I said Britain didn't deliver before the war which would have saved millions of Jews. During the war Britain prevented millions of Jews from moving to Palestine and thus doomed them to certain death and after the war Britain actively opposed the implementation of the balfour declaration, Britain probably the only western nation that didn't vote for the partition and now you here claim credit for Israel's existence. Lol
if you are so right, why don't you accept my bet? - - - Updated - - - True, there is a great deal of hatred here - all coming from the anti-American and Islamophobic right wing.
More anti British spewing without any substance, what you object now to the fact Britain did not get occupied! But you are still wrong, read the link I provided and educate yourself. You have not debunked one thing I have said because you have no evidence, not one piece of evidence in the entire thread from you! Hasbara schools are getting very lazy with their training. If you want to debate, provide evidence don't just spew! So apart from fighting Hitler, telling the world about concentration camps, providing the only safe haven in Europe, The Balfour agreement, the relief of Belsen what did the British ever do for the Jews?
Evidence, just more spewing, where is the evidence Britain prevented Millions of Jews from going to Palestine thus dooming them to certain death, where is your evidence for your spewing? Where is your evidence to support your spewing that Britain did not implement the Balfour agreement. Try to put your hatred of the British to one side for just a little while to give some evidence to back up your spewing. We abstained from the vote for partition, possibly because we were trying to be fair, possibly because we were sick of the Zionist terrorist attacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence Keep it coming Borat because with each spew you just show your lack of evidence and knowledge.
In your post # 168 you claimed that due to British resistance in 1940 helped save jews in occupied Europe. The statement was absurd, Jews in occupied Europe weren't saved, virtually all of them died. The population of the UK wasn't occupied of course so the British public including their Jewish citizens mostly survived. Do I have to explain simple things like this to you that when you choose to discuss occupied Europe you can't include the UK which wasn't occupied? Grow some common sense and take logics 101 class. And history 101 as well to remind you that the UK has very serious responsibility for the start of WW2 and that it was the British involvement in the middle east that turned the region into the bloody horrible mess it is today.
Sure, no problem. Read history and weep. Yet another betrayal, backstabbing and double-dealing by perfidious Albion http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/balfour-suez-britains-zionist-misadventure
Read the damm link, http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005687 it outlines how many Jews were left in Europe in 1945. I have no idea what logic 101 class is I didn't go to Hasbara school, but as I have told you before an English comprehensive. Yes the British were responsible for some of the mess in the Middle East, our collusion with the (very much a minority amongst Jews) Zionists in the 1914-1918 war and the Balfour Declaration was a terrible mess. We should never of acquiesced to it. But equally the Zionists must admit to the fact their nation was born in blood. You appear to wish to rewrite history so that Zionists except no responsibility and it was all the British. How about discussing the fact the Zionists did not and have not stuck to the Balfour Declaration. Again you spew forth about the British in WW2 without a shred of evidence, still not one bit of evidence to support your spewings. No evidence, no specifics, jest spewing again and again and again.
I see nobody is interested reading something of importance. I thought that video would be a hit. C'est la vie.... RiaRaeb and Borat are filling the pages!
I read your link, it proves you wrong, it confirmed my statement that the majority of jewish communities in occupied Europe were pretty much exterminated. Out of 3.5 million jews left in Europe after the war, more than 2 millions were in Russia. The Jewish population of Europe in 1933 was 9.5 million. And I am glad you agree that Britain is responsible for the mess that led to WW2 and for the horrible bloody mess in the middle east. I guess its about time for the Brits to acknowledge their war crimes, invasions, bombings, occupations and assassinations during the last couple of decades and start dealing with British criminals among the politicians and royal military, instead of desperately looking for a speck in the eye of a tiny brave nation surrounded by a sea of enemies and desperately fighting for a tiny piece (1/10th of what Balfour promised) of land they call home. PS of course I've provided a ton of evidence of the British betrayal, backstabbing, double-dealing and callousness between the Balfour declaration and the British rejection of the partition resolution. Your lame explanations and excuses don't negate the evidence provided.
From what I've seen in the US, American Jews are all for Iran "wiping Israel off the map"... because they are Gazi's(global socialist) first, and Jews second.
