Are women who use their sexuality for personal gain any better than street whores?

Ya, I raised the same point with him. Now we should work to avoid making sweeping generalization as he has done, and not to paint all people who frequent singles bars with the same brush, but I can't believe he doesn't realize how skewed the sample he has chosen is. I would never look for a woman in a singles bar. At least not for a relationship. There are so many other places that offer so much better possibilities. I suppose I am spoiled, because I am in New York, and this city often draws bright and successful women to it, so my sample may be skewed as well. However, I still met my girlfriend through my graduate program. If you aren't in graduate school, go to cafes and start up a chat. Go to starbucks and start up a chat. Go to a comedy show. Talk to a woman at work. And so on. However, if a person seriously looks for relationships in singles bars, I suppose it may turn out alright, but I would suggest that person doesn't smear all women when it doesn't!!


PS. I agree that oftentimes men do blame women when their many relationships and interactions with women don't turn out as they wanted, instead of assessing themselves. However, neither you nor I know Silicone, and I think it is unfair to make such broad psychological determinations based on a few conversations on the internet!!

 

The trouble w/so many couples is they rush into relationships to fast. They don't take the time to get to know each other. They are immediately in bed b/c they're 'in love' - no, they are 'in lust'.... and when that wears off, they wake up one day and find they really don't like to many things about the other and the relationship goes belly up......

There will always be gold-digging women and the guys need to take it slow and the same w/women who have $.... a lot of con artists out there and you need to recognize them, but it takes time......

Personally, for myself, the one thing I always look for in a man (and a women at the start of a possible friendship) is how they treat others, in person and behind their back - sounds silly? No, it's not - it tells you a lot about them as a person......

And something else that's important when you're dating someone or thinking you would want to - watch that person around the opposite sex when you're in a social gathering.... that'll tell you volumes.

When Tom & I had been dating a couple of months, we had gone to a social event. While visiting w/someone, I saw Tom across the room and suddenly this bleached blond zero in on him. It was interesting, not watching her flirting w/him - women like that come a dime a dozen - but watching his reaction b/c she was really hitting on him. Us women recognize women like her - 99% of men don't. They suck it up and love it when they're being hit on, to dumb to realize that she hits on every attractive guy. If he had lapped it up, he & I would have been done, but he didn't. A few minutes later, he wandered off to visit w/others....... I have no patience for stupid men.

One thing a person should never do is to lower their standards when looking for that special someone....

 

Good Lord ... this babble is not worth my time.....

 

Well...I did say women/men are 'usually' a certain way in singles bars...I did not say 'all of them'. Plus I typed those that frequent them on a 'regular basis'. Not someone that goes to them occasionally.

And I did say 'it sounds like...' in regards to SM...not 'he is'.


If you have decided to basically not respect billions of people sight unseen...that has GOT to skew your life and your personality.

Especially if these billions of people encompass the entire female population on Earth and you are heterosexual.

 

I've heard of some people, like a friend's SIL, joining eHarmony and met a nice guy only 50 miles away....... it's the chat rooms where I've heard of very few successful hook-ups - mostly horror stories.

The funniest one I ever read about a chat room was this gal, who lived in a small community in France, in her late 40's who got interested in a dude and he got interested in her, so all this hitting on each other dialogue was flying back and forth b/t them. He asked her to post a pix of her, so she did - a pix of a sexy 21 yr old - he fell in love ... I mean he fell in lust.... not sure if she asked for a pix of him, but anyway, they decided they just had to meet each other in person, so a day and time, which was sunset, at a beach, was set...

They both arrived, saw each other from a distance and started walking towards each other...... as they got closer, he stopped and shouted "MOM?!" She looked at him and shouted "JUNIOR?!" They were mother and son......

Mom was still married to Junior's dad and the story got around the small town and husband/dad heard it, but decided not to leave his trying-to-cheat wife... I laughed so hard at that story, I ached all over.........

IMO, the hearse-chasing female can't be compared to a dating service. What she did was downrite devious, lying to the widower about knowing his wife and I think taking advantage of a man who was vulnerable at the time, most likely being lonely..... that's a rotten way to find a husband.

