Any DeSantis Supporters Out There Happy to See Trump Getting Destroyed?

I explained my reasoning, and your attempt to provide an alternative explanation wasn't even an explanation - just a statement of fact. Yes, he didn't have to. But why didn't he immediately ask the rioters to leave, given the potential danger to members of congress and the tremendous damage he was doing to his own reputation? I'm not holding my breath for a direct answer to the question....

 

It becomes logical if they really believe Trump is a greater threat to democracy, the environment, or whatever else than a standard GOP candidate. And considering the political environment right now (though a lot could change before the next presidential election), democrats may lack faith they can beat any GOP pres candidate anyway so might as well eliminate the most horrific possibility.

 

As bad as the economy is and crime, any shaved ape would beat any democrat at this point. Ask Jimmy Carter

 

Do you realize that if you live outside of DC and other big blue cities no one believes this is about justice. If Dems gave a crap about justice all of the summer of 2020s fire bombers would be in jail.

 

What about Maga? They don’t appear ready to move on.

 

Similar policies? Like failing to concede an election loss? If De Santis is going to act like that and call on the proud boys to stand back and stand by, and the entire GOP and it’s base cheer it all on, then not only is De Santis unfit but the party can’t be trusted with power.

 

Perhaps the GOP can hide their candidate in a bunker during the entire campaign and let the press get him elected. Or does that only work for democrats?

 

Because he wasn't in charge of them, didn't even know who they were and had no expectation that they would obey and if by some miracle they did, you'd consider it prima facie evidence that he'd organized it whether he did or not.

 

You can certainly tell when someone will confirmation bias has been watching left-wing media

 

It isn't just Democrats nor is it just Trump. This is a shot a ross the bows of any real outsider who might ever consider running again. These people will stop at nothing to destroy anyone who stands in the way of their unbridled lust for total power. They won't settle for ending Trump they have to absolutely destroy him his family and everything he ever did.

From now on out you can expect the same treatment for everyone who won't to the progressive/neocon line.

In other words they will do the same damn thing to Desantis or anyone else who stands in their way. 2022 is the last chance to stop this nascent tyranny in it's tracks but one must be damn careful for there are many a wolf in sheep's clothing these days.

 

It feels like you're determined to reach a certain conclusion, no matter what the evidence to the contrary. I respect that you actually addressed the question, but If you're right, then why did he ask them to leave hours later? All you wrote would still be true. And more specifically:

"He wasn't in charge of them" - he asked them to go to the capitol and they did; when he asked them to leave, they did. So apparently he had a lot of influence over them.

"He didn't even know who there were". He said to the rioters "We love you, you're very special". That makes it obvious who he thought they were - his supporters.

"He had no expectation they would obey them" - they went to the capitol when he asked them to. They were chanting "Fight for Trump". You can't seriously suggest he wouldn't think there was a chance they'd obey him. And in his video message he seems to expect them to follow his direction - he's not pleading with them, he's resigned.

If the mob obeyed Trump I'd "consider it prima facie evidence that he'd organized it whether he did or not". He asked people to come to the ellipse on Jan 6th, and he asked them to go to the capitol. So it's obvious he helped organise the crowd. The question is whether he wanted them to invade the capitol, The fact it took him hours to ask them to leave when he was the single person they were most likely to obey suggests at the very least that he wasn't unhappy with them being there.

 

It's way simpler than that. They believe he is evil and corrupt. Wrongly or rightly, that's why they are afraid of him and going after him. Total power? lol. Democrats can barely do anything with how obstructive republicans are in congress.

 

Uh the riot started before he even said that the people he told that to

I wish the Reps we're more obstructive. That's why I voted for them to stop the totalitarian progressive agenda.

 

I honestly don't know what this means.

 

Well to be fair any answer to that question would be total speculation.

 

Try giving me any plausible alternative to what I suggested.

 

Sure. He didn’t anticipate it would get as bad as it did given the intelligence reports citing no indications of violent behavior.

Maybe he felt they were righteous in their anger and wouldn’t listen to him even if he told them to leave.

Maybe he was pissed off that he got cheated and didn’t feel morally obligated, and certainly not legally obligated, to make any kind of statement.

Maybe he thought the police presence at the Capitol was enough to handle it.

Maybe he was waiting on the national guard that he had preapproved the night before.

 

We’re talking about the hours after it was already violent.

I already addressed this. Why not even try, if he wanted them to leave?

Aren’t you basically agreeing with me?

You can’t be serious.

 

It means the riot started before he asked people to come peacefully protest with him could have ever gotten to the place the riot was occurring.

 

The question is why he didn’t ask them to leave the capitol once the riot was underway. I explained why what you wrote about this seems to me untenable. You don’t have any response?

 

The protestors breached the Capitol at 2:12pm. Within 26 minutes was Trumps first public response to the breaching of the Capitol telling everyone to support the police at the Capitol and be peaceful.

As for your other points he didn’t want them to leave. But that doesn’t mean he wanted them to be violent as his comments clearly showed.

And of course I’m serious. Why wouldn’t he be expecting the national guard to show up when he had previously approved it?

 

You don’t find it at all reprehensible that Trump didn’t at that point ask those who had illegally entered the capitol to leave?

 

Which btw is a HELL of a lot faster of a response time than the House Sergeant at arms gave Sund when he requested assistance on Jan 6.

 

He didnt want them to leave. He wanted his protestors to remain peaceful. He even specifically says a few minutes later “No Violence”

 

You didn’t answer the question.