I am going to tell you a true story that went down in my town a few years ago. We had a drug rehab prson who spoke out about the drug cartels rather strongly. The cartell killed her and her husband and their dog. Then they burned the house to the ground. She died TRYING to save drug addicts. I'm about 90 miles NORTH of the border.
Ha ha ha. You equate all liberalism and progressivism with forms of marxism. If you are gonna do that you should have equated conservatism with fascism, for if you move too far right that is where you end up. So no choice for me to make in that list. Along with many other people. Quite the job of trying to engineer something here, but it is just a bit deceitful, no? ha ha ha That is the trouble with ideologues though. Like a virus in my PC. ha ha
Their "crappy" parents did not put their children into that situation. You were born in America, which is a totally different "situation" then that "situation." You for sure do not seek compassion nor have you ever had any. One day your "situation" will change and you will think about compassion when it affects you. Your thinking is skewed. And don't tell me what I don't believe in. Only a fool shts on less fortunate people, and your view does not mean that you believe in personal responsibility because talk is cheap when you are on the other side of the fence.
I must disagree true Republicans follow the rule of law, and constitution of their republic, other wise no republics would be possible, only Democracys, which always fall victim to demagogues, and degenerate intoTyranny[/QUOTE] Do you always follow the rule of law, or only when it is convenient?
The "Conservative" descriptor covers me well enough. I would have preferred to have refined that to say, "FISCAL Conservative", because my main interests and complaints are those that focus on economic developments, but "Conservative" is close enough. Example: I don't care what a person does with his/her life... that's his/her business entirely as a private, independent U. S. citizen, so long as it doesn't hurt or bother other people, or, cost the taxpayers money! Thus, I'm not a 'social' Conservative at all!
Yes because their governments have deprived them of their fundamental human right of defense, and now they are the victims of gang brutality, both governmental, and street. Take Mexico for example, the government under the pretense of "public safety"(political doublespeak for government safety) In acted common sense gun control in 1960 by placing restrictions upon article 10 of the Mexican constitution, most firearm types where made illegal, gun shops where shut down and those granted the privilege by government to have a firearm can and may do so only with in ones home, thus reduceing the natural human rights of the good people of Mexico, to the level of a dictablanda. Now only criminals have arms, the government, and the cartels
I'd like to say "only when it is convenient". But most of the time it's purely by accident. A co-incidence that the law matches my behaviour. Nobody knows what all the laws even are.
Do you always follow the rule of law, or only when it is convenient?[/QUOTE] The very nature of that question, do I always fallow the rule of law, our when it is convenient, shows how far we have fallen in our basic understanding of civics, and social responsibility. If by convenient it is meant when it serves my self interest, then yes the very reason I follow the rule of law is because my self interest. For world history stands as a testament, a bloodsoked one at that, full of murder, oppression, and slavery, to this one very real fact, humanity shalt have something which rules over them, their is no utopia that exists outside the human imagination. Their for you must decide what shill you have exercise sovereignty over your life? The will and whim of a autocratic system, the party, some dogmatic and ridged ideology, the ever changeing, unstable will of the greatest numbers? For myself the law alone is sovereign, to me it is sacred. because it's not class struggle watch makes up history, like some may believe, no it is one group of people pushing their will upon another, and the effects of this, we as a spices known all to well. Yet this undeniable fact that humanity is capable of the most horrific, and terrible acts of sadism, and oppression, at the same time is contrasted to an equal extreme by all that is beautiful, good, pure, noble, and innocent in humanity, thus all that is worth defending and if need be dying in the service of. So how does one protect all that is good in us as a species, from all that is dark, and malevolent? By first understanding that the main vehicle used by humanity throw out all of our written history to infect the greatest of evils upon fellow humanity, has been that force of violence held by the state, our government. Even the most superficial study our observation of human history, and society will show this to be a undeniable reality as well as an unescapable condition of human life. Thus if one wishes to counter this evil as much as is possible, it is of the up most importance that we keep that necessary, yet dangerous beat of government on a short leash, our suffer the effects of having it run wild, to which an overwhelming majority of our history bears witness of what this shill bring about. Their for a society if they wish to avoid that darkness we know all to well we are as a species capable of do to one another, it is imported to lay out a set of rules and values which are common to us, and set these up as sovereign authority alone. Thus our ruler shill be not the will, of an individual, our a faceless mass, nor of the party, but a law common to us all, for in it is found the interest, and mutual benefit of all. This is the rule of law, this is what is called a constitution. Where ever some other authority exercises sovereign over people there you shill find the darkest attributes, and side of the spices, tyranny, despotism, persecution, despair, destruction.
If one is ignorant of the law, that is on them, but luckily like all ignorance it does not have to be a chronic condition for a individual.
And yet not even lawyers know every law. Ignorance of the law is the reality. In my country they pass up to 10 new laws a day. You are not expected to know the law. No one is. This ignorance is absolute. 100% of all people share it to some degree or another. Judge Dredd? "Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law". Good catch phrase, but it's from a dystopian nightmare.
