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Are women who use their sexuality for personal gain any better than street whores?

Discussion in 'Other Off-Topic Chat' started by jack4freedom, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member

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    Any thoughts???
     
  2. Viv

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    Are men who buy a woman's sexuality for their own use any better than street pimps or addicts?
     
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    So are you claiming that gold digging isn't a bad behavior from a female?
     
  4. Viv

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    Are you claiming that paying a woman for sexual favours is somehow less bad behaviour?
     
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  5. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member

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    Well, a pimp is someone who takes most of the money when a woman sells her body...The buyer is generally known as a "John" or a "Mark"....

    I believe that a man who pays to have sex with a woman isn't necessesarily bad or good....That's just a business transaction between two consenting adults. As long as both sides of the implied contract are fulfilled it's fine..

    A pimp is one who expoits women through coercion, often times under threat of violence. This I believe, is an evil practice and is illegal in almost every concievable set of laws worldwide. Here in the US it is considered extortion which is a very serious crime, as it well should be...

    What I was referring to are women who use their sexuality as a tool or a weapon to gain advantage in relationships in order to control their men, or for material gain in general.
     
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    You obviously know more about pimping than Viv. Why do you use such judgemental pejorative terms as whore to describe only one of the participants in a business transaction?
     
  7. Viv

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    Don't make me laugh. Until fairly recently, women had no right to control anything. Legal "equality" was only recently acquired and only in the west and prior to that, women had no option but to take what some sexist male decided to give unless... they used strategy.

    Now you want to complain when skills honed over centuries of oppression are used not against you, but for a few women to secure an happy life?

    Plenty of males patronise the sex industry and plenty do that while they should be bound by the exclusivity contract they signed with one woman. It is still ok for some men to do exactly what they want, they think.

    Anyway, can you evidence what you're on about? There is a big discrepancy between what men view as being controlling and what is actually women having to ask men to feckin grow up.
     
  8. jack4freedom

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    I used the terms John or Mark to describe the other party in such a transaction. Those terms are also somewhat perjorative in that they infer that he is a sucker.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member

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    Now we're getting somewhere...Thanks


    But don't you think that using these so called "skills" to manipulate the person they allegedly love and respect is a bit sneaky and underhanded? Generally, women who operate in this practice in their personal relationships are very disdainful towards those women who are more straight forward about their intentions, and call them whores.

    I was simply asking if one (the manipulator) was really superior to the other, (the prostitute) and which one is it? Maybe it's also time for women to quit whining about what happened centuries ago, step into the present and grow up too....What do you think?
     
  10. Viv

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    I think you can go and condescend to someone who can't see straight through ill-concealed sexism.
     
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    That's a typical and not very imaginative cop out. If that's the best you got, you lose. Sorry
     
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    You juxtaposed women who use their sexuality with "whores", a pejorative term. Your attitude to women is sadly lacking. Does mommy restrict your basement computer time?
     
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    At least with a prostitute, everyone is up front about what is expected. No pretense.
     
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    So its sexism to call a con artist a con artist when that con artist happens to be female?

    Women who ruthlessly seek wealth at the expense of a male are con artists. Plain and simple.
     
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    That was not a very original insult sport....
     
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    Are you a bitter woman who is pissed off that nowadays those sneaky skills that have been "honed over centuries" are being rendered all but worthless by other "empowered women" who are willing to give it up for the money without pretense?

    In my view, it has always been alright for men and women both to do exactly what they want, within reason. That's what freedom is all about Viv.
     
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    They are just women practicing "skills honed over centuries" allowing a pitiful few of the ever downtrodden women to afford themselves an happy life....LOL.....

    Leona Helmsley comes to mind...
     
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    I agree......

    A friend told me about this gal she knew who got 3 husbands in a rather 'unique' way...... when she was husbandless and wanted another one, she went thru the obituary column and checked off the men who were left widowers in her age bracket. Drove by his house to see what kind of home he had. If she liked what she saw, she showed up at his door w/a casserole in her hands and a big lie in her mouth..... saying that she was out of town when "Jane" passed away and if the obit mentioned charities, clubs, etc the deceased belonged to, well she was part of the club in case he wondered how she knew his wife or she met her thru mutual women friends.....

    Then within time, she moved in for the kill and eventually got the lonely guy to marry her. She got 3 husbands that way - IIRC, 2 died and one she divorced. She didn't necessarily end up wealthy, but certainly financially comfortable......

    When Shirley told me about her, I just sat there w/my mouth open - lol! Had never heard of that kind of ploy b/f to snare a husband.....

    Whoever would have thunk it? Well, that female did.... that's one devious mind......
     
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    Oh poor little men, let the small head think for the big head. What a shame.
     
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    What like actors or singers? Or gold diggers? It goes both ways, why only mention women?

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