Alien abduction cases.

Discussion in 'Other Off-Topic Chat' started by Jack Napier, Feb 23, 2012.

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I think alien abduction cases are usually...

  1. Dreams.

    7.1%
  2. Episodes of psychosis or mental health issue

    35.7%
  3. A result of drink or drug abuse

    7.1%
  4. Lying for attention seeking

    7.1%
  5. Lying for personal gain financially

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  6. In some cases, possibly real accounts of an actual event

    42.9%
  1. old timer

    old timer New Member Past Donor

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    So the story goes.
     
  2. MisLed

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    perhaps just the opposite.
     
  3. old timer

    old timer New Member Past Donor

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    Some folks will say anything just to get attention.
     
  4. MisLed

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    you got some expert that says different?
     
  5. old timer

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    Nope. But after all isn't it all just what one choses to believe.
     
  6. Jack Napier

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    How well do you know this Chinese farmer, his background, and his psyche?

    How can you be certain what he may or may not have been privy to, in his life?

    You can't.

    But I am pretty certain that he did not have sex with some alien being, and I can barely believe that he told this to his wife!
     
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    A dream then.

    It's about as much a fantasy story, as the alien abductee or the alien contactee who claims some special information came to them in a 'dream'.

    Angel in a dream...I mean...come on!!!
     
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    I see.

    So if you don't believe in god, you are what...more likely to be an alien contactee?

    What do you base that on?
     
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    If aliens abduct humans, why do they bother to return them to earth?

    Why not keep them on board the space ship to store the humans as lab rats.
     
  10. Jack Napier

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    Well, it is sort of hard to second guess the motives of beings that are most likely imaginary, in the context of events, that are also likely to be imaginary.

    The short answer to your question would be .. 'whatver motives one's imagination conjurs up', maybe?

    Btw - I think there are those that claim that some 'aliens' actually do precisely what you suggest.
     
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    why would benevolent creators of the race of man abduct man and conduct terrible experiments on him. Wouldn't they already know what they know because they put man here?

    Wesley Streiber's book. I can't remember which one but i can look it up. In it he says that one of the messages he received from these beings was to 'live with your sin'. Now. what an odd thing to say. What would be the ramifications of that. Living with your sin? of course if you're not familiar with the bible or what's in it, that might sound like pure wisdom to you.
     
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    Do you believe in fairies and leprachauns? Banshees, elves or any of the other various and sundry little people>
     
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    Anway, here is a Las Vegas man who actually claims to be able to summon 'UFO's, by way of messages that he found in the OT, lol.

    Oh, and he has been able to do it for 25 years, but only went public a few years ago, after a voice in his head 'told' him to do so.

    So, nothing at all odd there then.

    Lol - absurd, but no more absurd than the claims of religous prophets etc, who also made fantastic claims, based on dreams and voices.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrQsQQ83Wrg&feature=related"]UFO Prophet from Las Vegas - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    No gods, pixies, fairies, leprechuans, unicorns, angels, demons, and devils.

    No.

    Probably a whole lot more besides.

    Why?

    Do you?
     
  16. GeneralZod

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    One of my favourite tv shows, now online. www.richplanet.net

    Rich, on his space ship high above the earth (with graphics 1980s tv shows would be ashamed of) talked to guests on all sorts of conspriacy matters.

    Some were alien 'experts' who talked at length about the many species of aliens on our planet and the control they sought to the world goverments.
     
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    Not really sure I follow, but are you somehow suggesting that aliens are some sort of creation of, or disciples of the 'devil'..?

    Because this would just be getting way to silly, if so.

    You would then take one thing that sounds implausible, and is unproven (the aliens kindapping people to stick probes up their butt), and then compounding that by proposing another unproven and mythical slant on top - the so called 'devil'.
     
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    His messages were likely made up or delusions.

    Lot in common with the works of the bible, and other such things.

    Man loves a fable, esp one that promises fantastic things, new worlds, or everlasting life.
     
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    No i don't. But many people did and some still believe in these old manifestations. But most of us have gotten a little too intellectual for that...so now we go for Ets and big foot and chupacabra..anything that is in direct opposition to what is in the bible.

    Apparently you put some credence into these stories of alien abductions and the Prophet yahweh? of course, in this day and age when more and more people are turning their backs on God, more sightings of these alien beings will be forthcoming. I just don't believe they're from space like outer space. It is my opinion that they are demonic in nature. Satan is said to control the air. These beings come in the air, disappear at will, faster than the speed of sound and yet we hear no sonic booms. Oh i expect you'll bust your butt trying to justify why these things are valid but God and His Word are not.
     
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    Difference between god/aliens.

    God can't be proven, even after millenia's of religious/philosophical study. So people like Mr rich hall etc.. and other alien buffs are focusing their attention to ufo study. They use todays technology (internet, space images etc.) to try and prove their own conspriacys.

    And for me peronsonally, the ufo obsessed are far more entertaining than the religious believers.
     
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    Man loves fables? Then that says to me that you know that you are outnumbered by the 'religious'.

    but didn't you initially put credence in these ufo experiences?
     
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    I personally voted that most of those who experience, or claim to experience repeated abductions are likely experiencing some manifestation of a mental illness, a period of psychosis, or hallucination.

    I consider that to be more plausible than some intelligent life form singling them out from an early age, so that they can put little bits of metal under their skin, and show them silly images of what earth will look like unless we (do whatever).

    There are also those that may just be plain lying. If someone claims to have been transported from one city to another, in seconds, then my common sense might tell me that if they are not experiencing a manifestation of a mental illness, then the next likely explaination is that they are simply lying.

    The same would be applied to all those, down the ages, who have made similar claims of their given day.

    This would include those the experience of Moses, and those that claimed that a murdered man rose from the dead, then sort of ascended up into space.

    Again, the most plausible explaination is that they are deluded or lying.

    I am consistant with all such things.
     
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    There is no evidence of Bigfoot either.

    Therefore, I give Bigfoot as much credence as leprechauns.

    And gods.

    And demons, and angels.
     
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    I find it hard to believe that here, in 2012, we appear to have a Western women thinking that aliens are demonic in nature, and some sort of trick of the 'devil'!:xd:

    Have I just gone back 400 yrs, when people used to think that witches could really do magic, and were seen as, well, what do you know, the very same thing as the member is saying about the 'aliens'.

    Btw - if there were any, no wonder they do not wish to meet us, en masse. If people like this member are ready to pre judge them, despite knowing NOTHING about them, at all, in reality.
     
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    you've already responded to that. Why again?
     

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