An Arab woman stabbed an IDF soldier

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  1. stuntman

    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    According to RiaRaeb's source, Border Police is involving of homeland security (security within the country). If a force is involving security within the counrty, it means that it cannot be soldiers, because soldiers only been involved in security outside the country. On threats outside the country.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Border Policemen (Magav) do a professional job facing many complex issues. Almost any complex security situation involves the Magav. Among others: Homeland Security (ongoing security within the country), participation in demonstrations and high level security events, policing, preventing violations of public order, giving a response to terrorist events. Magav soldiers have the authority of a soldier and a policeman. Because of their combat training, border policemen are employed in unique areas, where there are greater risks for riots, violence and even terror. They serve mainly in the countryside, in Arab villages and towns (along with the regular police), near the borders and in Juda and Samaria."

    My source is an agency co funded by the Israeli Ministry of Defence who's purpose is to recruit into the IDF, as I have shown they clearly call them soldiers and policeman, is this not blurring the lines Yes or No?
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Forces who are incolcing about security within the country are not soldiers, but just policemen. Police are the responsible about the security within the country, while a military (soldiers) is responsible about the security outside the country (acting against threats outside the country).
    Your source is showing that + showing that borde police officers are ingolving in POLICING, and they are identified as "border policmen".

    BTW- I already asnwered your question.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Border Policemen (Magav) do a professional job facing many complex issues. Almost any complex security situation involves the Magav. Among others: Homeland Security (ongoing security within the country), participation in demonstrations and high level security events, policing, preventing violations of public order, giving a response to terrorist events. Magav soldiers have the authority of a soldier and a policeman. Because of their combat training, border policemen are employed in unique areas, where there are greater risks for riots, violence and even terror. They serve mainly in the countryside, in Arab villages and towns (along with the regular police), near the borders and in Juda and Samaria."

    My source is an agency co funded by the Israeli Ministry of Defence who's purpose is to recruit into the IDF, as I have shown they clearly call them soldiers and policeman, is this not blurring the lines Yes or No?

    Argue with the Israeli Defence Ministry then, since your clearly know better than the IDF and the Israeli government. I have given you evidence from them , now unless you have something more to offer than your inability to read and comprehend I think were done and I will just respond with the words from the Israeli Government funded Agency! :roflol:

    Every time I post it anyone in doubt, bar deceitful liars will see the truth. Magav soldiers have the authority of a soldier and a policeman
    Blurring lines and deceit the Israeli way!
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    I dont need to argue with Israeli Defence Ministry, because according to your own source, the people that serve in Magav, are "border policemen", hence they are not soldiers, but policemen.
    Also, forces who are involving about security within the country are not soldiers, but just policemen. Police are the responsible about the security within the country, while the IDF (soldiers) are responsible about the security outside the country (acting against threats outside the country).

    Not quit.
    The boeder POLICEMEN are a policemen that get combat training along with their other training, so it could help them with the unique places they are in. BUT they are still a policemen, as your source shows.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every time I post it anyone in doubt, bar deceitful liars will see the truth. Magav soldiers have the authority of a soldier and a policeman
    Blurring lines and deceit the Israeli way!
    http://garinmahal.com/magav
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    You are forcing me to repeat myself by repeating yourself.

    Not quit.
    The border POLICEMEN are a policemen that get combat training along with their other training, so it could help them with the unique places they are in. BUT they are still a policemen, as your source shows.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every time I post it anyone in doubt, bar deceitful liars will see the truth. Magav soldiers have the authority of a soldier and a policeman
    Blurring lines and deceit the Israeli way!
    http://garinmahal.com/magav
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Please re-read comment #57.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I refer you to my previous answer.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    And which my reply to your previous comment lies in comment #57.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have reached an impasse you say 1+1 =1 I say 1+1=2, I cannot do anymore than show people the correct answer and you cannot do anymore but attempt to ignore it. Still we can discuss similar areas where Israelis blur definitions.

