the IDF serves in the West Bank. the Border Patrol serve in the West Bank. so you have been proven wrong.
According to your own source: So as you can see, your source refer them as policemen, and which is the Israeli border police (= Magav) is a branch of the Israeli national police.
You also been proven wrong, about Magav is not a police forces, while RiaRaeb's source shows that Magav is a branch of the Israeli national police.
Have you completely lost the plot, look at the times that source calls them soldiers! Again A very simple question if you do not know the answer here it is again, Magav soldiers have the authority of a soldier and a policeman. After completing basic training, soldiers join the various battalions to continue training and tour of duty. All border policemen receive combat training and in addition are also trained for CT (counter-terrorism), riot control and policework. Basic training takes place at the Magav training center in the South. During basic training, soldiers learn infantry content, weaponry, camouflage implementations, shooting, physical fitness, krav maga, live fire battle drills, war history, a series of education and more. http://garinmahal.com/magav
and they have all the powers of the IDF, which makes them quasi-soldiers. - - - Updated - - - they have military training, participate in military excersizes, get IDF recruits, they are quasi-IDF. therefore attacking Israel Border Patrol is not a criminal act, but a legal act of war.
Lets just stick to what the source mentions instead of your imagination. The source mentions she is an IDF soldier. A soldier that occupies your country and is part of the forces that ethnic cleanses.... is a perfectly legit target to go and kill.
Which makes them policemen, as the Israeli Defence Ministry referred them. Not quit. The boeder POLICEMEN are a policemen that get combat training along with their other training, so it could help them with the unique places they are in. BUT they are still a policemen, as your source shows. BTW- if for you it is a legal act, then they should been punished. Something that you disagreed with. YOU wrote several times that they should be punished, if it is in commentc #22 or in comment #5: Source: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=414850&p=1065146205#post1065146205 So as you can see you are accpet that they should be punished, which makes it not legal act. - - - Updated - - - Well, the ones who serve in Magav are policemen/women, according to the Israeli Defence Ministry, hence she is policewomen.
I never said that you said such thing. Please re-read my commant. I said that you said that such of act is legal, while in the other commants of yours in this thread you said that if someone does something like that, then it should be punished (which means it is a illegal act), which is in contradiction with what you said in your last commant (about the legal act). As I showed you.
According to the source (the Israeli defence Ministry) Magav is a branch of the Israeli National Police. Hence, whoever is serving in Magav is policemen/women.
According to the source (the Israeli defence Ministry) Magav is a branch of the Israeli National Police.
Maguv are quasi-soldiers. they take recruits from the IDF. they engage in military operations outside of the State of Israel. they get military training.
According to the source (the Israeli defence Ministry) Magav is a branch of the Israeli National Police. BTW- you are lying all your eggs in the basket of "they take recruit from the IDF, so it means they are soldiers", but really? In the IDF there is a combat brigade called "Kfir" (I served there). In Kfir, after you are chose to go there they can choose and to try to get recruited to the spiaciel birgade of "Oketz", which combat canine serve with the the troops. Oketz has nothing to do with Kfir, and it is working under Kfir, but stil get recruited only after getting to Kfir. Oketz troops are not troops of "Kfir"- they are seperated troops of a seperated (special) brigade. same thing with Magav.
What the source mentions about the border police.... "Security forces and Border Police who were at the scene arrested the attacker" "Early last week, an 18-year-old Palestinian terrorist stabbed a Border Policeman" Nowhere does it say she was part of the border police. It is mentioned everywhere she is a soldier.
Please re-read my last commend. I quote exactly who is part of the border police, and notice she's not mentioned in that part.
Just to get it right, do you support that if someone is attacking policemen or others, then this man/women shouldnt be given a punishment for the act?
I believe in the idea's of Nelson Mandela. He supports violence against racist oppression. This was violence against a person who is part of the institution who applies rather violent racist oppression and ethnic cleansing policies. Now, just to get it right,.. do you think people who are part of institutions who apply racist oppression and ethnic cleansing policies may not be harmed?
"Recist oppression"? What is it "Race"? "Race" does not exist, it is only a social convention- there is no sceintific proofs about "race". Alot of Anthropologists and other well known researchers that wrote pepers on that would agree with me. SO, your question cant be answered, because your question relies on something that is not existing. Scientifically.
and they often act as soldiers. they get military training. they get their recruits from the IDF. they serve outside of the State of Israel.
