Almost Unbelievable This Still Goes On

I am assuming that because you quoted the following in very large bolded font, this is what you are you are basing your comments.

“Positive results do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.”

Let me try to make this as simple as possible for you to understand without prompting you into posting more misinformation peppered with personal attacks.

When a person is infected with SARS-CoV-2 virus, it is also possible to have other infections in the body as well. A person gets tested for the SARS-CoV-2 virus -- the agent that will or won't be detected is SARS-CoV-2. If the test is positive, it means that the agent -SARS-CoV-2 is present in the body. This is all that it means -- you have the virus in your body.

This positive result doesn't mean you are not infected with other viruses at the same time -- just as an example -- secondary bronchitis bacteria, or Escherichia coli causing a urinary tract infection. The PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 do not detect these pathogens because they aren't primed to detect their particular genetic material. The symptoms that a person is presenting with, while testing positive for covid, are not necessarily symptoms being caused by the covid virus. The person's symptoms could be caused by the other pathogens. This is why the package inserts suggests making a diagnosis based on symptom presentation rather than just assuming the presences of SARS-CoV-2 is causing the symptoms. Try to understand that a positive covid-19 can only diagnose/detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2 not if you are actively ill from having the virus. It is up to a human being to decide whether presented symptoms are the result of being infected with the covid virus or if something else is going on.

If you were actually knowledgeable regarding diagnosis and treatment of health, one does not diagnose and treat on the test results alone. From my example -- the patient had a high fever, abdominal pains, painful cough, frequent urination, thick green sputum. This would alert a doctor that more is going on than covid19 and he/she would at this point want to order a urine sample and sputum sample. That is what the big bolded comment is alluding to. It does not mean that the PCR covid tests detect just any bacteria and viruses. It means just because you have a positive test that you don't have other infections present in your body as well.

Now try to fathom this basic premise without losing it. You are missing one point as many are relating to the PCR tests. PCR is a general laboratory technique that stands for polymerase chain reaction. This type of analysis is used for both research and clinical lab testing. In general, PCR tests can detect all types of bacteria, parasites, viruses and fungi, starting with DNA or RNA. This is a general statement. Again, the technique of PCR can detects all sorts BUT with each different organism you need specific primers or probes in order to test for the specific genetic material of each different organisms. For example, there is a specific PCR test for C. pneumoniae. It detects the genetic material of C. pneumoniae because it is specifically primed to. You wouldn't use the PCR for C. pneumoniae to detect SARS-Cov-2 just as you wouldn't use the SARS-CoV-2 test to detect C. pneumoniae. The SARS-CoV-2 PCR test had to be developed from scratch and tweaked until it only showed the presence of the Covid virus.

So while you are correct in stating that PCR tests detect all sorts or pathogens/organisms. You are falsely extrapolating that the Covid PCR test does too. Again, in general the technique of PCR testing is a way of detecting for different types of organisms. A PCR test designed to test for Covid will not detect other organism because it has been specifically designed to detect only the genetic material. This is why there are many different types of PCR tests individually produced to test for a specific organism.

 

The message was loud and clear. It rang to the tone of BULLSHIT!

 

Did you copy and paste all of this and added your opening sentence?

 

I think you confused the option of vaccines and the attempted forced vaccination of people.

Those in charge were complete hypocrits being they are now crying my body over abortion rights but then demand that people get injected with an experimental vaccine that has killed a few people and injured a few others due to rushing a vaccine out that has not been thoroughly tested. I am sure the Vaccine has saved more lives than it has killed, but coming from someone who has had 2 family members die within 2 weeks of getting the vaccine (not from covid), I have no doubts some people's internal system is not compatible with this experimental vaccine. Thus, nobody should be forced vaccination just like nobody should be forced to be unable to have an abortion.

Even in Europe, one was able to travel freely without the Vaccine as long as they had a Anti-Body test above certain levels. In the USA, you cannot enter some restaurants without a vaccine. That is complete hypocrisy and discrimination. That is a totalitarian regime attempt at our freedoms.

 

Even if it was copy & pasted, so what?
Is there something there you can rebut?

 

Forum rules. Copy and paste up to three paragraphs. There are more than 3.