The very nature of that question, do I always fallow the rule of law, our when it is convenient, shows how far we have fallen in our basic understanding of civics, and social responsibility. If by convenient it is meant when it serves my self interest, then yes the very reason I follow the rule of law is because my self interest. For world history stands as a testament, a bloodsoked one at that, full of murder, oppression, and slavery, to this one very real fact, humanity shalt have something which rules over them, their is no utopia that exists outside the human imagination. Their for you must decide what shill you have exercise sovereignty over your life? The will and whim of a autocratic system, the party, some dogmatic and ridged ideology, the ever changeing, unstable will of the greatest numbers? For myself the law alone is sovereign, to me it is sacred. because it's not class struggle watch makes up history, like some may believe, no it is one group of people pushing their will upon another, and the effects of this, we as a spices known all to well. Yet this undeniable fact that humanity is capable of the most horrific, and terrible acts of sadism, and oppression, at the same time is contrasted to an equal extreme by all that is beautiful, good, pure, noble, and innocent in humanity, thus all that is worth defending and if need be dying in the service of. So how does one protect all that is good in us as a species, from all that is dark, and malevolent? By first understanding that the main vehicle used by humanity throw out all of our written history to infect the greatest of evils upon fellow humanity, has been that force of violence held by the state, our government. Even the most superficial study our observation of human history, and society will show this to be a undeniable reality as well as an unescapable condition of human life. Thus if one wishes to counter this evil as much as is possible, it is of the up most importance that we keep that necessary, yet dangerous beat of government on a short leash, our suffer the effects of having it run wild, to which an overwhelming majority of our history bears witness of what this shill bring about. Their for a society if they wish to avoid that darkness we know all to well we are as a species capable of do to one another, it is imported to lay out a set of rules and values which are common to us, and set these up as sovereign authority alone. Thus our ruler shill be not the will, of an individual, our a faceless mass, nor of the party, but a law common to us all, for in it is found the interest, and mutual benefit of all. This is the rule of law, this is what is called a constitution. Where ever some other authority exercises sovereign over people there you shill find the darkest attributes, and side of the spices, tyranny, despotism, persecution, despair, destruction.[/QUOTE] As a new member, you are making some superficial errors. For example, you have me quoting you and you quoting me. Your responses are long and convoluted. You could simplify it instead of responding with a philosophical dissertation. Thanx.
I'm from the UK. The law is not absolute, nor would we ever wish it to be. Draco serves as our example of a society we do not wish to emulate. Draconian. Totalitarian. We do not want this. The purpose of the law is to provide conflict resolution in a break down of civil relations. Most of us are civil. We do not encounter such break downs. The laws, whatever they may be, are irrelevant to us. We call this a "Liberal society". We do our bests not to tell other people how to behave because we understand how much we ourselves don't like that either. We don't just follow laws. That isn't why we behave the way we do.
Maybe it might help in dealing with this discussion, along with its implications for 'ethics' to consider Abraham Maslow's writings on The Hierarchy of Needs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs Thus, 'ethical considerations' will yield -- in a heartbeat -- if personal security and vital survival needs are non-existent or severely threatened....
It is sad i know. your country has contributed, to humanity so many beautiful Institutions, and ideals, in fact most of my most cherished value/belief systems are the product of your people, I mean jhon lock was born their, queen Elizabeth put an end to endless religious bloodshed, by breaking the cycle, and instituting religions liberty, and so much more. I would say move to the U.S But it my fear were headed down the same path
Thank you for sharing, I will indeed look into this Maslow fellow, for I dont believe I am familiar with him even in name.
As a new member, you are making some superficial errors. For example, you have me quoting you and you quoting me. Your responses are long and convoluted. You could simplify it instead of responding with a philosophical dissertation. Thanx.[/QUOTE] I do not spend much time on the internet, so yes I stuck as far as quote and such go, I have in comparison realized that issue myself, so for that I apologize for my ignorance in this department, and can only try to better myself in the future. As far as my responses being long I have long lost the ability be simplistic, in thought and therefore by extension in speech, this is truly a reflection of who I am. The sad thing is those are the oversimplified versions of my world view. however I am only here, because I sincerely believe that humanity is at a fork in the road with one path leading to a new dark ages, and the other to a new renaissance. Now I'm not so arrogant as to believe just because I feel something is going to happen, that means it's an absolute truth. On the flip side however it is like wise my believ that if one know of an evil, and yet says nothen this make that person culpable also of that evil. I love humanity, and thow I can not say whether we came from God our Ape, I can tell you this we deserve a self determination future, not an one impose upon us like is the case with so much of our history has been, and of all the social structure we have I feel a Republic founded on the rule of law is the closest we will ever come to utopia
I toyed with the idea. Lived there for my 3 months per year through the nineties. Not my culture. Close, but no cigar.
Another poll showing this site is overwhelmingly on the RW side of the spectrum. But this on has it near 90%. Where typically it hovers around 75%. NONE of the above.
