Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Do you know what it means by "gender-balanced child care?"
     
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    All 50 states prohibit closely related couples from marriage because "GAY marriage' isn't about equality and is instead inequality by design for the benefit of the gays.
     
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    It was the first step, laid out in the Constitution.
     
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    That would be an argument for extending marriage to any two consenting adults who desire marriage. "GAY marriage" is about special treatment for the benefit of gays. Inequality by design.
     
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    The north even then was largely anti slavery and of course they didn't want the blacks in the south flooding into the north just like we don't want the Hispanics from the south flooding in now. Doesn't make them or us racist.
     
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    Yeah, the topic of the thread. For some reason, we stopped shaming people that became pregnant out of wedlock. This is one of the greatest attributes to poverty. Stop subsidizing it.
     
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  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Again I reject the premise if your post that if we can't reach utopia then we encourage and support nothing and do not encourage and support and sanction what is best for the children.
     
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    I told you I don't care about Palin, abstinance works when you practice it and birth control is readily and widely available, more so than ever.

    And we still have this cultural shift towards out of wedlock birth and single mothers and children not being raised in the nuclear family and what appears to be a social acceptance of it.
     
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  9. Bluesguy

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    Do you know what a mother and a father means?
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Of course not .

    But I am practical enough to know that there is no way to stop people from divorcing AND that sometimes two people staying together ALSO can harm children.

    Just because two people marry and stay married does NOT mean their kids will be A-OK.

    And divorce doesn't send kids straight to crime and drugs and sex...


    YOU have stated that people are influenced by their parents. Well, then HOW do you plan on changing that? How will you develop perfect people if we're all influenced by our IMPERFECT parents?


    You are hoping for some Utopia that has never, and will never, exist


    "We" can do anything they please...but I'm a little too busy with MY life to go out campaigning to end divorce...most people DO have better things to do..
    YOU go right ahead but I have NO responsibility for anyone else's marriage....I'm too busy minding my own business....I don't expect anyone to butt into either my marriage or my divorce..


    Who said that? It wasn't me? Did you see that in a dream?

    I think you just posted that hyperbolic irrelevant crap to avoid addressing my :

    ""YOU have stated that people are influenced by their parents.
    Well, then HOW do you plan on changing that?
    How will you develop perfect people if we're all influenced by our IMPERFECT parents?



    You are hoping for some Utopia that has never, and will never, exist """







    EXCEPT I never said that.

    If "misrepresentation" of what I post makes you all warm and fuzzy and feeling like you did something noble ( because you have nothing else to offer) go ahead....but my post is above and I think posters can judge who said what and see that I really didn't say what you claim....because I didn't..
     
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    Yes, but preaching abstinence doesn't work.






    So , :) it looks like you may be wrong about both BC and abstinence :)
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    It works when you practice it and birth control is cheap and widely available.

    Tell me do you believe women should purposely have children out of wedlock not providing a father for the child?
     
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    Yes that is the premise of your disjointed posting.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Yes, but preaching abstinence doesn't work.

    So , :) it looks like you may be wrong about both BC and abstinence :)




    Yes, but preaching abstinence doesn't work....and I have the entire history of the world to prove it :)



    ..and NO ONE is obligated to use it.



    I believe women have as much right to do what they want as you do.
     
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    NO, it isn't and you can't PROVE that it is because I never said what you claim.
     
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    agree, two good loving parents is the ideal, the gender is not as important
     
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    I disagree, calling children born out of wedlock 'bastards' did not benefits children in the least, in fact it often harmed them
     
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    I'll try to make this quick. I know a woman who raised 4 children for 25 years while her and her husband fought like cats and dogs, showed each other total disrespect and NO affection and set a horrible example of what marriage is to their children.
    Now all four have , guess what, relationship problems !!...and parental respect problems, one even hit her mother.

    Yet this woman is totally against gay marriage because the gay's children might see the gay couple hugging and kissing , showing each other warmth and kindness and respect....and she thinks that will "turn" their kids gay!
     
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    I do not know what is making republicans Morals shift to Trumpism

    if you would of told me Republican would support a man that attacked Gold Star Families and War Heroes a few years back... I would of said no way

    the Republican party is changing, but I think the party needs to look at themselves, not try to blame it on others

    how many women does Trump have children with? how many times has he committed adultery, how many wives has he had?
     
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    Birth of a child obligates only two people in the world to provide and care for that child. The mother who gave birth and the man who caused her to do so. Presumed to be the husband if she is married. Without those two, the child has only the hope that someone else will voluntarily assume those obligations.
     
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    Lots of sleazy people out there.

    Sniff and f—.

    Animals.
     
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    Which rules at Donald Trump as dating or marriage material.
     
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    So instead of addressing the problem you prefer to be partisan and engage in your TDS. Oh well...............
     
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    So mothers and fathers aren't important in a child's life?
     
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    It is exactly what your post are saying Eutopia or nothing.
     

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