American Apartheid where Segregation is Favored......

Ethnic supremacy has always been a force in human affairs and nationalism based around a single ethnic group reinforces that. The contradiction is that single ethnicity ethnic nations limit themselves and apparently lose ground to nations that can generate multi-ethnic populations that can get along with each other. Just look at the history of the USA (black slaves aside). For a good chunk of the 19th century, for instance, many Americans despised the Irish as dirt-poor drunken ignorant Catholics (look up the aptly named Know Nothing Party), but I defy you to find many Americans who feel that way today.

 

What do you mean "micro"? The average color of an African-American in the USA is a heck of a lot lighter than his African ancestors were. They didn't mysteriously get bleached when they came over here, as any modern DNA test can prove.

Tribalism definitely is a strong force, but it is ultimately self-defeating and limiting; empires and larger mixed populatio nations have crushed tribes many more times than the opposite have occurred. Is your highest aspiration the same motivation that propels neighborhood street gangs?

 

Does anyone believe that blacks living in segregated venues like Roxbury, MA, Watts, CA and Harlem, N.Y would prefer to have their neighborhoods integrated with Hispanics, with Asians or with Whites? How would the Chinese feel about integrating/multiculturalizing their city Chinatowns just to learn how it feels to live alongside those like the blacks, the Whites or the Hispanics and adopting to their particular customs and traditions?
There is a unifying reason why Italians prefer to live in the North End of Boston among themselves in what is rightly called "Little Italy". The Irish live in South Boston....better know as 'Southie' to where they've been content living for generations, that is up and to when forced busing became the law and blacks were bused into all White/Irish schools--to when all hell broke loose with racial tensions and racial crime.
So again, segregation= no crime and no racism, while integration= increased crime and racial unrest. This obvious concept shouldn't be all that difficult to follow and or to comprehend.

 

This is complete BS, in that almost all the Negro people that were enslaved in North America came from West Africa not too far from the coast (a fairly dark-complexioned people). Furthermore, modern DNA tests show that my assertion is in fact correct. Finally, the terminology of the slaver (creole, high yellow, octoroon, mulatto, etcetera) specifically refers to what percentage of white blood the slave in question "enjoyed". SV is seriously deluding himself on this topic.

Exactly How "Black" Are Black Americans?

* According to Ancestry.com, the average African American is 65 percent sub-Saharan African, 29 percent European and 2 percent Native American.

* According to 23andme.com, the average African American is 75 percent sub-Saharan African, 22 percent European and only 0.6 percent Native American.

* According to Family Tree DNA.com, the average African American is 72.95 percent sub-Saharan African, 22.83 percent European and 1.7 percent Native American.

* According to National Geographic's Genographic Project, the average African American is 80 percent sub-Saharan African, 19 percent European and 1 percent Native American.

 

What I think is that people should have as much free choice as possible. I wouldn't force people to move into a neighbohood, but I also don't think the government should prevent people from living in a neighborhood. Same thing with schools -- I don't want the government telling kids which school they must attend, I'd rather give everyone a voucher and let the parents talk to the kid's prospective teachers and find a school with good teachers and that fit the kid. Forcing anything usually causes resentments, but I don't see any point to enforcing segregation either. I'm personally comfortable with all kinds of people, and I don't think it would make a big difference in where I lived or worked, I don't think the presence of black students destroys the school either.

 

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A lot of the desegregation/Civil Rights policies of this country like the Voting Rights Act and forced busing were things that were imposed upon the South and not other parts of the nation, and still are that way, so we have things like defacto separate but equal schools in the northeast where the black schools are miserable but nothing gets done because Washington hasn't forced Blue States to tow the line as well.

 

This is what I said: "There isn't now nor has there EVER been one type of African"
That is a FACT. So if you're ONLY discussing African-American whom mostly come from West Africa you are still incorrect. Nigerians and Congolese are all West Africans and there complexions vary vastly without admixture going back centuries. You mistakenly believe that the outward phenotype (fairer complexion,straight hair,thin lips,etc) denotes the degree of outside genes. I'm saying that a "high yellow" individual can have more African genes than a "blue black" individual, conversely the blue black can have more European genes than the high yellow one. Also some slave ports in Africa were located above and below the equatorial zone. Slaves from these two regions were historically on average lighter complexioned than their Equatorial neighbors. North of the equator (Mauritania-Senegal) Equatorial (Ghana-Nigeria-Gabon-DR Congo) and South of the equator (Angola-Namibia) Again I was speaking mainly of Africans as a whole, not just the bulk of those brought to the Americas. Most slaves couldn't speak the same language because they came from different regions and I'm aware that tribes that occupied the same countries sometimes could and couldn't.

 

The examples I give are America and Canada. So are you just separating people by color or does ethnicity,culture or language play a part as well??? Hell let's give you your way, when do we all ship out back to our respective continents and countries??? Europe for Europeans - Africa for Africans - Asia for Asians right??? Keep going--- Germany for Germans - England for English - France for French ETC. You honestly think that would end all strife within a given society??? History disagrees with you and I pity you.
The British empire and European countries of all ilk flooded non-European nations with European populations. Some like you count Australia, Canada, New Zealand,South Africa and the USA as White countries,that is an historic error. That makes you a HYPOCRITE!!! You have benefited from the very action you now seek to place a moratorium on, INTEGRATION. Now that you have consolidated power and wealth you want the world to have amnesia as to what it took for you to claim you seat at the top position.

 

Conversations about race are conversations about power and the asymmetrical ability of a majority to define a minority. Such conversations are therefore improved by a full reckoning with all the ways that power damages human beings in a society. Those who are the objects of the following types of abuse - economic, social, status-based - are more likely to engage in abuse of whomever they can scapegoat, such as a convenient minority.

 

What about the Power of Education?

 

Your "solution" is already proven ineffective since the majority of Blacks and Chicanos are currently living in segregated communities. They are traveling to each others respective communities to commit crimes. So would you make it illegal for Blacks passing thru a Chicano neighborhood and vice versa??? You must apply more critical thought to your "cure".

 

Lest my critic of your posting appear myopic, let me say you raised a good point countering the claims that racism/segregation are natural.

 

Works for me, because the more you know the more you should know better, right???
Yet people with masters degrees and PHD's still commit crimes, so....

 

I agree. What about people who have been failed by the public school system. Have they not been disempowered?

 

I would have to say yes because school is typically the interstate to the workforce. So when people support policies that squeeze resources further and further away from marginalized groups, they are unwittingly exacerbating the problems in those communities. Meaning those people turn to crime to make a living because they lack the skills needed as potential employees.

 

Human beings are 'equal'.

 

Who steals resources from little school children? Let's start by naming the thieves who are in closest proximity to the little kids.

 

Excuse me??? I do believe I said squeeze NOT steal??? Politicians take money away from poor districts who need it to buy supplies like better books and pay for decent teachers. Dropout rates keep rising. Kids turn to the streets to earn a living thru crime. It's a cycle. Yes these criminals victimize their neighbors, if that's what your getting at. What of it???

 

Who are the primary beneficiaries of the American public school system?

 

Before I answer your question, you need to apologize for changing my words.....I'll wait.

 

I apologize. It was an honest mistake. Thanks for the chat. We're done now.

 

We most certainly are,GDAY!!!

 

American Children. You know that no matter what a persons race they are still Americans, don't you? Your race selective glasses seem to confuse your thought processes, try taking them off for a while.

 

And are you willing to admit that the average African-American is 24% White (European) and 1.3% Native American? (taking the average of the 4 DNA studies)?