All Senate Dems vote against barring taxpayer funds to fly illegal migrants to US towns

Your right.

320,000 were.

We need effective laws. Not political laws. You are advocating for politically driven laws.

 

Yah I’m not so sure about that.

all to NY?
And it’s you’re.

 

Fascism has got a grip on the left..

 

Yes.

There was a process.

People migrated through elis island:

Arrival and Inspection - If an immigrant's papers were in order and they were in reasonably good health, the Ellis Island inspection process lasted 3 to 5 hours. The inspections took place in the Registry Room (Great Hall) where doctors would briefly scan every individual for obvious physical ailments

It wasn't and never has been a free-for-all, people running across the border, disappearing into society or claiming asylum if they got caught.

That's all partisan fodder to push a political agenda.

 

All Senate Dems vote against barring taxpayer funds to fly illegal migrants to US towns

Of course. Buying future votes is a great use of our money to these cretins.

 

Just stop calling them vermin or saying they poison our blood and maybe they’ll vote republican. Better yet, stop calling people who didn’t break a single law, illegals.

 

We didn’t even have border patrol until 1924 and that was to stop the Chinese from coming in that way. we had pretty open immigration in the 18th and 19th century. There are no immigration records for my dad’s family coming in the early 1900s. They just showed up in the census at aliens.

 

There weren't literal millions coming across the border. Immigration into the US was more controlled than it is now.

 

Yet Biden has a controlled way to reduce those coming in, and still righties attack it and call them illegal. Boggles the mind.

 

I mean.. when it comes to visas it's literally an application process which the government either accepts or declines. If one's visa is accepted, then by every legal and literal definition, they are not here illegally. To say they are here illegally, you are objectively wrong.

 

That of course is true- provided the process is true to law, and not abuse of power. The squatters write their own fake leases and use them to retain legal rights to -and the system protects that abuse in most states.

A proper visa includes qualification to standards and vetting. You don't hand them out like free passes to anyone who walks over the border, or who is brought in without that process.
And of course, the illegality is not just in being here with an improperly issued visa- the people who distribute such visas are in violation of the law; should be removed from their position and prosecuted.

The border issue is not over immigration as a yes or no decision. It's not about discrimination by color or nationality. It MUST be about the quality of the immigrant. The ability to be a contributing citizen or resident, to honor our laws and respect the nation. Anyone who violates the law to get in the door and bypass the process is therefore immediately disqualified.

The proper path for any such person would be deportation without further debate, and being disbarred from ever entering the country again for any reason.
The proper path for anyone facilitating that would be prosecution and penalty. Those things are crimes by existing laws- and all laws have a purpose, a spirit or intent. That is the reason a law becomes a law in the first place. Distorting laws to technically evade their intent should be equally criminal.

We expect criminals to "game the system" when they can. When the people in public office do it, the nature of the transgression is massively greater- and should not be tolerated.

A legal process only exists to deliver a result. The objective IS the result, and anytime a process is distorted to avoid the objective- the process is being "gamed" and the intent of that IS to violate the objective and spirit of the law.

Anyone who enters this country without proper application and vetting- IS DOING SO ILLEGALLY. Anyone who facilitates that- is aiding and abetting a violation of law.

 

A controlled way? That includes essentially telling them all to come here, and changing the rules on asylum overwhelming the system to the point that hundreds of thousands of their cases are dismissed.

Yeah. Great plan. Typical of lefties.

 

Chaos and open flood gates instead of borders is not control. Nor intelligent. Nor American. It's betrayal of the duty to the American citizens.

 

Those flights are not saying everyone come it.

 

That's paragraphs of literal nonsense, we're not talking about leases, we're talking about visas. There is an authority within the federal government that determines the legitimacy of visas, and that is the US Department of State. Individual states do not use visas, because visas are a federal matter under the jurisdiction of the US Department of State. There is no person/public officer who unilaterally approves a visa, all immigrant and non-immigrant visas are approved by, and in conjunction with the US Department of State.

 

The amount of mental cart wheels tou have to perform to avoid the point and deflect is astounding.

 

Nonsense is giving passes to people who violate the law. It's giving credence to people who support that.

Unfortunately, what's legal and what's right and wrong no longer have much in common- because it's being determined by corrupt people put in office by corrupt people who have no pride in their country or themselves. There is no "legal" immigrant in the USA who has entered illegally.

When people can't grasp the offensive failure of law allowing a squatter with a fake lease to take over the home of an honest citizen, they probably won't be able to see that twisting the definitions of law doesn't make anything right- and it isn't something to be proud of, let alone to support.

The people entering illegally are squatters, and that includes those entering under distortions of the law and its spirit, because we have corrupt politicians allowing it. They are not immigrants; they are invaders, whose first act on coming to America is violating the law.... clearly stating they do not intend to respect our laws.
They are not coming to contribute to the nation- they are coming to feed on it, and we have corrupt fools in office inviting them to do so, and giving away the wealth of hard-working citizens to accommodate those squatters expectations.

What kind of person would legitimize that? It wouldn't be a person with self-respect, with pride in their country. That breed of American is being replaced by people who, like the squatters- think everything should be free. Same motivations as the squatters, but with citizenship. Willing to take their own country down and piss on it's future- and the future of their own descendants.

Regardless of what a person says- What we do is who we are. You can't change that by labeling it legal or anything else.
There's not much left to be proud of in America- yet the people who need that most are the ones destroying it.

 

Red states are shipping the illegal aliens to sanctuary states. Seems it’s backfiring for you.

 

More paragraphs and absolute nonsense

We're not talking about people who entered the country illegally, these are people who were granted their visa, and flew in to a US airport, and went through immigration and customs. By every legal and literal definition, these are not illegal immigrants.. this isn't subjective, to call them illegal immigrants is objectively wrong.

 

So more congressional seats? Nice!

 

The people being flown in broke no laws.

 

Wrong. These people were not properly vetted. They were brought in by a corrupt administration ignoring the will of the American people to benefit his personal power objectives.
One can distort interpretations of law to "justify' anything. Only a fool buys that.

 

The squatters moving into your house while you are on vacation aren't breaking laws either.

 

Yah I think they are.

 

What’s the basis for your claim they aren’t vetted?