Another reason I love the Tea Party.........

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    apparently the richness of the English language and the ability to apply it are considered to be subjects of ridicule in your neck of the woods.

    Your command of the language does leave something to be desired, highlighted by your misuse of the word vaunted and lack of understanding of how a metaphor differs from a definitive ad hominem.


    Gotta luv the facile dismissal of the massive ramifications of achieving the goals of the Tea Party's twin objectives.
    Guess when a meaningful response requires a tad beyond bumper sticker ideology, the only defence is deflection and nonsensical partisan ejaculation.

    I won't hold my breath waiting for conservatives to become enlightened enough so the "mistakes and waste" one can readily find in such widespread and large scale programs of all stripes can be addressed and the entire system improved. Oh right, improvement isn't in many a conservative's ideological bag of tricks, because that requires compromise and co-operation and trashing everything is just so much easier.

    thanks for the confirmation.
     
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In America you can only teach him to fish if he has the tuition.
     
  3. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wasn't "busted". Seems literary use of English is beyond your rudimentary comprehension of the language, but no matter. Your adoption of the whining baby Obama as an avatar is feigned, contrived, pretentious, and spurious.

    As the facts pile up on you, they certainly appear to be weighing you under while inhibiting your ability to grasp reality.

    Yes, that breeze does seem to go in one ear and out your other.
     
  4. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see spiraling out of control financial problems in 2014. Today's economy is one helluva lot healthier than it was 6 years ago.


    Given that the Tea Party has NOT EVEN PRODUCED A PLAN for the "movement" to achieve their stated goals, perhaps you can tell us all how long to a balanced budget, what government programs will be eliminated or reduced? what government entities will be eliminated? how much would the tax cuts be? How would poor and small population states NOT be punished for being poor or underpopulated as all those federal services devolve to the states? How will the debt be paid down? Where will all those jobs for the welfare bums come from? How will the working poor make ends meet?

    What does "reverse our course" actually mean beyond the fact it fits on yet another bumper sticker.

    Here's some other good ones for you:

    Money before people. Lower taxes before food stamps. Medicare vouchers liberate the elderly.
     
  5. Deno

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    Yet another vaunted attempt at making your screed sound like anything but what it is.

    Oh, I appreciate the richness of the English language, just not clueless liberals that

    try to muddy the waters of the truth with it. It's you and the left that own deflection and

    nonsensical ejaculation, in fact, spanking the monkey is all you do........

    The fact that you would even bring up compromise with this administration proves

    you don' have a friggin clue.
     
  6. Deno

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    Speaking of facts.

    Kitty Cat took the bait....

    Here's what you said.

    "Spoken like the whining toddler avatar you have so appropriately affected"

    Am I to take it that you agree that obama is a big lying crybaby?

    If this is the case I stand corrected.

    If not, then you must admit you're wrong..........
     
  7. Deno

    Deno Well-Known Member

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    Yet another liberal fallacy.

    There are many routes to success other than college.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Low information will beat no information any day of the week with the possible of Friday night when we're all too stewed to care about it anyway.
     
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    At least a fishing license!

    Still, it's what the parable means. Not the strict context of it. In America, employers are willing to teach basic skills of required basic jobs.
     
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    The rest of us are noticing a pattern here/.

    When challenged on your claims about the tea party, you don't respond.

    When challenged on the basis of contradictory claims you have made on this thread, you don't defend your own arguments.

    When it's pointed out that the tea party actually accomplished nothing, you run and hide.

    All we get back from you is adolescent wisecracks, vitriol and name calling.

    None of us take you seriously.
     
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    What do personal attacks have to do with the Tea Party?
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's how the constitution was ratified in the first place: they ignored the existing constitution and started again from scratch.

    The case is a bit different because I'd prefer not "secede" and start again - just to secede.

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    People need to chill their beans - the sky will not fall if government is at a slightly more representative level.
     
  13. wolfin

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    I like the Yeats quote, Curmudgeon The Tea Party was the child of an administration's forcing legislation like the Affordable Care act which few people but I had read. They energized a moribund Republican Party and helped win national and local seats which slowed the Democratic juggernaut. They are more conservative than I but the Tea Party is no more under the control of overlords than Obama voters.

    Here is another which applies to us all, especially to those who voted for our president and other politicians.

