Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Which brings us full circle to the thread title.

    Signaling Cultural Shift
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NO, it isn't and you can't PROVE that it is because I never said what you claim.




    Nope , you didn't prove a thing...and duh, it's "Utopia".
     
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    Humans can engage in any personal endeavor that is not harming those they do this with.

    Are you complaining that I believe in human freedom over Democratic party law making?
     
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    If marriage is an actual right, all humans could marry. No restrictions of any kind.
     
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    can have loving parents without them being married...the more family that care about the children the better

    the difference is back then young people that did not love one another were more likely to marry and divorce as they thought was the right thing to do even though they did not really love each other
     
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    Zero points for ignoring actual discussion about adult responsibilities. No one is discussing children as being responsible parties, lol. Jesus, just for a second think about how to solve an issue instead of feel better about it. Making deadbeat fathers and knocked up single women aware that they made a terrible decision through societal public denouncement worked for years. Churches, politicians, etc. used to preach how making decisions that negatively affected children was not acceptable. Then, we realized that there was a huge voting pool that we could manage by paying for bad decisions with public money. The only perceivable outcome was more bad decisions.
     
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    What the what? Where do you get this nonsense? Most right don't rights work that way.LOL
     
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    I am wide open to you proving your comment.
     
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    MOST rights are not available to EVERY human. Religion. The parent may refuse to allow a child to attend religious activities. Guns. Not for kids, felons, the mentally ill.....etc. Do I need to keep going on? LOL
     
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    I admire how you stumble your way to no answer. Sure stumble forward. It is fun to watch.

    Where did you get your cockeyed notions of rights?
     
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    I accept your concession. You have no response. I knew that .....and now everyone does. LOL
     
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    when I count them that still equals two, so how did you get out of my post that one good loving mother + one good loving father is not also good (1+1=2)

    the most important point is that a child should be surrounded by good people that love and care about the child - not people that put their religion above the child's health and well-being and want to punish the child or their family cause they do not believe like them - people that want to call children "bastards" are not good people imo, that does not benefit the child
     
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    Trump is a perfect example of the unmoral cultural shift you refer to isn't he? do you support Trump?
     
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    Sounds like youve been through current sex education in American schools.

    "Oral sex, masturbation and orgasms need to be taught in education. The only way to combat heterosexism and gender conformity is comprehensive sex education. Gender identity expression and sexual orientation are a spectrum and those opposed to homosexuality are stuck in a binary box that religion and family create" NEA spokeswoman Diane Schneider
     
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    You have been watching too many episodes of modern family. I probably do too but that's just to lust after the Columbian hottie.lol
     
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    yes, I got my education from an American school, where did you get your education? foreign schools?
     
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    the same rules that apply to you or I should apply to everyone and not be decriminalized on based on race or gender
     
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    The most you have ever posted by way of evidence is this and this is anecdotal evidence.

    anecdotal evidence
    noun

    Definition of anecdotal evidence


    : evidence in the form of stories that people tell about what has happened to them His conclusions are not supported by data; they are based only on anecdotal evidence.

    Why does your anecdotal evidence trump gathered statistics?

    Also I’m still waiting for you to quote me talking about women’s periods and quote me talking about forcing people to do anything. Also admit you for did mention paper abortions and argued against them
     
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    Yea but that illustrates what people are talking about about societal changes, that a candidate could get the presidential nod with such a checker past shows that the culture was already changed before Trump got on the national scene.
     
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    I am old. However I can not pinpoint when issues such as Sex became so potent for potential presidents.

    Gary Hart then a favorite Democrat of mine went down the tubes quite fast. But his problem was not republicans it was the press and photographers catching him on a boat.

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    I’m 28 and the op directly relates to me I had a child out of wedlock. When talking about it with my parents they say my biggest mistake was living with my partner before marriage and having a child before marriage. When they tell me that stuff I don’t get offended or take it as personal shots at me just the truth. Statistics say I should have got married before moving I married before having children. People for the most part aren’t saying it to feel superior but to help and tell the truth.
     
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    American schools, back when sex education was about the biology of sex. Yours sounds more of the recent variety
     
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    My biggest thing that I notice is that people take facts as offensive as a slight at their ego. No one anymore can or will admit to their mistakes for some reason. No one wants to say I messed up I take responsibility and I will do what I can to correct it. Lots of people want to live in a world where everything is good and we ignore the bad things. The world doesn’t work like that and really I think that thought process directly correlates with rise of mental illness. This is all just my opinion
     
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    yes, I went to school decades ago too

    but Science has come a long way sense then



    but the truth is, I could care less who you marry, what religion you are, what political party you belong too, ect... as long as one is not using it to discriminate against others
     
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    Trump has changed the world forever, no loner will people admit to wrong doing, deny deny deny seems to be the new norm - and why not, in this world if you deny it today and they find out tomorrow you lied, no one seems to care
     
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