Antonin Scalia Says Constitution Permits Court To 'Favor Religion Over Non-Religion'

Horse puckey.

From my experience Christians believe that all people are sinners as they are not perfect (I think the Bible specifically says that). You can no more discern what someone believes than Miss Cleo can. Oh, they can say what they want, but you, nor anyone else knows for sure.

You're an admitted atheist, how would you know anyway?

And Atheists, or other religions are any different how?

You seem very focused on trashing religious people, Christians in particular when your own type are as bad as anyone else.

 

Um, noooo...those were proposed and then ratified, as per the due process. They were not simply added, illegally to the Constitution.

 

Yes, I find Atheists to be pompous as well with their constant boring mantras about their hatred of religion.

 

I beg to differ.

First of all, the federal government before the civil war was ignoring the constitution and then ignored the Supreme Court who declared they had no authority to regulate slavery.

Second, when those amendments were voted upon they completely disregarding the southern states, their representatives and their people. Second of all they were ratified at the point of a gun. The Reconstruction Acts required that the Southern states ratify those amendments or have a standing military occupation and their people would have no representation in government.

This is patently unconstitutional Article 5 "...and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate."

So even IF there were enough signatories to ratify the 14th amendment (which there weren't) the signatures are no more valid than the signature of someone forced to sign over their house or property with a gun against their head.

But REGARDLESS, there are only 27 out of 29 signatures needed for ratification as two of the states rescinded their signatures before it was ratified and the federal government ignored it and ratified anyway.

Therefore they are not constitutionally valid. And if you claim they are then you're asserting that the federal government can unilaterally change the constitution and violently suppress the people who disagree.

 

Then why does god in the Bible consistently entrust single men with rulership of whole nations?

 

Except that those studies are taken and peer reviewed by non-biased scientist outside of that little clique and more often than not the studies lose all validity.

Part of the honest peer review process is meticulous documentation of findings and variables.

None of which creationism does or has.

 

Doesn't that create an unending contradiction seeing as man wrote the bible.

 

That's like asking me to read the Op/Ed section of (pick any newspaper here) and giving it weight of law. The Federalist Papers were nothing but Op/Ed's.

 

So then you don't have a problem with a government office, like, a post office having a Christmas tree set up?

What about a school that leads a non-denominational prayer in the morning, atheists are free to not participate?[/QUOTE]

I could care less about the christmas tree as the season is so commercialized that the religious connotations are no longer recognizable.

As for prayer in schools, I do have a problem with that. You are in essence forcing the kids to hold a prayer, while some will feel ostracized and singled out for not praying. It creates an even more hostile social setting for those children.

As well the fact that again, teachers are government employees. They should not be practicing religion with their charges. In any form.

 

But indicative of the mindset, thoughts and considerations of those who founded our country.

 

Churches do pay taxes but not on church buildings. As we've all learned to our sorrow, taxes are not used just to fund government but also to force behavior to what the government demands.

 

faith based initiatives, the pledge, ect....

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agree...

a school that "leads a non-denominational prayer in the morning" is violating the constitution

a post office that puts up a Christmas tree is celebrating the secular federal holiday known as Christmas

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As an atheist how would I know what Christians are like ? Well, I don't live in Atheist Land, I live in America and it's crawling with Christians, that's how I know what many of them are like.

 

I'm an atheist and I don't hate anyone or anything....why is hate ALWAYS on the tip of the tongue of believers......why do they wallow in it.....can't they ever just dislike something?

 

faith based initiatives... Like what?

Saying under God ( not what God) omg the horror... If you dont believe in a God what is the big deal?

 

the guy seems out of the loop - 3 days ago

"Justice Antonin Scalia says US Supreme Court will hear gay marriage case 'soon'"

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/...-court-will-hear-gay-marriage-case-soon031014


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faith based initiatives like giving churches tax payer money, Bush Gave Obama's old church over a million dollars via this program.. you do know what faith based initiatives is right?


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Safeguards on faith-based organizations

Faith-based organizations are eligible to participate in federally administered social service programs to the same degree as any other group, although certain restrictions on FBOs that accept government funding have been created by the White House to protect separation of church and state.

They may not use direct government funds to support inherently religious activities such as prayer, worship, religious instruction, or proselytization.
Any inherently religious activities that the organizations may offer must be offered separately in time or location from services that receive federal assistance.
FBOs cannot discriminate on the basis of religion when providing services (GAO 2006:13[3]).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Office_of_Faith-Based_and_Neighborhood_Partnerships

What is your issue?

 

"Bush's Faith-Based Initiative Gave Obama's Former Church $1.5 Million"

http://cnsnews.com/node/34655

"Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Ill. – where Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama worshipped for two decades – has received more than $1.5 million in federal tax money since 2003 through the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives"

 

And your issue with this is?

 

When a Supreme court justice places religion over constitutional mandate......we have serious problems going forward.

Does he also get to decide "Which Ones" deserve his attention?

 

giving millions of tax payer dollars to churches, yep, I have issue with tax payers bailing out religious groups

 

That is not what is going on.. Please dont debate from ignorance... I gave you the simple rules behind the money...

 

Since when does a mandate from Tecoyah carry weight? What Justice Scalia said was the Constitution puts protection of religion above some imaginary protection of non-religion. And, it does.