AOC is socialist. Is that bad?

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    In a pig's eye. You may be happy with the notion of everyone starving to death around a campfire while singing kum bayah but I find the very idea to be insane.
     
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    Then dont do that
     
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    Some ideologues like to appoint themselves as spokespersons for their "leftists", but the reality is that all advanced, democratic nations are pragmatic amalgams, achieving their primacy via enlightened capitalism and progressive social policies.
     
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    As long as we republican have guns we won't.
     
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    Good for you.

    But she is great
     
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    James M, please define socialism. You may not use Edward T. Baiamonte as a source, please.
     
  7. Medieval Man

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    Yawn. I noticed you didn't address U.S. defense spending that allows many countries to forego their own military spending to fund social programs, taking advantage of the U.S. defense umbrella.

    Not important for those ideologues who like to appoint themselves as spokespersons for conservatives and libertarians?
     
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    Haha this is why I so enjoy debating liberals/progressives/socialists; whatever they don't agree with is a 'theory.'

    Here, educate yourself a bit, you'll be a better person for it:

    http://militarybudget.org/sweden/

    https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...percentage-of-gdp-infographic-2/#7b18b38b4c47

    If European and Nordic countries were forced to fund their own defense, they would not be able to fund so many social programs. In fact, they would do less than the U.S. does.

    Or, they would have to accommodate a sort of peace with Russia and China.
     
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    I like the way simply the word 'socialism' triggers a yelping "VENEZUELA!!!1!!1!1!!" from the trained seals.
     
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    Thanks for the free healthcare we enjoy.

    Signed,

    Israel.
     
  11. Medieval Man

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    When has true socialism not turned into communism?

    Venezuela is only a recent example, but many more millions were killed by their socialist/communist governments in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, Cuba etc...
     
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    Let's say we allow Russia to invade all of Europe. Is that good or bad for the US?

    Your scenario is pointless
     
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    Uh....never
     
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    How can we expect to run a nation using the example of a country that has a collective population smaller than NYC as an example of what to do?

    More, Scandinavia works because of their incredible non diversity. So, again, Venezuela??
     
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    Scandanavia is not a country.


    How silly. Lol
     
  16. Medieval Man

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    Why is it pointless?

    U.S. taxpayers fund government health care in Europe. You don't see this? Really?

    I believe if the U.S. gave these countries a 10 year period to arm themselves against Russian and Chinese aggression, they would do so. And we could leave them to their selves, saving taxpayers a tremendous amount of money.
     
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    They would still have single payer healthcare.

    And we will never not protect them
     
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    Nope.

    Feel free to offer proof to your 'theory.'

    If they had to fund their military to the level the U.S. provides them, they would not be able to fund healthcare or many other free **** they provide their citizens.

    Did you refer to the military links I provided? You're really being ignorant here...
     
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    Never? The Soviet Union? Cambodia? Cuba? China?

    Or, I get it; they just didn't do it 'right' like you guys would... :roflol:
     
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    They will never vastly increase military spending. They will just become allies of china or Russia
     
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    None of those are communist
     
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    OK.

    And U.S. taxpayers would be off the hook.

    Isn't this a good thing?
     
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    It would be the worst thing possible
     

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