 

My thoughts on the matter is that NO, they are no better than prostitutes.

 

Thank you,Mike........ she said she's a pilot and fiance a surgeon and she acted like she & he were being singled out. I think there's an ego problem here......

 

Ya, I think we are basically in agreement here!! It is entirely absurd to take a small sample size, especially one as skewed as singles bars, and extrapolate that onto 3 billion people in the world!! I know for a certainty that if Silicone opened himself up a bit, and sought other avenues of meeting women, he would quickly realize just how ridiculous his assumptions truly are!! There are some truly incredible women in this world, and I feel sorry for Silicone that he has closed himself off from the possibility of ever getting to truly connect with one of those women!!

 

*rolls eyes*


... barefoot and burka'ed!

 

Ehh. If men could do the same we would. Probably more often then women do.

 

if both parties want it, and they are being safe, why would it be immoral?

 

I think he was saying you don't need emotional attachment for sex. Which you dont really, just attraction.

 

A pilot and a surgeon? In that case she's not an exception to the rule, she's an example of the rule. A surgeon would be a higher status than a pilot easily. Now if her fiance was an orderly, that would be a different story.

 

You're right..... it was about one-nite flings.

 

I imagine you didn't mean to respond to me.

 

Oh dear ... you better brace yourself, dude........

 

Yes sorry, I meant hummingbird

 

Trouble is one or both parties are usually drunk and this is how unplanned pregnancies occur.
I just think they are immoral because IMO, sex should only occur if you in a committed relationship. Not necessarily married, but commited. I just think its wrong to meet a guy and then have sex with him on the first date.

 

Why blame women for trying to be good Capitalists in a Capitalist economy?

I would agree with you more, under truer forms of Socialism or Communism, where true love may be found without recourse to money.

 

Pay attention to what we were talking about.

I know what I said, regardless of alcohol consumption or not. It was not angry. Do not be a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). Generalizations are stupid in today's age.

Because I am the most generic person and do not fit the mold of finding someone more successful than I am. There are plenty of better women out there that do not either. Do not call it an exception to the rule, because the rule makes no sense in the first place.

We are both as successful in our respective fields. That hardly even mattered in the decision, considering we both met prior to becoming anything.

Status-wise? Get your mind off of "status." That means (*)(*)(*)(*). No one in their right mind should care about their "status" in society. What matters is that you are good at your job, your job is important to you, and that you make a difference. That is success in life.

Holy bull tits. I am not pissed. Not even in the slightest, so you cannot chalk that up as some victory for the day.

 

First of all, you do not know what I do as a pilot. Secondly, get off the status thing. You said success, not what society thinks my merit is. Stick to the same tune, kiddo.

 

What about men who do the same thing?

 

First, I don't think it matters what you do as a pilot. Unless you are a test pilot or an astronaut, you're not going to trump a surgeon.

Secondly, what I said was:

I don't think I switched up debate by using the word status since that is correlated with power. Frankly, I still don't see what you are arguing against. Although you and your fiance are both professionals, he trumps you in status and no doubt income.

The only reason I could see that you would have to dispute anything I'm saying would be if your fiance were an office clerk or garbage man. As it is, your relationship is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, so I don't really see what your issue is.

 

Your response is very mature (facetious remark). Let me get this correct, because I think it inappropriate that women or men should have to engage in behaviors that are less than admirable in order to excel, I am somehow a neanderthal. Yet, because you think it OK for people to lower themselves to behaviors that are of a lower standard and/or denegrading to themselves , you are the morally superior one.

As it has been stated time and again, "Reality is stranger than fiction."

 

While I do agree that women who have to lower themselves do it as survival mechanism, I personally think that the very fact of women having to behave in such a manner is a sad commentary on the society in which such behavior(s) is/are accepted. Treating women as objects instead of the diamonds and gems they are is shameful. We really should not put women under burden. I guess some people do not realize that a people can rise no higher than the women of said people.