    "When the days are cold
    And the cards all fold
    And the saints we see
    Are all made of gold
    When your dreams all fail
    And the ones we hail
    Are the worst of all
    And the blood's run stale

    I want to hide the truth
    I want to shelter you
    But with the beast inside
    There's nowhere we can hide

    No matter what we breed
    We still are made of greed...
    When you feel my heat
    Look into my eyes
    It's where my demons hide...
    Don't get too close
    Its dark inside...
    And the masquerade'
    Will come calling out
    At the mess you made."
     
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    The lyrics are from Imagine Dragons "Demons"
     
  15. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am having a problem understanding how "patriots" wish to secede from America. How can one be a patriot and yet reject the nation they are supposedly so patriotic about.

    Secession does not in anyway guaranteed a "slightly more representative level" of government.
    I have heard nothing in tea party demagoguery about restructuring the way government is elected. Perhaps you can enlighten me.
     
  16. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, so the vast majority of jobs where experience is a pre-requisite mean employers are willing to teach basic skills?

    If America dropped its failed experiment in "for profit education" and instead applied those billions urinated down the toilet on providing FREE tuition for anyone who needs it, I'd certainly think that America was intent and dedicated to "teaching a man to fish", but it seems that is not the case.

    BTW, consider the tens of millions who depend in some fashion on social programs. Where will all those jobs to employ them come from?

    slogans and adages do not reality make.
     
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    If you count success as being a career shelf stocker at walmart , or a gas station attendant then you would be correct.

    Its interesting that there is this American Fallacy that everyone has the same opportunity, that everyone who wants it can be a success, that the American dream is available to all Americans.

    History, statistics and reality paint an entirely different picture, but for some reason it is ignored amongst the myths.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do wish you had better command of the language, then you wouldn't even attempt this stupid tack.

    Never mind, substance doesn't seem to be your strong point.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow.

    No the reason I talk about compromise and co-operation is that it is at the heart of good democratic governance.

    Seems not having a friggin clue is something you know a lot about.


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    And I'll just tell you that 90% of the authoritarians holding office in this country have a D after their names.
     
  21. Alwayssa

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    She is cute, but she is an idiot.

    When Texas was independent, our borders were not secure, we were broke, and most people did not know what the future held. That was why, barely, that we joined the Unioitn so that we can bring in cheap labor, aka slaves.
     
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    That is complete and utter BS.

    Texas allowed itself to be annexed because they were having problems with the roving bands of Indians and they wanted US troops to get rid of them.

    It didn't work out that way but that was the reason, and the only reason, that Texas joined the union. It had absolutely nothing to do with slavery.
     
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    Texas had three issues when it was an independent country. First was the border dispute with Mexico. Mexico claimed the Nueces River while Texas claimed the Rio Grand. Second was the slavery issue. Under the Texas Constitution of 1836, no person was allowed to won slaves. The reason for this is because the Texas Constitution of 1836 was modeled after the Mexican Constitution of 1824. The third issue was the Native Americans, specifically the Comanche's and the Apaches. Because the Texas treasury was booke and we were heavily in debt, the only force was the Texas Rangers, a police force, not a military force. They were only able to prevent raids and prevent people from antagonizing the native Americans into raiding outer settlements.

    Yes, Texas allowed to be annexed. But the isuses listed above help seal the deal. The vote was like 51% to 49%. It was deeply divided. Some wanted Texas to remain independent and some wanted us to join so that the Constitution can be changed. It was basically a political battle between Sam Houston and Lamar/Burnet political forces.

    Joining the union was a deeply divided issue in Texas. Some believed Texas was better off not to join the union. For starters, they believed Washington world never support the Texan belief that the Rio Grande was the border, bot the Nueces River. Some also believed that Texas was a much better place than the Union and could avoid the coming civil war that was brwering already between Northern States and Southern States.
     
  24. Deno

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    The tenets of the Tea Party are based in sound common sense.

    The fact is most of you on the left just don't have the common sense to get it.

    Show me an example of where I haven't responded, made contradictory claims

    or ran and hid, you are full of it. I am guilty of vitriolic name calling every now

    and then, but you deserve it. Like I really give a sheit what you think,

    it's the internet.
     
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    People keeping themselves ignorant of the facts make it easier for them to retain their bigotry.
     

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