lol the best you have is this lame demagoguery? I said that virtually all jews in the occupied Europe were exterminated by the Nazis and the numbers prove me right and you wrong. Needless to say that the tiny fraction of Jews who survived the occupation owe absolutely nothing the Brits who contributed mightily to Hitler's rise to power and the start of the conflict but precious nothing to their liberation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ures-Belsen-released-70-years-liberation.html Yes look at the Jewish Brigade liberating Belsen, oh wait that's not the Jewish Brigade it the British. Maybe you think we should not of liberated them? Maybe you think they would of been safer with the Germans? Grow up Borat, you owe the British your life and Israel, learn to love it! Yes the British (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up in Palestine, there were so many stupid Christians who thought the Bible was a history book. Unfortunately it led to a bunch of racial supremacists creating Israel. The are only two groups who ever discussed the Final Solution, the Nazis and the Zionists! Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.” In his “Diaries”, page 19, Herzl stated “Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.” http://www.truetorahjews.org/antisemitism
And Jews fought for the liberation of Britain and the rest of Europe, so did Canadians and Americans and everyone else. The British were the major reason for Hitler's rise to power and the war and yet one of the smallest contributors to its successful end. The British contribution to the rescue of jews in the occupied Europe was miniscule at best and entirely coincidental, it was never among the top 500 British priorities. The Soviets and the US liberated the world from the Nazis, the British also participated, and so did jews and poles and French and lots of other nationalities. The allies liberated Europe including a tiny number of Jewish survivors and Britain was a tiny part of that alliance, totally dependent on American land lease in the first place, your attempts to claim British credit for the rescue of European jews and Israel's existence notwithstanding.
Yes, most U.S. Jews are left wing socialists. They don't give a rat's a$$ about Israel. It's very sad.
Actually, the British were probably the second largest contributor (behind the Soviet Union). They wrecked the Luftwaffe (in no small part due to Goring's incompetence), launched aerial raids against German cities and military targets, devised Operation Torch, devised Operation Avalanche, provided a base for Operation Overlord, and tied down Axis resources in Africa and the Middle East.
British policies were a major contributor for the Hitler's rise to power and the start of WWII. Britain betrayed all its allies and reneged on its international obligations. That being said when Britain was attacked it fought well, I have never denied that. But while the USSR or the US could have defeated Hitler on their own (it would have taken them much longer of course) Britain would have probably failed to defend its island, let alone win the war without the land lease. Nevertheless they did fight well and contribute to the defeat of the Nazism but the claims that Jews should somehow owe a debt of gratitude to the British is absurd. Millions of Jews fought the Nazis in Soviet, American, British and other armies and helped liberate the world and they don't demand or expect any special gratitude from any nation involved. Every nation contributed, the allies (including Russian, polish, british american, palestinian and other jews) liberated Europe including the tiny percentage of Jews that managed to survive. The Brits don't deserve any special thanks any more than any other allied nation/ethnicity. That they actively prevented Jewish immigration to the holy land from war torn Europe, vigorously enforcing their tiny quotas and sending Jews back to Europe to certain death is on the other hand condemnable.
None of those were members of her empire & dominion in 1939 beside India. Canada has been an independent country since the confederation in 1867. The queen is only a powerless figurehead kept for historical reason only. Australia got theirs in 1901. Canada has had its own armed force and own command since the confederation. We were in no obligation to follow the UK and in fact declared war on Germany one day later than the British. If the British wouldn't have fight it wouldn't have made any difference since the British got their asses handed to them on every front that they tried to fight by themselves. You were out gunned, out trained, out equipped and didn't amount to nothing until the US and other allies gave you men and equipments. Heck they wouldn't have been a Battle of Britain without outside help since you didn't have enough pilots available to fill the rotations. And I should add that you didn't have the food, fuel and other raw material by yourself either. Same goes for your navy which lacked escort vessel until FDR gave you some and Canada started producing a (*)(*)(*)(*) ton of them to the point that by the end of WW2 Canada had the 3rd biggest fleet in the world...
That bantam weight boxer analogy is nonsense imo. And when you speak of hate, then bear in kind the hate in the heart of Israel and the pain and suffering it has inflicted on untold numbers of helpless civilians in its strategy of extending land ownership and controlling water supplies etc., not to mention the immense human "collateral damage" in its various campaigns against Hezbollah etc. Each person should hold their own nation accountable when it steps out of line (and Israel has done plenty of stepping out in the past). I do so with mine and have no problem saying so. Those who reflect blind adherence to state propaganda and outright lies suggests a lack of critical thinking and problems forming objective judgements. "Neo conservative spin" is fairly widely accepted as outright cynical lies. That would be a reasonable definition, I think. As to the $150 billion, where is the evidence that the amount that Iran will receive is this sum? I've seen various estimates. US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew claims the sum if $55 billion and that of this $20 billion result from unfrozen Iranian assets already committed to infrastructure spending - with another $100 billion required to bring Iran's oil and gas business up to date. But to be perfectly honest I no more trust Obama and his Administration that I do Netanyahu and his Neo-con sponsors. Politicians lie for a living, and the living die in the process.
$150 billion? The guy who wrote that must have thought it was a reference to the $150+ billion Israel has gotten from the USA. As for lies, nobody does that more than do the neocons and their bigoted Islamophobic hatemongering supporters.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4699698,00.html I guess that settles the thread, Thanks to Anonimus who's cyber attacks made Israel a leading tech selling state. I expected abit more than 300 to be honest.