    For instance Israelis blur the lines between Jewish and Zionist often trying to say they are one and the same.
    This leads to the incorrect use of the term antisemitic when an Israeli pleads he is a victim because he is a Jew, when in fact it is because he has stolen another's land.
    The Holocaust where Zionists like to give the impression that this horrible crime was carried out against them when in fact the Holocaust victims were in the majority against Zionism.
    Democracy where although democracy exists within parts of Israel, they cannot annex the occupied territories and allow democracy since it would destroy the Jewish majority.
    So just like Israeli "Border Guards" they constantly blur the lines to deceive.
    Let us remind ourselves of your amusing contention, the IDF on the Magav,

    Magav soldiers have the authority of a soldier and a policeman

    http://garinmahal.com/magav

    You claim this clearly shows they are just policeman, I claim no more than the "lines are blurred"!
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have been thinking further on this point, how about this,

    According to the Israeli Defense Ministry, through an agency they fund for recruitment into the IDF.

    The Magav have the authority of a soldier
    The Magav have the authority of a policeman

    Which of the above statements do you disagree with Stuntman?
     
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    "blurring the lines"....there was a murder and WE are blurring the lines ?

    let's talk about substance please, this "legit" murder and the attempt before that on the Magav girl wounding her, and the murder of the WB civilian yesterday, and the rocket fire, and whatever they will do today.
    Are all these "legit" acts a "legit" cause for a "legit" war on the Palestinians again?
     
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    This is not what we resent you for, your hypocrisy is not in declaring "legit" targets, its in supporting war but accusing the other side of starting war when you get hit, obviously your side cannot win a war with Israel but it does its best to start one and it whining its ass off when it gets hit - you as a terror supporter do the same, that's the hypocrisy.

    Want another war ? OK, but be ready to pay the price and do try to have some pride and dignity when you fight us. thx.
     
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    No, he just won a war over land robbers and took their land as compensation, sharing streets at same cities it was and us or them situation once war was declared, those were the stakes and the Arabs felt confident enough to declare it. it wouldn't be possible if the Arabs hadn't declare war on the Israelis and officially kept fighting till 1988, but I don't blame you Arabs for hating us.
    Its kind of stupid you try to separate the Jewish nation like that..., Zionists claim the Holocaust was carried against Zionists ? what's that ? another PressTV moment of reveling "truth" ? lol
     
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    I have challenged before on this forum for anyone to show where I have ever condoned terrorism or supported it. When the Zionists committed acts of terror, we hung them when we caught them. Please do not talk about pride and dignity when Zionists practically invented modern terrorism. You have never been at war with Britain, but Zionists did carry out acts of terrorism against us.
     
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    Forgive me for not diving into your excuses of what civilians make a legit target and what do not, bottom line you support the murder of kids for standing in the wrong place as you see and for political reasons.
     
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    Now you really got me confused. I personally stated these Lehi and Ezel were terror gangs (and we "invented" (*)(*)(*)(*), Arab terror existed long before those gangs and even they didn't "invent" it), but YOU can't possibly claim an IDF makes a legit target but Brit soldiers do not. that's another fail in your reasoning.
     
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    And where the (*)(*)(*)(*) do I state that the IDF are legit targets and Brit soldiers were not, the fail is in your reading comprehension. Discussion with a Zionist is like trying to pin down a jelly. Bluring the lines all the time. Two peoples want the same land, one side has insisted it must be in a majority for all time since they cannot live with others. The Jews in the Diaspora disprove that theory but you still claim it is true. The most dangerous place for a Jew is Israel, Zionism is an epic fail but they will not admit the wrong they perpetrated in the establishing of Israel and eventually it will be their downfall.
     
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    Didn't you post the Magav officer was a soldier thus a legit target ? didn't you call Lehi and Ezel terrorists for targeting Brit soldiers ? what did I get wrong ?

    The "line blurring" is recorded history, its a blur to you because of the propaganda you feed yourself, France Jews are massively immigrate to Israel, Europe is facing another ethinc cleanse wave of Jews, this time in the name of "Human rights" !,

    We will all die of Global warming before the end of my country.
     
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