 

Mostly agreed, except abortion is murdering one's own child for sake of convenience. It is NOT at ALL about "women's rights" and is not at all comparable to forcing women to get jabs because jabs affect the woman's body meanwhile abortion (child murder for sake of convenience) also affects the body of another (the child's body). If the woman didn't want to get pregnant, then the woman shouldn't've been having sex (or should've at least been taking the chance with using mostly effective birth control measures).

 

This is getting far afield of the OP but a question I ask every “pro life” person (and have not received a sutible answer) what makes a fetus a human being that is afforded rights?

 

I will answer your question with a couple questions of my own that I ask every "pro choice" person.

[1] What species is "the fetus" if it is not of the human species?
[2] How does "the fetus" even arrive at the fetal stage of human life (zygote -> embryo -> fetus -> infant, etc...) if "the fetus" is not alive?

Ergo, a human[1] life[2] is present inside the womb, and killing a living human for the sake of another living human's convenience is morally abhorrent at ANY stage of human life.

 

There is a difference between “human species” and human being. A skin cell i slough off contains DNA of the human species, that doesn’t make it a human being deserving of rights.

Also answering a question with a question usually means you can’t answer the question that was asked.

 

No, it is a method of getting people to think through their position.

It sounds like you have correctly admitted that "the fetus" is of the human species. Great!! However, you have not answered my second question.

 

No let me make this plain and simple for you that even most 6th graders
will understand.

The majority of the psychobabble nonsense and spoon fed propaganda you added to the copy and pasted word salad above doesn’t negate the FACT that the ridiculous PCR tests are not detecting any such thing as the whole cloth government made up viron does not exist. That’s why the 1.6 million euros are still up for grabs.

Again, they state that empirically with their legal escape clause (I quoted below in bold) in case they were not able to fully contain their fraud and were unsuccessful in their global censorship of the honest and ethical physicians who called out this farcical pandemic $cam and their computer generated viron only almost from day one.

Their $cam PCR test was purposely designed years ago to trigger positive results from this orchestrated government circus from anyone who was dumb enough to submit themselves to their FRAUDULENT tests because of the existence of their already diseased bodies and unhealthy lifestyles the majority of these food blisters live.

“Positive results are indicative of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA”

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   serving as a sign or indication of something.
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Leftists told us that Brandon has never issued a vaccine mandate or passport. True but the administration told companies if you want to do business with the government or bid on contract, your employees gotta be vaxxed. It’s a back door for forced vaccination. Hitler would be proud.

 

Actually by way of OSHA and other ways (the back doors you mentioned) he DID impose a mandate. Fortunately a few courts struck them down.

 

We cannot allow Democrats, WHO, and CDC to ever knowingly spread lies and disinformation.


The Fifth Circuit Strikes a Critical Blow Against Big Tech Censorship | Opinion
https://www.newsweek.com/fifth-circ...w-against-big-tech-censorship-opinion-1746429

 

Misinformation is fine if you are a Democrat. This is why section 230 must be repealed so opposing voices can call out their manure.

 

~ The grossly exaggerated Covid infection fatality rates, and the mainstream media fear-mongering stories of unvaccinated people dying from Covid were big pharma propaganda lies with no basis in truth.
Unvaccinated Covid fatality rates for people 59 and under are closer to 0.0003%, and 0.07% for 59–69 year olds, respectively.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.11.22280963v1

 

It was a different variant back then

 

Just another factor that those without education/training fail to take into account.

 

I bet you say the same thing about nuclear power plant safety protocols. Those damn scientists think they know it all.

 

Nuke hazard is a proven fact. You expose to high levels of gamma ray, you will will die instead of turning into the incredible Hulk. Rona is harmless to non at risk people. This is also proven facts. The vaccine cannot prevent catch and spread is also proven. People who want to hunker down, by all means. I have a problem when leftists think they know best despite their anti science attitude.

 

Depends what measures they take. I'm certainly not going to comply, no chance in hell.

Lock me up.

 

No one is going to lock you up, but that doesn't mean that thinking that not wearing a mask makes you some sort of freedom fighter isn't silly.

I wish there was a more derisive word than silly to describe it, but i can't think of one.

 

Think what you like.