army revolver, cocked the hammer, and squeezed the trigger, killing her - a violation of every basic gun safety rule there is.

If Trump were filming a campaign add of him as an old west Sheriff and the same thing happened, he and his entire family would already have been burned alive.

 

Yes and he was also the producer on set and there had already been at least 2 negligent discharges prior on set. He continued production.

Also there are reports of using the gun onthe set for target practice (live ammo).
It's unlikely the producer missed this.

 

I do blame Baldwin. If my Mother/Sister/Aunt or whatever was killed in the same fashion I would be livid if the shooter wasn't prosecuted because "he feels bad" about it.

Negligent Homicide.

 

Sadly, that's probably true.

How far we have fallen

 

Indeed. We just don't make good lynch mobs any more

 

OK then Perry Mason, we'll see what happens wont we.

 

Anyone that knows anything about gun safety knows this. Certainly wasn’t self defense or intentional but homicide is still serious with consequences.

 

https://conservativebrief.com/alec-baldwin-manslaughter-53251/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=539


Erlinda Johnson, a former state and federal prosecutor and current criminal attorney, said he could be liable for involuntary manslaughter.


“All the state needs to demonstrate is that he was engaged in a lawful, but dangerous act and did not act with due caution,” the attorney said. “That’s what the state has to prove for involuntary manslaughter, which is a fourth-degree felony with a maximum penalty of up to 18 months in prison.”


She said Baldwin could defend himself by saying that someone else handed him the gun, “but then, well it was incumbent upon him, since he was handling the gun, to make sure there were no rounds.”


“Clearly someone didn’t do their due diligence. They should have been checking those guns to make sure there were no live rounds,” she said.

 

Well Dah!. Of course someone failed to do the their job properly. The question is who?

 

The shooter for one.

 

Oh, now you're equating 'Robert' (who in reality, NONE of us here knows) with a belligerent, loudmouthed hyperliberal like Alec Baldwin? And you're comparing having a car accident with DELIBERATELY snapping what was supposed to be a replica firearm at someone else without even bothering to personally check the gun to see what the hell was in it?!

It's pure guesswork on my part, but I'll bet my last .357 Magnum round that 'Robert' never took any kind of weapon -- real or replicated -- and WITHOUT BOTHERING TO CHECK IT, 'dry-snapped' it while it was pointed at another human being. I can't prove that, but it can damn sure be proven in what Baldwin did!

Are movie sets dangerous places? Evidently they are, especially if they're populated by negligent half-wits like Alec Baldwin....

 

If this were a normal person he would be charged with manslaughter, and reckless discharge of a firearm. Maybe even more. So does being rich give you license that’s above the law?

 

The shooter is the only one. Gun safety is up to the operator of the firearm. If he didn’t check his firearm to ensure it was not loaded with a live projectile then he is at fault. It is up to the gun owner to check his weapon, and he is responsible for any projectile that leaves that barrel and any damage it causes.

 

He was stupid and reckless. His actions are partially (but only a small amount) responsible for the death.

Maybe this shouldn't be punished, but if that is the case we need to rethink a lot of things in the justice system. People get severely punished for causing deaths through automotive accidents all the time.

I think at the least he should have to pay for the burial costs, however.

 

So, assuming for a moment that your statement above actually is true that makes it all right to do the same thing to Baldwin? What an interesting take on ethics morality you have. It's OK for me to do it to the 'other' side because they would do it to my side.

Here's a radical idea. What if no-one, regardless of their political beliefs gets convicted before the evidence is heard. I seem to recall some kind of similar idea being written down somewhere. But what the hell Baldwins a 'lefty' so what does it matter.

 

he was on a movie set, no guns are supposed to have real bullets in them, they hire people to make sure they are safe

they need to find the person that put a gun with a real bullet in it on the cart

from what I heard sounds like some were using the guns on the set for target practice in their down time

this is like a parent leaving a loaded gun and their child shoots some one, actresses and actors do not expect their prop guns to have real bullets in them, nor should they have too

 

I think we absolutely need to rethink our justice system. And I absolutely agree that he should have to pay for funeral and other costs. Or the studio. Whoever the judge decides is most at fault.

 

what did Dick Cheney get charged with?

these are actors on a set, this is a workplace accident, the one liable is the company

now if they can prove who put a loaded gun on the cart, they too may face criminal charges - leaving a loaded gun where others can get access to it is a there fault

 

If any non-leftist American killed a woman with a gun someone else handed him, you would see a total reversal of the posts here defending Alec - but we have to walk on eggshells about it. This is Character and Integrity in 2021...

 

The armorer was responsible for the conditions of all the guns that were to be used in filming. There should have been a check when the gun was issued that day and Baldwin should have checked it again when he took possession. This gun sounds like it was especially open to an accident since the crew used it for target shooting and live rounds were stored in the same place as blanks. My guess would be that a live round from that target shooting was missed when it was reloaded with blanks. Given his strong anti gun stance I wonder if there was anyone on set that actually understood how a firearm should be handled.

 

10 minutes of training fixes that.

 

The only one responsible is the one handling the gun.